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shanti

(21,670 posts)
131. That's some sick shit
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jun 2013

Plain and simple. How dare you call people out of their name for having the temerity to criticize the presidency...

If it's not racism, then what is it? [View all] Drunken Irishman Jun 2013 OP
Well, that's certainly a lot of things people seem to disagree with Obama about. sibelian Jun 2013 #1
I have criticized 840high Jun 2013 #164
It takes a thicker skin than ever to be on the DU. But it's still my favorite site. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #2
+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #80
legitimate criticism of obama and his policies is neither "hater" nor "racist". Oddly enough msongs Jun 2013 #3
Some posters ONLY post criticism. Ever. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #27
Some defend everything he does. No different. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #43
Then if one side can do it why can't the other? treestar Jun 2013 #176
The difference is that the DU people complaining vote for and... Logical Jun 2013 #192
Some posters only post love Coccydynia Jun 2013 #75
Some posters still like their spoon. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #181
The threads get bolloxed by the same old assclowns piling on Kolesar Jun 2013 #168
Spoons. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #183
So what? Shouldn't we focus on the problems? morningfog Jun 2013 #193
And some only post positives Ter Jun 2013 #300
The complaints go well beyond legitimate criticism jeff47 Jun 2013 #55
I've never seen anyone say those "not legitimate" things. vi5 Jun 2013 #64
Then you aren't looking at many threads jeff47 Jun 2013 #67
I've seen those. Still doesn't address the rest. vi5 Jun 2013 #74
I don't recall seeing that level of animosity, either. enlightenment Jun 2013 #232
I agree Progressive dog Jun 2013 #288
Yep. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #138
Thank you for your thoughtful OP ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #4
Thank you. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #5
Legitimate criticisms. That's what. Quantess Jun 2013 #6
It's the old "Gotta work twice as hard to get half the credit" thing going on. MADem Jun 2013 #7
Ding ding fucking ding. redqueen Jun 2013 #15
lol MADem, sometimes I SWEAR you must be black. At least a little bit on the inside Number23 Jun 2013 #25
Yeah! JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #83
I am a little bit of everything--a "Heinz 57" as my Granny would say. MADem Jun 2013 #140
This "almost 50" white guy agrees. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #108
+1 MADem Jun 2013 #130
I wish I could upvote your comment 1000 times. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #157
Thanks. At times I wish more of us would call Bullshit on this stuff. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #163
I'm not real happy with the President pscot Jun 2013 #186
It might have something to do with the tone and frequency of the attacks. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #201
I don't disagree pscot Jun 2013 #277
This. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #148
Exactly. You said what I was trying to think of. nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #149
Yes indeed. eom treestar Jun 2013 #177
+∞² Scootaloo Jun 2013 #236
No doubt it is a different standard. reusrename Jun 2013 #268
There were/are a couple of rapists here on DU, so why would we be surprised if there are racists? n/ Whisp Jun 2013 #8
Could it be about the NSA? And spying of Americans? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #9
a single explanation won't suffice for two very different phenomena carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #10
so, after an absence you just couldn't resist when you saw the "they must be racists!" OP quinnox Jun 2013 #11
Exactly, totally spur of the moment Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #18
I think there are a couple of problems re. Obama and his opponents here BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #12
I think we are often on opposite "sides" Vanje Jun 2013 #205
Me too BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #212
Ask Cornel West, Harry Belafonte, Tavis Smiley, etc. progressoid Jun 2013 #13
I can't speak for Belafonte PragmaticLiberal Jun 2013 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2013 #114
You Can't Speak For West Or Smiley Either HangOnKids Jun 2013 #118
So NOT racism then. progressoid Jun 2013 #187
I don't believe all of the criticism is justified. PragmaticLiberal Jun 2013 #273
Etc? Etc. like Skip Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Eric Dyson, Al Sharpton, Tom Joyner MADem Jun 2013 #167
Right. And Melissa Harris Perry has also criticized the President... progressoid Jun 2013 #175
