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I agree Will Marrah_G Jun 2013 #1
My biggest beef with the * admin's wire-tap program was that it was warrantless. TheDebbieDee Jun 2013 #109
The difference between Bush's surveillance and Pres Obama's is that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #145
Don't you see the bad mojo in that approach? Myrina Jun 2013 #149
We live in a democracy, I have high expectations of my government not violating my rights. And when sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #166
Seriously? SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #162
You and I disagree on this Marrah_G Jun 2013 #163
What y'all ^ said. DCKit Jun 2013 #165
Dude! Solly Mack Jun 2013 #2
Yes, indeed... Very disconcerting to see... n/t hlthe2b Jun 2013 #3
My brain hurts too... kentuck Jun 2013 #4
...as well as a towering testament WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #7
True dat... kentuck Jun 2013 #27
Should not be that surprising to us zeemike Jun 2013 #37
Boom. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #112
As I have posted before, more people care about sports WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #54
I COULD KICK ROARING CRAB ASS Skittles Jun 2013 #140
I hate that almost more than I hate Rahm Emanuel tavalon Jun 2013 #100
Kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2013 #5
Seems legit leftstreet Jun 2013 #6
OMG WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #8
Truth in advertising... lame54 Jun 2013 #12
That' hairlarious mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #18
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #9
Swinging dead cats is against DU rules lame54 Jun 2013 #10
In all fairness mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #20
But swinging Schrödinger cats is obligatory. longship Jun 2013 #25
A man carrying a cat Maynar Jun 2013 #113
Indubitably wise, he was. nt longship Jun 2013 #120
In fairness there are also plenty denouncing the program el_bryanto Jun 2013 #11
Invective aside, Maedhros Jun 2013 #43
I agree, that if you oppose the PRISM program, you are certainly right el_bryanto Jun 2013 #47
It's not that it's legit so much as its not news that this is going on. Just Saying Jun 2013 #13
indeed. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #14
I don't think people are arguing in FAVOR of eternal vigilance for evil terrorists. randome Jun 2013 #15
This. Get the FISA law and Patriot Act repealed, amended, or Skidmore Jun 2013 #28
Amen. Moostache Jun 2013 #144
Really, tavalon Jun 2013 #102
Dude - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #16
I admit to thinking that was a Republican Rightie trait until BO became POTUS. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #115
in all fairness Skittles Jun 2013 #139
Yes. I was pretty happy when he was first elected. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #143
I Second That RobinA Jun 2013 #156
Here: I'll strain that brain a bit more: Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #17
+ 1,000 suffragette Jun 2013 #38
Done Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #65
knr'd frylock Jun 2013 #95
Interesting Info...thanks! KoKo Jun 2013 #39
Thanks so much. Excellent post. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #129
It's seems like our Constitution has become no more useful than as a Cleita Jun 2013 #19
The thing about this war on terror that gets me is A Simple Game Jun 2013 #21
I totally agree. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #57
Thom Hartmann put it like this: SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #87
"Authoritarianism and violence are not the cure for terrorism" but they are profitable industries .. SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2013 #161
because things like the Color coded Alerts were obviously fake and more for political JI7 Jun 2013 #22
Some of us took the long view that to prevent terrorism, tavalon Jun 2013 #103
When was the Boston Marathon?? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #23
Go for it, Major (to go further off-topic) mike dub Jun 2013 #35
I didn't know that. Thanks for the information. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #82
There is considerable ground between "the war on terror is the greatest challenge geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24
exactly OKNancy Jun 2013 #31
Its all OK because YOU "trust Obama"!!???? bvar22 Jun 2013 #74
Do you sometimes feel as though chervilant Jun 2013 #96
I think that people need to be able to trust someone. Pres Obama has a nice smile and a nice family. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #107
Shit.... Enthusiast Jun 2013 #142
