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In reply to the discussion: Revealed: the top secret rules that allow NSA to use US data without a warrant [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)105. WaPo and the NYT:
WaPo: New documents reveal parameters of NSAs secret surveillance programs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058091
NYT: Documents Detail N.S.A. Surveillance Rules
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058210
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058091
NYT: Documents Detail N.S.A. Surveillance Rules
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023058210
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Catherina
Jun 2013
OP
That depends on your interpretation of 3(b)(4), 5(2) and 6(b)(8) of the document.
Pholus
Jun 2013
#145
Every attorney who gives a shit about his or her ethical obligations to clients should
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#146
this is _it_ there is no escaping this now, this is willful misinterpretation of the intent
Monkie
Jun 2013
#12
And, I guess, some of the analysts work for Booz Allen which I hear is owned by the Carlyle
byeya
Jun 2013
#3
You nailed that part of it. We are paying for all of this and Bushco makes the profit n/t
Catherina
Jun 2013
#4
Or where John Edwards was going to meet his mistress, and Ellitiot Spitzer, and and and
Catherina
Jun 2013
#11
I've decided to look on the bright side. Soviet jokes *were* falling out of fashion.
Pholus
Jun 2013
#8
Only two hours? The CIA advisor probably said, "Let's wrap this up." That always works with a mummy.
randome
Jun 2013
#20
so you two doing the classic derailment or you actually going to say anything on topic?
Monkie
Jun 2013
#25
because 3 of the points make a circular argument, breaking the seeming intent of the law
Monkie
Jun 2013
#9
data/content from a US machine, im sorry, if you cant see this there just is no hope for you
Monkie
Jun 2013
#19
i never used the word bullshit, or called constitutional lawyers with harvard education a joke
Monkie
Jun 2013
#31
The domestic communication section in the doc states that inadvertent collections are
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#21
Well then the Guardian needs to produce some FBI docs to back up their claims of abuse.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#28
The Guardian doesn't seem to be in the business of producing anything concrete
railsback
Jun 2013
#40
With their painfully long walls of text to beat their average readers into agreement.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#46
i can relate to that, for me its not the personal attacks, its the casual racism and
Monkie
Jun 2013
#73
Have any Military Intel Lawyers arrived yet? They're all over twitter blowing a gasket
Catherina
Jun 2013
#68
we had/have a pretend lawyer here, not sure if they were intel or not, stupid yes
Monkie
Jun 2013
#72
the bbc is ignoring this too, so similar, but without advertising or captain crunch
Monkie
Jun 2013
#107
No kidding. If it wasn't a Guardian article, I'd suspect that the NSA purposely leaked those to
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#54
a day ago it was, we never target americans by accident to, oh well, we guess and go by a 51% chance
Monkie
Jun 2013
#92
This needs to be its own OP, imo. Very powerful stuff you've written here and it
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#152
Yeah, I saw it and am glad he made it an OP. Thanks for the heads-up! - nt
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#186
"heaviest users of PGP-encrypted email are lawyers handling confidential, privileged attorney-client
Catherina
Jun 2013
#117
"exceptionally grave damage" v "serious damage" if made public and means of collection
Catherina
Jun 2013
#93
If they're contacting overseas they're fair game, even if a reasonable suspicion.
Catherina
Jun 2013
#116
No, I am not a racist hater. I am a self-hating Black hater. Whatever the fuck that is
Catherina
Jun 2013
#129
You mean like the unravelling of OWS? Lol! When you make predictions like this I
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#161
no worries, and yes it was pretty harsh, but you arent being called a racist either?
Monkie
Jun 2013
#170
Inadvertently! Well, that covers a lot. It gives a perfect excuse to those who are caught
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#159
Not to worry, soon they won't have to hide anything anymore. With some on the 'left' now joining the
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#174
Is "Inadvertantly" like "Collateral Damage"? "Unfortunate Civilan Deaths"? "Acts of God"?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#172