Criticism is one thing; constant, nitpicking beatdowns are another. MADem Jun 2013 #203
there's no such big mystery as you pretend. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #14
If Hillary was president, it would presumably be sexism (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #16
That and maybe ageism Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #19
I was saving ageism in case Biden is our next president (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #20
I think it could well be worse in that case. treestar Jun 2013 #178
Welcome back Drunken Irishman Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #17
just look at the Trayvon Martin Case, how can anyone who is truly liberal JI7 Jun 2013 #21
Comparing Travon Martin to President Obama? zeemike Jun 2013 #37
look at the outrage when Obama said if he had a son he would look like Trayvon JI7 Jun 2013 #38
outrage on DU? where? cali Jun 2013 #40
one i remember is some shit from emilyg JI7 Jun 2013 #44
Oh .Correct me if I'm wrong Vanje Jun 2013 #209
I saw no outrage here....and I was here then. zeemike Jun 2013 #59
since your op is, at least to some degree, a response to mine, I'd like to respond cali Jun 2013 #22
A brave, intelligent and excellent post. Thanks for posting it Number23 Jun 2013 #23
The OP asks "What is the driving force behind the constant criticism of Obama" Maedhros Jun 2013 #24
+1 OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #229
And this is why we need you here, DI. babylonsister Jun 2013 #26
The constant critics who never give Obama credit are ratfuckers, Greens, Cynics or ideologues. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #28
I think the word you're looking for is... sibelian Jun 2013 #31
Give him credit for what? leftstreet Jun 2013 #78
Not being Bush, I think. sibelian Jun 2013 #82
I agree. I'm familiar with right wing hatred of Obama treestar Jun 2013 #188
Yes everyone knows disagreement with policy = Racism ileus Jun 2013 #29
''Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.'' DeSwiss Jun 2013 #30
The Constitution was written by racists, you know! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #34
I suppose the fact that my 3/5 of a person great-grandfather and great grandmother were slaves..... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #35
Being counted as 3/5s wasn't even the worst thing the Constitution inflicted on your ancestors MNBrewer Jun 2013 #42
First, I forgave myself. Then I forgave everyone else, long ago. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #52
Actually, it was treestar Jun 2013 #182
We're a better country than we were back then! Vanje Jun 2013 #214
Yes, don't you know if you complain about any of these things you are a racist? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #233
''Argumentum magnifica....'' DeSwiss Jun 2013 #243
I didn't read your whole post, but your characterization of criticism as MNBrewer Jun 2013 #32
Gee, if it's irrational to attack chained cpi, potential approval of the keystone pipeline, etc, etc stupidicus Jun 2013 #33
It's ProSense Jun 2013 #36
so Pro, are you saying that a lot of the cali Jun 2013 #39
Wait, ProSense Jun 2013 #48
absolution? huh? from the likes of YOU? cali Jun 2013 #84
You should be so lucky. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #109
Well, Prosense, I guess I think whatever you say I think. sibelian Jun 2013 #47
Consider being courteous and not hijacking this thread with your nonsense. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #49
lol. cali Jun 2013 #85
. ProSense Jun 2013 #102
Sweet Baby Jesus. Number23 Jun 2013 #145
ouch Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #156
cali would you please log off for an hour? ucrdem Jun 2013 #106
no cali Jun 2013 #153
Do you know what? sibelian Jun 2013 #95
Do you know what else? ucrdem Jun 2013 #101
Nah, she's an issue bunny. sibelian Jun 2013 #117
I can't believe what I'm reading. ucrdem Jun 2013 #126
this is how bad it is, it's not enough to criticize Obama , they go after anyone who likes him JI7 Jun 2013 #135
Prosense could enter a thread and say "I agree." That's it. And have 12 Number23 Jun 2013 #144
Prosense is the same poster that links JW2020 Jun 2013 #271
She links to her own threads because they often have links to things like, you know ARTICLES Number23 Jun 2013 #291
you'd actually need to have been around a little longer cali Jun 2013 #155
sputter G_j Jun 2013 #53
Nicely articulated. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #99
Your problem is that you do not think someone can be extremely disappointed in Obama.... Logical Jun 2013 #57
Is it because I'm black? ProSense Jun 2013 #62
I swear you have an issue where you are so attached or fascinated with Obama that any complaint... Logical Jun 2013 #68
Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #70