Do you trust the next President and the President after that? Lather, rinse, repeat tavalon Jun 2013 #104
Right. And the middle ground doesn't include the largest spy program in history. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #116
Thank you, Will! intheflow Jun 2013 #26
Your one statement is the tell all. timdog44 Jun 2013 #50
Oy. Where do I start with this? intheflow Jun 2013 #132
I can start by taking the last first. timdog44 Jun 2013 #135
I'm sorry. intheflow Jun 2013 #178
And peace to you. timdog44 Jun 2013 #186
rec SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #29
Damn straight. We need to focus on ISSUES. Matariki Jun 2013 #30
Bernie Sanders is troubled by this and everyone knows what a RW tool he is! nt Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #32
Along with my Senators, Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley. Maedhros Jun 2013 #46
And they've been joined by Grayson. JoeyT Jun 2013 #94
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right." Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #33
Nice quote tavalon Jun 2013 #105
Never ending bullshit Uzair Jun 2013 #34
Shortcut to Thinking 101 WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #36
If you are going to start the thread Gore1FL Jun 2013 #44
remember when Barney Frank alluded to a table leg? Skittles Jun 2013 #99
Barney Frank's response was warranted. Gore1FL Jun 2013 #158
"equating Obama to Bush" Skittles Jun 2013 #159
I don't think that is what he did. Gore1FL Jun 2013 #168
it's hair splitting Skittles Jun 2013 #169
I agree with that Gore1FL Jun 2013 #175
You think William Rivers Pitt is out to discredit the President? Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #183
Did I say that? Gore1FL Jun 2013 #185
"The media creates fake scandal" What's fake about any of this? SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #41
Are you serious? ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #64
The Reality Based Community Canard HangOnKids Jun 2013 #68
So when intelligence is "cherry picked" and facts are just made up SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #89
When a "vote on it" is passed by lawful authority... that makes it legal. ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #137
right on. n t Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #184
Actually, he's accusing you of treating politics like a team sport tavalon Jun 2013 #106
"What, exactly, has Obama done that has even remotely crossed the line?" bvar22 Jun 2013 #124
Candidate Obama... NealK Jun 2013 #176
THAT guy would have made a great President! bvar22 Jun 2013 #177
What has Obama done. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #130
Fake scandal? Apophis Jun 2013 #133
I guess force feeding and solitary confinement don't count. nt Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #182
Could all of this stuff give rise to a 3rd party? Malik Agar Jun 2013 #40
You mean a liberal version of the Tea Party? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #48
National Third Parties have been BillyRibs Jun 2013 #51
The People need to rise. The 'parties' will follow n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #58
"The parties will follow". Sort of like they started to with Occupy. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #75
Occupy was never that kind of a movement leftstreet Jun 2013 #78
The Immigration Bill being debated in the Senate is also cutting across party lines. Laelth Jun 2013 #62
Both parties are run by corporations WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #79
It has for me. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #181
What hurts my brain is people equating those who recognize this is not new with saying it's ok. uppityperson Jun 2013 #42
The same voices? Are you sure? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #45
Yeah --- that one hurt my brain, too. George Gently Jun 2013 #122
I suspect Al-Qaeda and other Islamic terror groups don't drink champagne, but if jtuck004 Jun 2013 #49
Shush you! What did I tell you about pointing out hypocrisy??? Javaman Jun 2013 #52
It is strange days but Drale Jun 2013 #53
I was most likely one of those voices, the reason I haven't spoken up until now,, benld74 Jun 2013 #55
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #56
Are you sure they were the same people? The democratic party is a huge tent apples and oranges Jun 2013 #59
K&R! Phlem Jun 2013 #60
Agree... KoKo Jun 2013 #61
you mean what happened to the fight clubs at the end, everyone chasing a phantom? MisterP Jun 2013 #85
Chasing a Phantom.......maybe... KoKo Jun 2013 #86
"At least he's OUR guy who's doing it" ... nicely, with kid gloves & smooth speeches 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #63
