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allin99

(894 posts)
80. i don't like having my personal activity obtained and stored...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jun 2013

when i am not a person of interest, and who's looking at it? who knows. fisa courts don't HAVE to give permission to view them. Is this the first time we found out that EVERYONE's activity have been dragnetted on an ongoing basis? that was news to me. It's a problem when the u.s. gov't is requiring telecommunications companies to hand over all of it. and getting up in arms about it now that finally people are paying attention, actually kinda works in both of our favors if we didn't like it in whatever scale we believed it was going on in the first place. infact, the cat that's out of the bag, that EVERYONE'S activity is being stored on an ongoing basis, let's find out exactly how many. But the admin is not willing to say. Now's the time to be upset about it and demand it. does that mean it's a scandal because people are demanding it right now? of course not, we just found out it's millions of us.

(Not sure how many people here believe that their phone calls are being monitored, i've seen maybe 2 people say that out of 100's. Well, unless you're calling someone out of the country, then it's questionable).

Firebaggers = Teabaggers BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #1
Is the NSA dragnetting millions of peoples phone data a bogus scandal? allin99 Jun 2013 #2
We've known they were doing phone data collection and archiving... gcomeau Jun 2013 #8
just a couple of questions regarding that... allin99 Jun 2013 #12
No they're not racist gcomeau Jun 2013 #16
okay, even though i disagree on... allin99 Jun 2013 #34
I didn't "already" know. tblue Jun 2013 #45
Don't agree lark Jun 2013 #151
The meme Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #97
So it's not a scandal, then? Is that what you're saying? Th1onein Jun 2013 #35
Sigh. gcomeau Jun 2013 #63
And, according to you, this program is legal because we have new laws, right? truebluegreen Jun 2013 #94
and are the laws legal? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #95
My point exactly. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #111
In other words... gcomeau Jun 2013 #119
*****AMEN!!!********** uponit7771 Jun 2013 #125
Oh puhleeze... truebluegreen Jun 2013 #136
They ARE doing warrantless wiretapping, by their own admission. Th1onein Jun 2013 #211
Are you certain of that? quakerboy Jun 2013 #224
^^^K&R^^^^ nt Progressive dog Jun 2013 #57
He signed it, he supports it, he owns it. Maven Jun 2013 #67
No, not same as Bush. gcomeau Jun 2013 #70
Yes, it's all been made "legal" now. Maven Jun 2013 #71
Performing the surveillance WITH A WARRANT gcomeau Jun 2013 #83
sorry but backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #113
Go ahead and be not cool with it. *I'M not cool with it. gcomeau Jun 2013 #117
no you're wrong backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #122
No, I'm not. gcomeau Jun 2013 #123
and here we see why our country is falling apart backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #127
Lack of basic reading comprehension? Yeah, could be. gcomeau Jun 2013 #131
insulting people really turns people to your PoV backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #146
You mean... gcomeau Jun 2013 #173
There is no need to get hung up on semantics. Whether we call it a "scandal" or something else it is totodeinhere Jun 2013 #141
Exactly. treestar Jun 2013 #158
You need to go back to the book.. Or "I dont think that word means what you think it means" quakerboy Jun 2013 #225
"Search everyone for anything" is still an illegal search. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #115
Which isn't being done. -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #118
Yes, it is. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #139
All of a sudden?...WTF? zeemike Jun 2013 #72
Congress has refused to allow the President to close Gitmo or Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #112
It is the same old good cop bad cop argument. zeemike Jun 2013 #132
So the problem is Obama didn't disovle Congress and become a beneficant dicator. n/t Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #169
No the problem is he did not use the bully pulpit zeemike Jun 2013 #178
So you think he could use the bully pulpit and sway Congress with public opinion? Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #182
Well tell me when Obama called for raising the taxes on the rich zeemike Jun 2013 #184
Here you go. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #188
Oh right I remember the Buffet rule zeemike Jun 2013 #192
The Republicans are not concerned with public opinion Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #223
He had a democratic congress for the first two years. zeemike Jun 2013 #233
Sorry but you are wrong. Really for only TWO MONTHS. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #238
Serious, serious props to you for your efforts in this thread Number23 Jun 2013 #212
He has not done one thing about the economy or joblessness duffyduff Jun 2013 #253
Yes we know that this has been going on. But some of us were naive enough to think that if we totodeinhere Jun 2013 #138
Yep. 'Tis true. This story was merely confirmation of what we knew already... Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #222