Well Miss paranoid....... Logical Jun 2013 #93
Just stop. This is bad form and beneath DU. ucrdem Jun 2013 #98
What are you talking about? I defended her BS. If you want to defend her then do it. Otherwise.... Logical Jun 2013 #103
What's beneath DU is letting OPs like this one -- OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #240
"Here are the contents of the only four PMs I have ever sent you." ProSense Jun 2013 #100
Yes, Yikes when I have to tell you 10 times to quit stalking me. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #105
LOL! ProSense Jun 2013 #111
Way weird Kolesar Jun 2013 #150
those pms make you look bad JI7 Jun 2013 #154
Prosense has never attacked people for the criticism treestar Jun 2013 #195
You have got to be kidding me! Fearless Jun 2013 #91
"You have nothing to do with it AT ALL." ProSense Jun 2013 #94
I'll rephrase... Fearless Jun 2013 #104
Oh please, ProSense Jun 2013 #115
I responded to your statement that this is racism Fearless Jun 2013 #139
Will you just stop. ucrdem Jun 2013 #97
I haven't said anything insensitive. Fearless Jun 2013 #107
If that's what you think then this thread is for you ucrdem Jun 2013 #113
Saying something that isn't racism isn't racism Fearless Jun 2013 #134
And I would say it is. ucrdem Jun 2013 #142
To be sure Fearless Jun 2013 #146
No. It's not because you're black. sibelian Jun 2013 #110
Will you please just stop. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #112
Thanks ProSense, once again you've hit the nail on the head ucrdem Jun 2013 #92
Wow, I get it now. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #120
Good. Then you know it's time to leave this thread. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #124
Funny you never told Prosense to "quit". n-t Logical Jun 2013 #127
ProSense never lost her marbles. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #129
LOL.....you are just looking silly now..... Logical Jun 2013 #137
Fine you made your point, now just skedaddle will ya? nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #143
To be honest, I didn't know Prosense was black until that post. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #160
No one on the DU, I hope, cares what color any of us are. Maybe I am naive. But I have never... Logical Jun 2013 #166
Racist Democrats...really? That's it? No snips? Safetykitten Jun 2013 #242
it's called principle and it's called being consistent.. frylock Jun 2013 #41
That does not cover the wide ranging attacks on the President by your party* Kolesar Jun 2013 #158
+1 A cogent and succinct argument. Kudos. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #161
+1000 OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #246
Outstanding post, DI Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #45
Thank you very much, Drunken Irishman MrScorpio Jun 2013 #46
Did it not occur to you many DUers object to being spied upon? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #50
CONGRESS needs to change the law or the courts need to rule that Skidmore Jun 2013 #269
To be sure Congress needs to step up and be responsible for oversight. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #280
A consistent moral compass. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #51
Well said DI warrior1 Jun 2013 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #56
It's called Skidmore Jun 2013 #63
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #202
Well this "racist voted for Obama twice and in the primary zeemike Jun 2013 #58
If you're only in your 20's then you don't remember Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #60
Calling criticism of government policy "racism" is simpleminded LittleBlue Jun 2013 #61
It was inferred that I was a racist for making a similar comment during the 2012 election Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #257
What a load of BS vi5 Jun 2013 #65
Fuckin do it! Iggo Jun 2013 #66
If you want to know why moderates and uninformed don't take JoeyT Jun 2013 #69
Having read through the Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #71
Wow, that is outstanding. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #73
Ah my dear DI annabanana Jun 2013 #76
+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #133
A lot of people here didn't start paying attention to politics until Bush... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #77
There was no DU before Bush. Vanje Jun 2013 #194
Some of us were actually into politics before this place existed. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #200
YAwn L0oniX Jun 2013 #79
DADT was not his success Fearless Jun 2013 #81
OP is only defending O'Bama because he's Irish. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #86
Its racism pure and simple madokie Jun 2013 #87
How did Obama get elected? leftstreet Jun 2013 #89
Not all people are racist madokie Jun 2013 #119
