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Barack_America

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16. Ok, let's do some math. The maximum one can make for Medicaid/CHIP coverage....
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jun 2013

...is 300% of the federal poverty level. Most states max out at 250% of the poverty level, which is $48,000 for a family of three.

Let's assume a family of 3 makes $49,000 per year, just out of the range of CHIP coverage. Family coverage in the policies we are shopping averages out at $750 per month (excluding copays and deductibles). That comes out to $9000 per year, or 18.3% of yearly income for premiums ALONE. That's double than what the ACA deems an "affordable" amount to spend on healthcare premiums.

Do you think it's fair for a family making $49,000 a year to spend 18% of their income on health insurance premiums? Do you consider that "affordable"?** Do you think it's fair for a family making $1,000 a year over the 250% federal poverty max to be COMPLETELY excluded from federal assistance?

Maybe you do, but I would hope that most progressives would not.

**The Obama administration clearly recognizes that these families will not be able to afford coverage, but unfortunately just decided to let them opt-out of healthcare without penalty, rather than work to extend assistance to them.

I don't think I've ever worked for a company that paid for dependent insurance auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #1
I take issue with dependents being locked out from the exchanges... Barack_America Jun 2013 #2
That's exactly what's happening. Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #4
And, sadly, it was deliberately engineered into the bill. Barack_America Jun 2013 #9
You are absolutely right Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #3
This is where Wal-Mart offering coverage would be a worst case scenario for their employees. Barack_America Jun 2013 #7
I thought kids were automatically covered under their parents' plans until 26?? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #5
They have to be OFFERED coverage. Barack_America Jun 2013 #6
Got it. Let me go and do more reading on this. It's an interesting topic. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #8
To know if it sucks, I'd have to compare it to what they had BEFORE the ACA. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #10
I don't understand your argument. Barack_America Jun 2013 #11
So they had nothing before? I disagree with you, then, that an improvement = sucks. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #12
There's no financial help for middle class families. Barack_America Jun 2013 #14
Lower middle class families qualify for subsidies. Middle class people w/o ins CAN get ins Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #15
Ok, let's do some math. The maximum one can make for Medicaid/CHIP coverage.... Barack_America Jun 2013 #16
I'm done arguing with you. Be happy for those it helps. Let's say it together... Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #19
You're willing to write-off 3.9 million Americans. I'm not. Barack_America Jun 2013 #20
Fed Subsidies available for 100-400% FPL in the Marketplace jasmine1972 Oct 2013 #21
Not available for those with employer-based coverage. Barack_America Oct 2013 #22
Every time I have had employer based coverage, my employer paid half+ the cost of the insurance. uppityperson Oct 2013 #23
The ACA requires dependent children be offered the employer-based coverage... Barack_America Oct 2013 #24
It certainly is unclear. jasmine1972 Oct 2013 #25
Unfortunately, you have to take what your employer offers. Barack_America Oct 2013 #26
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #28
It's going to be company by company. dkf Oct 2013 #27
On fixing the ACA and its suckiness lhooq Jun 2013 #13
Oh dear, more details of the ACA become known, but really... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #17
3.9 million dependents (mostly children) according to Wyden's estimates. Barack_America Jun 2013 #18
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