What if you supported Obama in order to change this policy? n/t eridani Jun 2013 #240
the initial "scandal" was obama voting to let the telecom companies off the hook. tomp Jun 2013 #246
define phone data snooper2 Jun 2013 #20
what number you are calling, when and for how long. allin99 Jun 2013 #39
thank you snooper2 Jun 2013 #42
saved in code or not, the gov't is obtaining, and storing all of your phone activity. allin99 Jun 2013 #60
what do you mean saved in code? snooper2 Jun 2013 #62
someone has to retreive that information... allin99 Jun 2013 #91
that's not heaven05 Jun 2013 #28
even *if* people were "buying into scandal"... allin99 Jun 2013 #55
racism heaven05 Jun 2013 #75
give obama a chance to make changes to not only this program... allin99 Jun 2013 #86
i agree heaven05 Jun 2013 #96
But you see if you thorugh it in that bag with the horseshit. zeemike Jun 2013 #82
you can have 1 relevant issue... allin99 Jun 2013 #89
Yes zeemike Jun 2013 #99
Is the NSA dragnetting millions of peoples phone data a bogus scandal? The CCC Jun 2013 #41
Yes, it was a bogus scandal. pnwmom Jun 2013 #58
i don't like having my personal activity obtained and stored... allin99 Jun 2013 #80
Yes. It's a legal question. treestar Jun 2013 #155
and the loopholes in the law could create "scandals" for decades. allin99 Jun 2013 #157
To me it's not scandalous unless there is no legal question open treestar Jun 2013 #168
it's not about legal illegal, we know obama didn't do anything illegal... allin99 Jun 2013 #170
that system was there from inception of the FISA treestar Jun 2013 #171
"I don't think them having access to the metadata is as scary as some here find it to be" ... allin99 Jun 2013 #172
So if I know that you called a suicide hotline but didn't listen to the call-- eridani Jun 2013 #241
i don't like him because he's a politician datasuspect Jun 2013 #3
+1. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #15
Could you please point out one instance of your having criticized the President cali Jun 2013 #4
The OP is the second post I have seen today where someone surprised me by posting that they rhett o rick Jun 2013 #17
well, maybe the author has been critical of the President, but I can't find cali Jun 2013 #36
Cali, why don't you search my journal from DU v. 2. And btw, whether I do or don't post my criticism KittyWampus Jun 2013 #218
I noticed that too Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #47
I've never seen one, either. /nt Marr Jun 2013 #22
this OP is by a diehard BOGer quinnox Jun 2013 #48
what is bog? allin99 Jun 2013 #93
Barrack Obama Group. Marr Jun 2013 #124
should be "groupie", lol. allin99 Jun 2013 #133
Jury results. Inkfreak Jun 2013 #163
you can't even spell the President's name correctly. I MAY have been in the BOG years ago in DU v.2 KittyWampus Jun 2013 #221
I merely described what the BOG is. Or rather was, when it was relevant. Marr Jun 2013 #226
"you can't even spell the President's name correctly" RetroLounge Jun 2013 #229
Been here far longer than you have and I have no fucking idea what BOGer is. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #220
Been here longer than you have. Try searching my journal on DU2. And whether I post criticisms on DU KittyWampus Jun 2013 #219
I've been here since 2001. Marr Jun 2013 #227
I'm waiting, too Aerows Jun 2013 #30
You know what Cali, I have been here since DU v.1. On DU v. 2 I had issues with his economic team KittyWampus Jun 2013 #217
Agree. ananda Jun 2013 #5
if it's "disrepectful" toward other dems is that racism? allin99 Jun 2013 #9
Valid criticism Aerows Jun 2013 #24
Who is going to let us know the "scandals" are "bogus"? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #6
We will. We are BOG. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #37
The only post with 100% truth I've seen from a BOrG BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #81
Everyone can decide themselves, after waiting a few days to see how the truth shakes out. pnwmom Jun 2013 #66
Who has been "jumping at Republican bait."? In the last couple of days, people have rhett o rick Jun 2013 #78
Speculation after a death is pointless till the facts come in. pnwmom Jun 2013 #110
Speculation is never pointless. It would be good if we had a button to push rhett o rick Jun 2013 #145
Watch FOX news for 15 minutes then get back to us on that one AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #153
If you are trying to make a point, I guess I miss it. You dont believe in speculation? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #159
Whipping up suspicion about Obama on every front imaginable is what Fox specializes in. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #187
You just have to make me guess what the point is. I dont have a clue what this post and post 153 rhett o rick Jun 2013 #194
watch FOX news for 15 minutes AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #198
Your point? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #206
See post #145 AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #236
Here's the deal. I am not going on a post hunt and try to figure out your point. You either have a rhett o rick Jun 2013 #239
In the context of all the fake scandals we've had since Benghazi, pnwmom Jun 2013 #199
I wont let Fox dictate whether I will speculate or not. I am free to speculate and I can tell the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #207
Like all of that stuff Greenwald said about the President lying about the NSA program last week. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #108
