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Douglas Carpenter

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167. as I said a few well - very few - you will see

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Americans Are Outraged Because in Voting for Obama, They Thought They Were Rejecting Bush [View all] kpete Jun 2013 OP

You tell people you are going to do something and turn around and do the Autumn Jun 2013 #1

What's more, Obama could end this program with the stroke of a pen. Laelth Jun 2013 #14

Yes he could, and said he would. Autumn Jun 2013 #31

Ignore his words. Watch his actions. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #50

That was 2007 Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #69

So he had the liberal view through the key primaries & then switched to the authoritarian view? limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #158

He also said he wouldn't enact HC without a public option Doctor_J Jun 2013 #116

Well if you're gonna be picky. tblue Jun 2013 #183

When Clinton supporters said he did not have enough experience, who juajen Jun 2013 #218

Exactly!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #155

Are you saying that the Obama church of worshippers don't think? OMG! L0oniX Jun 2013 #41

So who're ya' gonna vote for next time, Diogenes? xtraxritical Jun 2013 #143

Lemme guess... Amonester Jun 2013 #192

Yeah, things can change with National Security.. any "thinking person" Cha Jun 2013 #76

It's the same as it ever was. Autumn Jun 2013 #79

And a "whatever" to you too, Autumn. Cha Jun 2013 #90

So you are telling us that "things can change" and not that things did change? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #127

What you boldly proclaim you're GOING TO DO, Plucketeer Jun 2013 #164

That was certainly Bush's excuse too. 'Everything changed after 9/11' and he got the Patriot Act sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #184

That is exactly right. What a scam! JEB Jun 2013 #216

This should be an OP BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #222

They voted against Bush and got BUSH LITE instead warrant46 Jun 2013 #150

I understand being pissed, cheapdate Jun 2013 #175

But much of what's he's doing is making us less, not more, safe from terrorist attacks. freedom fighter jh Jun 2013 #195

The problem isn't the guy in the chair. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #2

Exactly.... titanicdave Jun 2013 #24

Outstanding job for whom? RC Jun 2013 #40

The law is the law because Democrats like Obama shamefully voted for it. You clearly do not recall sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #55

The FBI and police departments have been spying on Americans for years and years. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #146

'I support the Patriot Act'. That says it all to me. Did you support it when it Bush was president? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #190

wow, talk about a "good german." tomp Jun 2013 #199

I'm thinking it wouldn't have been so bad to have remained British... DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #187

Lol, you've got a point, even Britain has, or had before Blair, a fairly responsive government. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #191

Without America breaking away dbackjon Jun 2013 #209

At least they had the Magna Charta nt DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #233

What things? sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #73

pissed kardonb Jun 2013 #104

Absolute bullshit and I'm going to call you out on that laundry_queen Jun 2013 #107

WTF are you talking about? quakerboy Jun 2013 #131

No one was outraged???? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #179

no one was outraged when bushboy started all this??!! progressoid Jun 2013 #194

"No one was Outraged when buschboy started all this" MadrasT Jun 2013 #207

"President Obama is doing an outstanding job all the way around." Phlem Jun 2013 #140

Your troubles are from Congress not from the President. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #147

You mean Phlem Jun 2013 #149

So that is a fucking excuse? dbackjon Jun 2013 #208

I'm going to guess you didn't read the article Autumn Jun 2013 #38

Stole them. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #51

Here's whom to blame. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #225

Horse hockey. It ain't the rapist, it's the dress she wore. Blame the victim, no. grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #66

Victims my ass. Americans elected all those assholes who voted for the patriot act. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #85

No, you are very wrong. The elected representatives did not represent the will of the people. grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #232

No one asked for this, we were not even told. Senator Wyden from 2011: Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #84

Wyden is right. Yet voters elected assholes who disagreed with him. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #91

Voters also elected Wyden, Merkely, Udall, Feingold and many others who have attempted to Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #110

secrecy is a HUGE problem. tomp Jun 2013 #201

Obama should have the conviction to go in front of the American people cheapdate Jun 2013 #168

