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30. The secrecy enables exploitation

Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:35 AM

Jun 2013

It's so easy for intelligence insiders to claim all this top secret stuff and then avoid any accountability after a bunch of people are murdered. There is so much secrecy that the public has no way to know who is telling the truth. IMO corruption is just as likely an explanation as a secret operation that somehow went bad.

One of the sickest aspects of post 9/11 is the way intelligence agents and officials went along with the Bush administration solution of a massive power grab. So they were silent as to why 9/11 really happened and remained silent as all sorts of horrible policies were enacted based on "the lesson of 9/11." I don't see why the public should be understanding of this. The CIA agents who took part in the doc Manhunt went around as heroes who stayed the course to find Bin Laden. To me it is grotesque for them to do so (and for the media to join in) considering they have not told the truth about pre-9/11.

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Director Mueller: Flt. 77 Hijackers were, in Fact, Under NSA Surveillance [View all] leveymg Jun 2013 OP

Fat lot of good that did. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #1

Thank you ellie Jun 2013 #10

If only we could have had a database of 480 trillion phone calls, we would have swooped in BlueStreak Jun 2013 #28

OK 9/11 was a surprise. Nobody connected the dots... JackN415 Jun 2013 #2

If only it were so simple as "surprise" and "nobody connected the dots". leveymg Jun 2013 #3

Not entirely. Bush gota daily briefing memo 36 days prior to 9/11/01, famously headlined: KurtNYC Jun 2013 #13

I'm giving them a big mulligan on 9/11. What they did in Boston bombing was not acceptable. JackN415 Jun 2013 #15

Yep. Something smells like spoiled tea there. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #37

truthout: (Clarke) Accuses Tenet, Other CIA Officials of Cover-Up johnnyreb Jun 2013 #4

Thank you for that. Pretty well sums up the 9/11 aftermath to date. leveymg Jun 2013 #11

The problem with Clarke's theory noise Jun 2013 #22

It was Bush and Cheney who refused to have the terrorist network rolled-up leveymg Jun 2013 #24

If the issue noise Jun 2013 #25

This is the way it was explained to me by someone who knows when I asked exactly the same leveymg Jun 2013 #29

The secrecy enables exploitation noise Jun 2013 #30

Absolutely. 9/11 was cultivated in overclassification and overcompartmentalization leveymg Jun 2013 #31

"We need more power to protect you from learning too much about us!" n/t Hydra Jun 2013 #5

Bingo! nt City Lights Jun 2013 #21

Fragmented turf wars between agencies & personalities... Historic NY Jun 2013 #6

In this case, "turf war" is just a euphemism for Obstruction of Justice leveymg Jun 2013 #8

thank you--there are many undercurrents and cross plots going on librechik Jun 2013 #7

On the contrary, I think it's now clear that a wider crime took place on 9/11. leveymg Jun 2013 #9

Many people don't realize noise Jun 2013 #20

+1 leveymg Jun 2013 #32

Through the years, there has been one overwhelming truth Savannahmann Jun 2013 #12

Should we have trusted all that CIA and NSA did because we liked JFK and LBJ? leveymg Jun 2013 #14

The CIA was never theirs. Never. You know that. DevonRex Jun 2013 #18

Kick for the Billionaire Control Complex Inc. johnnyreb Jun 2013 #16

What? Again? burnodo Jun 2013 #17

Yep. They can't handle the data they already have. They don't need more. n/t DirkGently Jun 2013 #19

Some might even want to tell them that less is, in fact, more. reformist2 Jun 2013 #26

Now, who do you think Mr Mueller is going to work for when he leaves the FBI?? kentuck Jun 2013 #23

'Wall' between FBI + CIA no surprise, elleng Jun 2013 #27

"The Wall" is a convenient scapegoat and was never as high as some wanted the public to believe leveymg Jun 2013 #33

Screw the NSA flap why the fuck has this been ignored and downplayed since GWB and Cheney? Lint Head Jun 2013 #34

Condi made misleading statements under oath, as did Tenet. leveymg Jun 2013 #35

So Tamerlan Tsarnaev was, as well, and now Fawke Em Jun 2013 #36