Yeah, yeah, just the ones who criticize his policies n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #125
So you think the DUers who complain about Obama are racists? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #122
Two days ago I would have disagreed. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #128
That's some sick shit shanti Jun 2013 #131
The dorks of DU were attacking Pelosi in the same manner before President Obama took office. Kolesar Jun 2013 #165
"Free enterprise"? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #251
Favorite group: Creative Speculation, Kolesar Jun 2013 #267
WTF is that supposed to mean? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #270
Is that so? DeSwiss Jun 2013 #250
Very dashing portrait, DeSwiss! Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #263
I disagree Marrah_G Jun 2013 #88
With one sentence, you nailed the snake's skin to a wall bluestate10 Jun 2013 #90
This post is a work of art JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #96
It is all the apologists have left, and it's popping up regularly now. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #116
An extraordinarily well thought-out post BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #121
It's a natural reaction against gov lying and spying usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #123
Welp, I think that cleared up any doubts. ucrdem Jun 2013 #132
In a democracy it is the reponsiibility of the people to hold its public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #136
Passionate disagreement and/or disillusionment with policy. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #141
The last thing to bring up is Obama on gay civil rights. The Link Jun 2013 #147
I'm going to have to take issue with your comment. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #170
He went where the money and the votes were. He didn't lead. The Link Jun 2013 #173
Say what? He campaigned on homophobia? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #180
He used well known, distinguished homophobes to campaign for him. The Link Jun 2013 #185
And the other candidate I mentioned? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #196
But he was a homophobe...until last year. The Link Jun 2013 #198
That's what I'd call a great example of the perfect being the enemy of the good. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #206
DI, I was one of those young people who saw hope in Obama back in 2008. alp227 Jun 2013 #151
Welcome back, Drunken Irishman BainsBane Jun 2013 #152
Aliens? DirkGently Jun 2013 #159
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #162
My point is absolutely echoed in many replies to this post... Drunken Irishman Jun 2013 #169
Agreed. It does seem that some folks pounce on any and everything to tear down Obama. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #174
Those who engage in irrational attacks know damned well you weren't talking about criticism alone. redqueen Jun 2013 #225
Second exception of the day nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #230
Who are you to determine which criticisms are "irrational" and which are not? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #254
Simple-minded B.S. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #171
Well for one thing FAKING accusations of racism are not going to do any good, NOBODY believes that - Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #172
You foils are like Republicans everywhere: experts on Benghazi, birth certificates, Florida recount Kolesar Jun 2013 #179
Even after DADT passed, they started saying he won't sign it! treestar Jun 2013 #184
'I could go on' NO SHIT! 3,468 words in 35 paragraphs?!?!? markiv Jun 2013 #189
for comparison, the US Constitution is 4,501 words markiv Jun 2013 #210
Using a lot of words to make a dumb argument Union Scribe Jun 2013 #190
Wrong... Drunken Irishman Jun 2013 #199
Oh please Union Scribe Jun 2013 #204
Just admit it, much of the criticism on DU is irrational... Drunken Irishman Jun 2013 #211
"corporatist" is not irrational. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #215
Yeah, it kinda is. Drunken Irishman Jun 2013 #216
"socialist" wouldn't be offensive either Union Scribe Jun 2013 #217
Instead of using throw away words, why not substance? Drunken Irishman Jun 2013 #219
To end this on a positive note I agree with you that Union Scribe Jun 2013 #220
Well said. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #255
You're really going to sit there and take shots at the LGBT community. Prism Jun 2013 #191
Being gay myself, I'm perplexed by the disdain shown the president... Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #222
I can speak only for myself. Prism Jun 2013 #223
Your reply is eloquent and well-stated, but I can't share in the being sour on him. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #241