That is real pretzel logic....I am being nice. dotymed Jun 2013 #204

It's an uncomfortable reality that we elected (and then largely re-elected) the people who did this. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #224

We did get fooled again... zeemike Jun 2013 #3

American Politics = Catch-22 Octafish Jun 2013 #4

K&R. nt. premium Jun 2013 #5

Obama - Protecting The Status Quo Daily - Hope He Enjoys Our Telephone Conversations cantbeserious Jun 2013 #10

Listen Good President Obama As I Know Your NSA Is Reading This --- As I Type!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #156

Yes. One party the corporate party. wilsonbooks Jun 2013 #153

Americans are not outraged arely staircase Jun 2013 #6

You forgot the sarcasm tag. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #15

"Americans" implies most or a majority are outraged, or that more than usual are outraged arely staircase Jun 2013 #16

I see what you mean now. Laelth Jun 2013 #17

he has an 83 percent approval rating among democrats, so it isn't emerging yet. arely staircase Jun 2013 #20

I'm not worried about Obama's chances of being re-elected. Laelth Jun 2013 #22

+a zillion. graham4anything Jun 2013 #26

It's old and not news like Benghazi, IRS, AP, Reston and what ever I'm forgetting. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #72

What's Reston? nt freedom fighter jh Jun 2013 #197

Binary Choice polls... bvar22 Jun 2013 #98

It's not the Dems he has to worry about Doctor_J Jun 2013 #121

Here's a REALITY for ya! LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #159

A VIABLE (NON-CORPORATE) THIRD PARTY IS OUR ONLY CHANCE. dotymed Jun 2013 #205

No it doesn't imply "most or a majority" Doctor_J Jun 2013 #117

obama is extremely popular with democrats - 83 percent approval arely staircase Jun 2013 #130

which has nothing to do with the op Doctor_J Jun 2013 #182

I think it's even worse for my generation Ava Jun 2013 #7

Buyers Remorse Is An Ugly Revalation - Turns Out That Obama Was An Ad Campaign For The Status Quo cantbeserious Jun 2013 #8

Pictures of matchstick men graham4anything Jun 2013 #88

could you please quantify "young people are outraged"? arely staircase Jun 2013 #19

I never said "all young people" or "most young people" even Ava Jun 2013 #29

all the young people i know are dems and are happy with the president arely staircase Jun 2013 #45

Rah Rah Sis boom bah. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #52

such bon mot arely staircase Jun 2013 #56

Fooled ya! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #60

guffaw!!! choie Jun 2013 #82

Check Out WHERE old arely staircase found that photo he is so proud of. bvar22 Jun 2013 #132

Really? dotymed Jun 2013 #206

nope, college age and otherwise twenty somethings, and they love our president arely staircase Jun 2013 #211

You don't need to justify yourself to the newbe Ava. As a well known "young person" here Dragonfli Jun 2013 #123

Young people are outraged? That's where his highest approvals come from, combined with JaneyVee Jun 2013 #25

We're all Republicans now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #53

Great! We will sweep just like we did in 2010 then! Doctor_J Jun 2013 #124

I was just about to point that out. bvar22 Jun 2013 #134

don't forget how they despise"the left" Doctor_J Jun 2013 #181

Obama gave Hope to fredamae Jun 2013 #70

with all due respect DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #166

No, the Clintons were never old school Dems DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #188

I know fredamae Jun 2013 #215

I was a Lot more fredamae Jun 2013 #214

I wish you could have been born earlier.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #160

Wait! dennis4868 Jun 2013 #169

WAIT!!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #173

I just made a point dennis4868 Jun 2013 #174

um.....those of us who were paying attention knew better Skittles Jun 2013 #9

Right You Are - Kudos cantbeserious Jun 2013 #11

it's funny how this news comes out Ava Jun 2013 #12

hasn't let me down once. I don't care nor follow Ron and Rand Paul and what they think. graham4anything Jun 2013 #30

