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In the discussion thread: Why American Kids Are Brats [View all]

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 06:05 PM

Matariki (15,019 posts)

91. I didn't suggest not having manners

just teaching useful ones that a child would carry over to adulthood. Would you ask permission to urinate? It's appropriate to politely ask if you can use someone's bathroom if you are a guest in their home, it's appropriate to excuse yourself from a meal or a meeting to use the bathroom. It's not appropriate to expect to hold your urine until someone allows you to relieve yourself.

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120 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why American Kids Are Brats [View all]	proud2BlibKansan	Feb 2012	OP
Is the generalization really justified?	treestar	Feb 2012	#1
Not at all. But hey, bashing the next generation is always fun.	TheWraith	Feb 2012	#3
In my experience it is because the French are more accepting of extramarital sex...	rfranklin	Feb 2012	#10
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tesha	Feb 2012	#41
Um, actually, the author is comparing one part of the next generation	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#66
I once was so fed up with my fifth graders not saying please and thank you that I	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#16
Why should anyone have to say "please" to go to the bathroom?	Matariki	Feb 2012	#28
when i was a little kid in school, most would raise their hand and say	dionysus	Feb 2012	#33
Yep, me too.	Matariki	Feb 2012	#34
yeah, by HS, it wasn't formal you'd raise your hand and say you need to use the can and it was ok...	dionysus	Feb 2012	#35
Example #1: Why should anyone have to say "please" (insert anything here)?	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#48
Why should we ever have manners or politeness	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#67
I didn't suggest not having manners	Matariki	Feb 2012	#91
It depends	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#95
That's a bit of an atypical situation you are describing	Matariki	Feb 2012	#100
Probably not, but they could	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#111
because its my job. socializing kids is my damned job	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#72
Just recently a parent said to me	proud2BlibKansan	Feb 2012	#76
agreed. I wish people would stop being 'friends'	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#101
I use that 'ask' trick myself	proud2BlibKansan	Feb 2012	#106
Okay	Matariki	Feb 2012	#92
Agreed. I had this creepy teacher who said we had to ask her to go	treestar	Feb 2012	#89
Sometimes some teachers or entire school districts seem to care more about control	Matariki	Feb 2012	#93
A grade school teacher of mine was pulling a power play	BadgerKid	Feb 2012	#98
everyone has a story like that. Sorry it happened to you.	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#103
No, it isn't	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#43
I'm curious too	Dorian Gray	Feb 2012	#118
I'm just guessing.....	vanlassie	Feb 2012	#2
That was my immediate thought also.	KitSileya	Feb 2012	#36
No, if you read the article, you'll see that it's all French people, even the daycare providers.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#49
What I find astonishing is...	Darth_Kitten	Feb 2012	#54
On the other hand	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#68
You're serious?	Darth_Kitten	Feb 2012	#70
So you see someone wanting to get by	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#74
Less, according to my friend who lives in France	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#44
Here's another one:	Swede	Feb 2012	#4
And it has been going downhill since then,	Curmudgeoness	Feb 2012	#13
one wonders what the elders said about Hesiod's generation when they were young	fishwax	Feb 2012	#25
I swear it's some subtle form of brain damage...	JHB	Feb 2012	#56
Is that an excuse for bad manners? Because some people had bad manners when they were young?	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#63
No, it's not an excuse. Beyond that, I'm not really sure of the point of your response to me...	JHB	Feb 2012	#71
In my years of working in retail	tabbycat31	Feb 2012	#84
Arrogance , Dillusions of entitlement ,and Sycophancy	orpupilofnature57	Feb 2012	#5
when we should really be teaching spelling nt	Dreamer Tatum	Feb 2012	#12
LMAO.nt	expatriate2mex	Feb 2012	#15
ditto	Habibi	Feb 2012	#31
How embarrassing	orpupilofnature57	Feb 2012	#79
And capitalization. Punctuation comes in a close second.	Ikonoklast	Feb 2012	#88
I always dilute my entitlements.	Codeine	Feb 2012	#18
I'm a dunce	orpupilofnature57	Feb 2012	#80
didn't this idea get old	DonCoquixote	Feb 2012	#6
Except they almost elected a Woman president 2007	orpupilofnature57	Feb 2012	#7
er woman	DonCoquixote	Feb 2012	#8
To be fair	RZM	Feb 2012	#17
"Why American Kids Are Brats" because we keep telling them they are so we are going to	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#9
Ah yes...it's all our fault again!!	LadyHawkAZ	Feb 2012	#11
+1	mercuryblues	Feb 2012	#14
I agree. Our whole culture is just royally f@#$ed up.	Arugula Latte	Feb 2012	#19
excellent post. ya. nt	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#23
the WHOLE culture	laundry_queen	Feb 2012	#39
Canadian kids are not that much better...	Darth_Kitten	Feb 2012	#55