Well said Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #275
Freaking sickest little tirade in a long time. Safetykitten Jun 2013 #239
It is a centrist who embraced or acquiesced to too morningfog Jun 2013 #197
This OP had me practically cheering from my desk. phleshdef Jun 2013 #207
It's about issues such as a horrible surveillance policy Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #208
oh for fuck sake can't you see it's not racism it"s RIGhT WING BULLSHIT he's promulgating! boilerbabe Jun 2013 #213
Your discussion on DADT is dishonest on several levels dsc Jun 2013 #218
+1 Lord, the revision around here Prism Jun 2013 #224
Sad little show going on in this thread. Quite amazing that the gays get the first strike... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #245
Given personal poster histories Prism Jun 2013 #248
On the other hand...let's recall the 90's backlash. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #249
oh please dsc Jun 2013 #258
I understand your argument, but I don't agree with it. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #262
I don't know if you were alive or an adult when Clinton was President dsc Jun 2013 #274
Clinton DID get a free pass. He pushed for and signed DOMA, then went all over the south Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #293
the same people who are speaking out now could it be dsc Jun 2013 #295
I don't know about where you lived but I lived Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #296
that would be hatred from the right dsc Jun 2013 #298
It's Chiffon! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #221
Cheap. Shameful. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #226
Some people come to message boards to VENT. hughee99 Jun 2013 #227
And as for Berlin, you have confused 2013 with 2008. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #228
You Liberals with your "facts" and "history" (nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #234
+1 OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #259
as long as my son is being cheated out of a good education I will criticize Obama and every other liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #231
He's not been as good as I wanted him to be Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #235
Nancy Pelosi used to be called a "bitch" here Enrique Jun 2013 #237
a search reveals that what you cast as some everyday occurrence actually happened about HiPointDem Jun 2013 #261
Hi, I am going to post something causing something and I do not know the answer... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #238
Racism. Definitely. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #244
Manny, help me! I may be a closet racist and not know it! What do I do? Safetykitten Jun 2013 #247
I don't think it's racism at all. (Not here.) Amonester Jun 2013 #252
Swing and a miss Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #253
how about this reason: "I don't belong to an organized party. I'm a Democrat." DebJ Jun 2013 #256
This is my take on things steve2470 Jun 2013 #260
Largely overblown expectations and disappointment that it was not Hillary intaglio Jun 2013 #264
^That was really good Kolesar Jun 2013 #266
the criticisms from the left are the exact opposite of those of Fox News and based on substance yurbud Jun 2013 #265
Imagine. A poster with an offensive stereotype for a user name accusing people of being racist forestpath Jun 2013 #272
NO.FUCKING.SHIT! MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #279
You didn't actually bother reading the post, did you? intaglio Jun 2013 #282
I read it. And it's a nice wordy bit of deflection in the guise of "asking" a question forestpath Jun 2013 #284
Fine, intaglio Jun 2013 #285
word Vanje Jun 2013 #286
Good post - thank you pgr Jun 2013 #276
Progressivism. Orsino Jun 2013 #278
what u can't criticise policy Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #281
Actually the policies can be defended intaglio Jun 2013 #283
then why resort to this low brow shit Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #289
Of course, low brow, intaglio Jun 2013 #292
Sub racism for hate and the link runs into the same dogma Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #297
Sorry but word salad is not in my diet ... intaglio Jun 2013 #304
another kick warrior1 Jun 2013 #287
If it's not racism or hate (see ProSense's OP), then it must be The Black Tax Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #290
What you're describing here is called The Black Tax. Plain and simple. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #294
Kick Scurrilous Jun 2013 #299
K&R BklnDem75 Jun 2013 #301
Last line is a leading sentence. I will not be boxed in by your framing. Pholus Jun 2013 #302
Is this racist? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #303
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