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In reply to the discussion: Snowden and Greenwald Beginning to Self-Destruct; ‘The Nation’ and ‘Mother Jones’ Raise Questions [View all]Monkie
(1,301 posts)129. correct me if i am wrong, but you were the `body language` person?
yes she said everything was legal, and i think that was her point, did you not watch the video hear her tone? how she hesitated at points, the difference in how she discussed this and the clear and calm way in which snowden talked.
and im not scared, im mad as hell.
my point is, and hers too if you watch the video, is that there is much much more than the leaks from snowden via greenwald, and it is not the case, as some are trying to assert, that snowden is making a mountain out of a molehill, it is the tip of the iceberg.
when people use the term, tip of the iceberg, it seldom means your getting ice cream, it means your are sunk like the titanic?
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Snowden and Greenwald Beginning to Self-Destruct; ‘The Nation’ and ‘Mother Jones’ Raise Questions [View all]
flamingdem
Jun 2013
OP
The bottom line, to me, is that there is no doub that NSA not only has access to,
MotherPetrie
Jun 2013
#1
They've been after him since the first story, which held nothing classified but that they were
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#94
I don't know what you mean by "every piece of electronic communication." They only
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#32
Are you accusing some here of being duped by a former Cato Institute and Koch Brothers employee
Ikonoklast
Jun 2013
#196
the kneejerking is done by Obama fans who give him a pass because he's supposedly a Dem instead
MotherPetrie
Jun 2013
#92
Greenwald thought he saw a sore spot in the Liberal Left and he is trying to
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2013
#104
It's not about them. It's about a rubber stamp court that permits the government to
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#11
You want there to still be a 4th Amendment!? Why, you pearl-clutching unicorn-herder!
villager
Jun 2013
#15
that's a bit obvious. There's a million may or may nots in this life. A million what ifs.
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#17
I don't care when it broke. We need to put pressure on our government to stop spying on citizens.
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#21
Precisely--and the timing of the release of info (which Snowden insisted upon) had to be precise.
MADem
Jun 2013
#157
but they're willing to approve collecting phone data on millions ordinary average American
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#26
They have data on telephone numbers made by ordinary citizens with no probable cause.
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#44
data is transmitted using the companies servers with FTP access - not accessing !
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#23
I don't really understand this. Here is what Feinstein just said after the secret briefing:
reusrename
Jun 2013
#47
I don't care when the news broke. I don't care that it is legal. It is unconstitutional and therefor
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#28
They can get phone numbers I have called from the phone companies when they have no
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#36
If you're "no longer a democrat" then you haven't been one since the late seventies.
MADem
Jun 2013
#159
Actually, the Verizon story came first, got a big reaction, is a big deal. The PRISM story came
Hissyspit
Jun 2013
#52
Then they should never have approved letting the government collect phone data on
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#45
Direct Access Is The One Thing That The Surveillance State Would Most Want To Bury
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#54
"Move along. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention to the men behind the curtain."
Ford_Prefect
Jun 2013
#59
More like, 'Stop living in a Harry Potter fantasy and look at the real world's problems.'
randome
Jun 2013
#69
Companies that protest that the NSA does not have access to their data are lying.
Laelth
Jun 2013
#79
“direct access” description … only aspect … that was unknown prior = DU's instant reaction
Coyotl
Jun 2013
#88
she! LOL! proven that you DID not even read the article or watch the video, that scared i see
Monkie
Jun 2013
#109
She says she learned significantly more. So what? That by itself means nothing.
randome
Jun 2013
#121
K&R... did you see the WSWS thread with the assertion that we MUST support Snowden, Assange, etc?
redqueen
Jun 2013
#137
A mass movement of easily-led, cult of personality-worshipping reactionaries. nt
redqueen
Jun 2013
#155