Too many American parents don't parent their kids	LiberalEsto	Feb 2012	#20
French parents have time to parent.	LeftyMom	Feb 2012	#21
This. All kinds of this.	knitter4democracy	Feb 2012	#29
Pfft...you should hear kids from Argentina. They are fucking loud and annoying. American kids have	Evoman	Feb 2012	#22
Brazilian middle schoolers and teens!	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#45
My one experience with a Brazilian kid...AWFUL!	mainer	Feb 2012	#52
Very interesting	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#61
Brazilian exchange students are probably very well-to-do	mainer	Feb 2012	#64
rofl	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#81
Six stinking weeks	mainer	Feb 2012	#83
I had a Brazilian exchange student as a classmate in high school.	Ikonoklast	Feb 2012	#90
Oh great, another "kids these days" whine.	Odin2005	Feb 2012	#24
I was trying to quietly read Diderot in the adult incontinence aisle at Wal-Mart	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#38
It's because we are old, cranky, and weren't spoiled, annoying brats in OUR youths.	Darth_Kitten	Feb 2012	#57
You'd want kids off your lawn too, if your vision was failing, your back was sore, and your ass hurt	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#86
Well played sir, well play... wait....	boppers	Feb 2012	#97
could it be....	unkachuck	Feb 2012	#26
The word "Please" what it can...	mrmpa	Feb 2012	#27
It's one thing to say "french kids are more polite"	Matariki	Feb 2012	#30
Like that Tiger Mother garbage from last year	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#46
Maybe American Kids are brats 'cuz last year they got their stuffed animals thrown in the fireplace	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#116
I agree with you on that	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#119
I didn't need anyone to tell me American kids are rude. I witness it frequently.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#50
I don't know about French children but I grew up in a house were manners were taught in the cradle.	nanabugg	Feb 2012	#32
Sure. And then they grow up to be French adults, so it's a wash.	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#37
lol	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#47
Yeah, it's funny to denigrate someone's heritage. "Hey, he's an a-hole...he must be Italian!"	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#109
I know. People should be able to discuss Why American Kids Are Brats	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#113
It was funny, because of the subject of teh OP	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#120
What's wrong with being French?	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#51
Oh, I'm sorry that I responded to the goofy generalization-laden premise with a generalization.	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#85
Yeah, it's funny to denigrate someone's heritage. "Hey, that's as bad as being Italian or black!"	Honeycombe8	Feb 2012	#108
Um. The title of the OP is "Why American Kids Are Brats"	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#112
shrug n/t	JHB	Feb 2012	#62
"Oh, excuse me, you would like to invade my country?"	boppers	Feb 2012	#99
I have some friends that I can not be around any more because they have made	WCGreen	Feb 2012	#40
I hear that!	JNelson6563	Feb 2012	#117
American kids are very well behaved compared to many countries' kids	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#42
The one thing that saddens me about (some) American parents	justiceischeap	Feb 2012	#58
I agree with that	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#59
It's true that a lot of Japanese parents treat their sons like crown princes	Lydia Leftcoast	Feb 2012	#105
I thought that was very interesting	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#107
I've been trying to think of a reply to this thread without the "get off my lawn" feel to it.	Arkansas Granny	Feb 2012	#53
"The lack of extended families"	justiceischeap	Feb 2012	#60
Yes, a close community or neighborhood can be almost as good as family.	Arkansas Granny	Feb 2012	#65
I' m French. I listened to this person being interviewed, and my feeling was: what a load of BS.	Mass	Feb 2012	#69
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2012	#96
I am the Mom of a 6 and 7 year old and I substitute teach in schools all week.	Jennicut	Feb 2012	#73
My teenage son is in a child care class in his high school	gulliver	Feb 2012	#75
This message was self-deleted by its author	FarCenter	Feb 2012	#77
One of the good things religion did was teach kids to sit still and be quiet for an hour at a time	FarCenter	Feb 2012	#78
Not all of them are brats, by any means.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#82
Most American children ARE rude. But then, so are their parents. And children from the north tend	appleannie1	Feb 2012	#87
I realize I don't work with children ...	etherealtruth	Feb 2012	#94
My mother once talked to the director of a Norwegian's children's choir that performed in	Lydia Leftcoast	Feb 2012	#102
They should become Stepford children?	FrodosPet	Feb 2012	#104
Why do people argue this way?	renie408	Feb 2012	#110
Argue what way? You mean, with stupid generalizations like "American Kids Are Brats"?	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#114
I'm confused! I thought Chinese "Tiger Moms" were best! Help! Help!	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#115

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