You have laid your finger on a subsidiary but not insignificant concern: we have HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #135
K & R. n/t FSogol Jun 2013 #7
The NSA is not a bogus scandal. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #10
It seems to me Aerows Jun 2013 #18
Except that, unfortunately, I don't know that the folks pushing the racism label Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #31
I was against it under Bush Aerows Jun 2013 #32
Is esalated drone warfare bogus? Social security cuts? Civil rights for gays? The Link Jun 2013 #11
killing a u.s. citizen without due process? a brown... allin99 Jun 2013 #235
Yet another Meta thread. n/t demmiblue Jun 2013 #13
This entire board Aerows Jun 2013 #14
It's more than one thing he has done against voters who believed what he said. L0oniX Jun 2013 #40
It's more than one thing Aerows Jun 2013 #50
That is it to a T. morningfog Jun 2013 #59
YOU'RE an example of a reasonable Obama CRITIC? Pardon me, but... Marr Jun 2013 #19
so because you think PRISM is a bogus scandal that means I have to agree with you or I'm an Obama liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #21
Who posts things from Breitbart? progressoid Jun 2013 #23
Here, reworded from breitbart Progressive dog Jun 2013 #101
Looks like that's from The Atlantic. progressoid Jun 2013 #121
try Breitbart they've got it too Progressive dog Jun 2013 #130
So does USA Today and CNN progressoid Jun 2013 #149
I call bullshit mick063 Jun 2013 #25
It may be irritating BainsBane Jun 2013 #26
I know. Take that Tom Tomorrow for example. He's totally "bought into" the NSA "bogus scandal". Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #27
How about using Rasmussen polling to smear the President? msanthrope Jun 2013 #29
I dont know what to make of this OP. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #33
You might be a worshipper zombie if you never agree with legit criticisms. L0oniX Jun 2013 #38
Holy Cow Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #43
You might be an ignorant asshole whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #44
+100 RetroLounge Jun 2013 #231
Is pointing out that Obama's nominee for FBI Director, James Comey, signed HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #46
Hit and Run??? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #49
This tripe is indefensible stupidity. I don't blame them for running. morningfog Jun 2013 #53
makes you wonder then Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #87
Probably just flame bait, with hopes of stifling dissent. Who knows? morningfog Jun 2013 #88
Here is how this all went down, as far as I can tell: demmiblue Jun 2013 #126
Perfect analysis. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #197
You know why threads like this are helpful? PDittie Jun 2013 #51
Oh my god. Give it a fucking rest.This racist under every rock bullshit morningfog Jun 2013 #52
+100. n/t Skip Intro Jun 2013 #56
Nope. None of that demonstrates racism. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #54
I just take issues with liberals who claim that by virtue of them being liberal, they can't Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #61
I don't think it's fair to 'call' anyone a racist on DU. randome Jun 2013 #68
I"M NOT CALLING ANYONE RACIST! I'm saying that I've SEEN racism here on DU. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #74
I wasn't saying you were. I was talking about all the threads going up on the subject. randome Jun 2013 #76
It is often difficult to provide evidence of subconscious racism. People think that only Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #105
I think subconscious racism is a HUGE issue. I believe that's what we're referring to here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #140
True One of the 99 Jun 2013 #73
You said: "they couldn't handle a woman or minority who was an equal"... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #77
does that mean I'm not allowed to criticize Hillary either? Come on. Whatever happened to liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #92
Again, it's not about *legitimate* criticisms at all. Sigh... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #102
well I would guess we probably disagree about what legitimate means. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #116
I never stated that the NSA scandal is bogus. Where did I write that? You must be responding to Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #142
I'm sure you would agree however that bona fide liberals are much less likely to be totodeinhere Jun 2013 #148
I agree that EVERYONE is far less likely to be racists than the Teabaggers. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #176
Disingenuous post that starts with a big lie ("I certainly do") Maven Jun 2013 #64
I'm a black man pissed off about the NSA spying. Apophis Jun 2013 #65
Absolutely not. The OP is not referring to legitimate criticisms of the president. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #79
What?!? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #84
Sounds to me like an opinion. Why not debate that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #103
The OP is attacking a strawman AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #109
Yep, the problem is that it's hard to find legitimate ones posted here treestar Jun 2013 #160