Nor do I Ava Jun 2013 #33

They are part of team Bush. Looking to fracture. And NO Obama core supporter is outraged. graham4anything Jun 2013 #36

You don't know shit about Ava, she is no "team Bush" player, the opposite in fact Dragonfli Jun 2013 #126

Don't bother to argue with this poster, ask him instead about "first they came for the rich" :) idwiyo Jun 2013 #135

Check out it's OP newly on the greatest page, worth a few laughs. Dragonfli Jun 2013 #136

WOW... Thank you for the tip. idwiyo Jun 2013 #138

Hear! Hear!! n/t ReRe Jun 2013 #151

Many Democrats on here seem ctsnowman Jun 2013 #42

I have a more positive John2 Jun 2013 #148

Very well stated! Add the media to Congress as another culprit. asjr Jun 2013 #202

He didn't change parties if that's what you mean. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #43

Personal Threshold freedom fighter jh Jun 2013 #196

The smugness of the Bushies on TV pisses me off so damned much. Arggghhhhhgh. dkf Jun 2013 #13

"Like a freaking tax attorney who knows the laws so they can get around them." blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #54

The world sucked under bush, in several ways bhikkhu Jun 2013 #18

^THAT^ I voted for him because I trusted him to do the right things and I think he is. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #77

Yeah, you go ahead and trust and have your faith. Me, I'll pay attention to what he DOES. Demit Jun 2013 #94

I don't vote for someone to micromanage them and I'm comfortable with the decisions he makes. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #141

I'm with you dennis4868 Jun 2013 #170

How many congressmen & judges have something being held over their heads? B2G Jun 2013 #21

Sometimes when an otherwise good democrat does something inexcusable GoneFishin Jun 2013 #44

Then they're compromised Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #105

J. Hoover would know, but he's gone now. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #142

Americans are outraged? JoePhilly Jun 2013 #23

This American is outraged: ucrdem Jun 2013 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #27

And the sock puppets come on liberal/progressive websites to blow more smoke about how blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #59

nailed it - "our political process, it's a real scam" ConcernedCanuk Jun 2013 #172

At least in Canada... DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #189

Well...yeah. Chan790 Jun 2013 #32

K&R MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #34

well they should be, but most Americans are not outraged about this. In fact the public has been so Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #35

We're all Germans now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #63

you keep claiming that the people demanded that which was done without their consent. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #87

please try to grasp the over all point people try to make when they say something Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #102

I do. You claim the people demanded something they were not told about and which this person's Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #108

you are complaining about rude personal swipes? my what irony Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #122

Yeah Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #163

as I said a few well - very few - you will see Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #167

my blood boils everytime I hear the words from campaign Obama vs the real Obama xiamiam Jun 2013 #37

Someone LIED. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #62

Exactly how I feel. Can't stand to watch him. Demit Jun 2013 #96

He's done with me..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #162

Headline gussmith Jun 2013 #39

Yes. It says "the thing that is not"... gulliver Jun 2013 #46

Tell the complainers to get out the vote in 2014 Politicalboi Jun 2013 #47

F U N N Y blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #49

Oh...we should just work for our spymasters DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #58

And there it is, the argument used to try to shut down any discussion Hissyspit Jun 2013 #65

No, that wasn't said to shut down discussion. It was good advice if you Cha Jun 2013 #74

So is letting the President know when he's screwing up. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #83

And, I have a different opinion than your Mom. Cha Jun 2013 #95

Exactly.. dotymed Jun 2013 #210

The President could erase many of the past policies with the stroke of a pen, yet SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #93

Fooled ya! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #48

Never naive enough to believe he'd be ABLE to end programs institutionalized before blm Jun 2013 #57

well i was never naive to think he would WANT to end them. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #67

Instead of change, we got more of the same ~ Business, as usual. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #61

IOKIYAD blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #64

I was wondering what the hell that stood for Autumn Jun 2013 #99

TeaLeft irrational purityism. 1 issue doesn't mean he is Bush. And no one is being listened in on. RBInMaine Jun 2013 #68