It's pass interference when they do it. It's good defense when your team does it. tkmorris Jun 2013 #66
Well said, Will. SheilaT Jun 2013 #67
Well said as well. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #80
It`s The Head Nodders Club. democrank Jun 2013 #69
well the same thing happened with the Bush tax cuts hfojvt Jun 2013 #70
I am still yelling Generic Other Jun 2013 #71
exactly , it's hypocritical and SICKENING and everybody knows their names. boilerbabe Jun 2013 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jun 2013 #76
There are a lot of smart people here. pitchforx Jun 2013 #73
You raise interesting questions. (eom) KoKo Jun 2013 #77
Good points treestar Jun 2013 #119
The government probably spies on people who oppose their JDPriestly Jun 2013 #134
Do you really know that treestar Jun 2013 #150
The Patriot Act... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #81
abso-effin-lutely! pitchforx Jun 2013 #83
We've always been at war with East Asia. TransitJohn Jun 2013 #84
And to all those saying "You don't need to worry... Saviolo Jun 2013 #88
You mean "people" like Senator Al Franken? Number23 Jun 2013 #90
"I'd be even more concerned about being on the same side as the wildlings in GD on this or any issue WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #97
It's fine that you missed my point. But I have no idea why you'd be nasty about it as well Number23 Jun 2013 #101
Awfully sensitive for 13k posts. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #117
Tone is always a consideration for good writers. Minimizes the chance of misunderstandings Number23 Jun 2013 #126
Quoting you is nasty and wrong? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #153
The face palm smiley was what I was talking to WILL PITT about, thanks Number23 Jun 2013 #170
If you don't want anyone to reply to your posts on a PUBLIC Board HangOnKids Jun 2013 #171
Again to WILL PITT. Thanks Number23 Jun 2013 #172
Your last post was to me, so I replied HangOnKids Jun 2013 #173
Politics over principles n2doc Jun 2013 #91
"many people agreeing vehemently" Canuckistanian Jun 2013 #92
mind boggling, At least when the Republicans are in power Democrats believe in the Constitution Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #93
Having not read any of the previous comments... ybbor Jun 2013 #98
I'm right there with you MissDeeds Jun 2013 #108
I suggest we all go back to using carrier pigeons to communicate. Amonester Jun 2013 #110
I guess I should get rid of my shredder now LittleGirl Jun 2013 #111
To be fair, we are in part to blame........ wandy Jun 2013 #114
It's a matter of where the balance is treestar Jun 2013 #118
It certainly appears that far too many people have assimilated the Third Way/GOP meme that Zorra Jun 2013 #121
Great Post William Pitt! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #123
Mine hurts too felix_numinous Jun 2013 #125
Hurts the brain and also the heart MuseRider Jun 2013 #127
The war on terror is complete and utter hogwash. It's the war on the US Constitution. AAO Jun 2013 #128
The only problem I have with this situation is "why now?" haele Jun 2013 #131
I personally haven't seen that flavor of hypocrisy... paulkienitz Jun 2013 #136
Well, the good news is Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #138
Obtuse much, Mr. Pitt? michigandem58 Jun 2013 #141
I honestly don't know what to say....except where was the outrage 10 years ago cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #146
I long for the days of DU before it became DU2. It makes my head hurt also Will. Hotler Jun 2013 #147
I see no problem with a variety of opinions. Kablooie Jun 2013 #148
Your brain would hurt less if you could cure yourself of oversimplification and binary thinking. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #151
PNAC Lives whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #152
Bullshit. Most of us aren't "defending the NSA". We're pointing out that laws have been passed > KittyWampus Jun 2013 #154
Sorry to hear this is happening on DU. So chalk me up as one dem gtar100 Jun 2013 #155
B-But Bush lied or something!!!1 nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #157
obama made dubya's program legal datasuspect Jun 2013 #160
Well, he did promise "change". And, transparency....oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #164
A couple of points stevenleser Jun 2013 #167
I would be pissed off about this if Dennis Kucinich or Alan Grayson did it. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #174
The pew poll inside the latest Greenwald piece nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #179
Still waiting for the reasoning from the 64% B2G Jun 2013 #180
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