LOL, great point!! I guess the OP thinks you are a black racist. Rare I admit. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #128
ditto...black female who is critical of politicians noiretextatique Jun 2013 #147
tritto, another black female that is tired of a bunch of young white people... allin99 Jun 2013 #237
it's absolutely ridiculous noiretextatique Jun 2013 #256
that would make you self loathing.. frylock Jun 2013 #179
There are definitely Obama haters here but that doesn't mean their racists One of the 99 Jun 2013 #69
I don't know why people keep talking about the "extreme left" truebluegreen Jun 2013 #107
I never said anything about communists. One of the 99 Jun 2013 #174
as is conflating FDR dems with the "extreme left" frylock Jun 2013 #180
Very true, and thank you. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #183
I wasn't One of the 99 Jun 2013 #185
you may not have, but the OP certainly has.. frylock Jun 2013 #189
So reply to them One of the 99 Jun 2013 #195
Communists ARE the extreme left. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #181
And I never said a word about communists One of the 99 Jun 2013 #186
Quoting you, "There are definitely Obama haters here.... truebluegreen Jun 2013 #191
Again you dishonestly put words in my mouth. One of the 99 Jun 2013 #196
No, dear, the dictionary does that. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #200
Nice try! One of the 99 Jun 2013 #204
Simple test number two. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #85
I have HUGE issues obama2terms Jun 2013 #90
utter bullshit Enrique Jun 2013 #98
I don't think real liberals are posting stuff from Breitbart. Cleita Jun 2013 #100
You left one out AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #104
Pathetic OP. Stinkin' up he joint. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #106
And you might be racist for blanket accusations of racism AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #114
Racism? flying rabbit Jun 2013 #120
That's not "racist". It's stupid.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #129
The only RW connection I've observed... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #134
Thanks for posting this, Kitty. Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 #143
bull...shit noiretextatique Jun 2013 #144
+ Sissyk Jun 2013 #166
indeed, Sissyk...i just got an email from Hatewatch noiretextatique Jun 2013 #177
Boolean logic might be helpful here Android3.14 Jun 2013 #150
So now the determination of our opinions on race Savannahmann Jun 2013 #152
Well said treestar Jun 2013 #154
Yep. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #165
What scandals? I have yet to see a single example of the Benghazi crap or the IRS crap-- eridani Jun 2013 #243
It's not a scandal; it's a legal issue treestar Jun 2013 #249
Yes, a law just like Citizens United eridani Jun 2013 #251
Citizens United is the law right now treestar Jun 2013 #254
Obama is an undercover Republican, limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #156
Obama's been undercover for 5 years? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #161
Were criticisms of Clinton bombing Kosovo or pushing NAFTA 'racist'? Matariki Jun 2013 #162
K&R rury Jun 2013 #164
Scandal meanit Jun 2013 #167
& No rec's from any gungeoneers I recognize Kolesar Jun 2013 #175
So only gungeoneers think the OP is bull shit? hack89 Jun 2013 #190
Is it possible to dislike the Obama Administration and not be a racist? (nt) nessa Jun 2013 #193
The o.p. just answered yes to that question. Reading "comprehension" is fundamental. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #201
And WHO determines what is or isn't a "bogus scandal"? bvar22 Jun 2013 #202
Most Obama criticisms ARE RW Obama smears nt karmalk Jun 2013 #203
most criticism of "obama criticisms" is utter stinking bullcrap... tomp Jun 2013 #247
ps: what just occurred to me... tomp Jun 2013 #248
Got to watch it when someone posts a source from a Repuke site. Rex Jun 2013 #205
Racisim as a joke Piasladic Jun 2013 #208
I'll post my concerns, irregardless of whether some Republican somewhere wrote it first or not. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #209
With BROAD NET like yours...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #210
My ideas about society, politics, and government cheapdate Jun 2013 #213
So to turn your last point around on you: JoeyT Jun 2013 #214
Who would assume that? It's obviously false. cheapdate Jun 2013 #216
The person who did that "Berlin then and now" thread should be laughed off the board Number23 Jun 2013 #215
You're so right... Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #234
Oh for frack's sake. Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #228
Joy Reid said this on Hardball (I'm paraphrasing) BrainMann1 Jun 2013 #230
I see. You don't consider reinstating New Deal legislation as "something to do"? eridani Jun 2013 #244
You might be an idiot RetroLounge Jun 2013 #232
you are truly on one desperate roll tonight. that's ok though, i find it quite entertaining! boilerbabe Jun 2013 #242
This is a mess. sibelian Jun 2013 #245
These "you're a racist if" threads sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #250
Oh, for Pete's sake. duffyduff Jun 2013 #252
I wish I had your special insight into other people's inner motivations. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #255
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