TeaLeft? burnodo Jun 2013 #71

Seriously. "TeaLeft", "Professional leftists", the "Where's My Pony?" brigade.... YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #80

Having principles Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #101

Speaking of almost seven years ago LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #176

One issue???? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #113

Yep, 100%! Lunacee_2013 Jun 2013 #75

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month in October 2008!!!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #78

So we trade our civil liberties so we can have more McJobs? davidn3600 Jun 2013 #81

You forgot about Sister Sarah already?? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #92

Ah yes.. and here's Glenn Greenwald on the bush.. he liked him better. Cha Jun 2013 #86

So his support of Bush on Iraq is damning, but Hagel's is reason to make him Sec of Defense, is that Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #97

Ouch! Cha hits a 3 pointer from the top of the key to tie the game in overtime. Zorra Jun 2013 #100

Except for Chuck Hagel, 'cause of some reason. And Comey..... Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #106

I simply didn't know that Greenwald supported the war. Zorra Jun 2013 #129

So Greenwald agreed with many mainstream Democratic Party contenders... bvar22 Jun 2013 #109

But loves Hagel, who voted for the war and is a Republican Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #115

Oh, they are getting quite desperate now, right CHA? LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #165

kr HiPointDem Jun 2013 #89

I first voted for Jenoch Jun 2013 #103

Ding! I have been saying this since the 2010 debacle. Doctor_J Jun 2013 #111

I rec'd because I'm mad abt this, but I'd still vote for Obama again. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #112

People like you and I aren't the problem, LadyBug Doctor_J Jun 2013 #119

Ava explains well the effect you describe Dragonfli Jun 2013 #133

Skittles said mine in post #9...this "news" is not "new", and I certainly witnessed 'teh ponies' bc LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #152

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #114

^^THIS^^ longship Jun 2013 #125

Agreed JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #219

I voted FOR Obama, not AGAINST anyone else. randome Jun 2013 #118

What outrage? aikoaiko Jun 2013 #120

My mother yesterday: Hissyspit Jun 2013 #139

I understand people's disappointment. aikoaiko Jun 2013 #171

funny, most of the apologists call it poutrage every time we Doctor_J Jun 2013 #178

Disenchanted E_A_ Jun 2013 #128

Power corrupts... Malik Agar Jun 2013 #137

He was bitten. rug Jun 2013 #144

LOL E_A_ Jun 2013 #154

People expected better from Obama but they got more of the same. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #145

How about them puppets? roundandroundwego Jun 2013 #157

I think that folks here are upset because they hoped that Obama was a liberal Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #177

Maybe they should have realized the government still remains in place? treestar Jun 2013 #161

Keep your substandard expectations for the United States to yourself DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #180

Why do I feel like scraping the Obama/Biden bumper sticker off my car? DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #185

If you want change, vote in the midterm elections nakocal Jun 2013 #186

A checklist of lies and propaganda memes Doctor_J Jun 2013 #212

2) "give him a more liberal congress to work with" bvar22 Jun 2013 #223

Yep, and besides that, we are not going to get 65 (D) senators and 260 Reps in the near Doctor_J Jun 2013 #228

I just read your post carefully Doctor_J Jun 2013 #229

If the Arkansas Primary of 2010 were an anomaly, bvar22 Jun 2013 #231

Sorry but this is false nakocal Jun 2013 #227

Many Voted for Pres Obama not once but twice mainly for change but Pres Obama YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #193

misleading statistic Enrique Jun 2013 #198

Anyone who thinks there is little difference between Obama and Bush are.. DCBob Jun 2013 #200

Obama is clearly much smarter than Bush. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #203

Blue links of change!! flvegan Jun 2013 #213

Americans aren't outraged. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #217

lessons from the 60`s under johnson-nixon... madrchsod Jun 2013 #220

People may be momentarily outraged but then...... Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #221

It would be naive to Believe the first African American... orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #226

McCain was and still is a goddamn warmongering lunatic. roamer65 Jun 2013 #230