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In reply to the discussion: The DemocraticUnderground can say things the Democratic Party cannot say. [View all]liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)114. luckily when I am filling out my ballot I don't give a damn what DU thinks.
I don't care what DU will or won't allow me to post. I am a free thinker, and I always vote with my conscience. My vote is my vote, and I don't give a damn what some would say about how I feel about Eric Holder.
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kentuck
May 2013
OP
If all that bubbles up from the underground is an affirmation of party talking points... idiocracy
Ed Suspicious
May 2013
#1
Basic fallacy at work - There is no monolithic opinion on all issues within the party.
leveymg
May 2013
#98
Explain the difference between "we should not veer too far from the Democratic Party talking points"
leveymg
May 2013
#134
"There is no monolithic opinion ..." but there are basic values and those basic values include
patrice
May 2013
#251
META. and I disagree with your post 100%. I myself back Eric Holder for SCOTUS. Wiki included here
graham4anything
May 2013
#2
Watch the language, please. It was uncalled for and definatelly way out of bounds....
marble falls
May 2013
#118
Which language would you prefer? In all fairness most of us speak english and remain unharmed.
Dragonfli
May 2013
#365
I hate to add another post agreeing with you but I must. Dont let it go to your head.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#309
Eric Holder is a prissy timid mouse who sucks lemons and is afraid of his own shadow
hootinholler
May 2013
#82
Right you are. The more sure of your outlook, the less you need to explain.
Eleanors38
Jun 2013
#493
Now where is that sarcasm tag....hmmm, not there. I was all set to get a good laugh out of that.
gtar100
May 2013
#375
I will ponder this statement and give it all the thought it deserves. Ask me again on Wednesday.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#462
Do you support Republicans being appointed to powerful positions in our government
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#468
That wasn't my question. It was a simply question actually, 'do you support Republicans in
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#473
So you support Bush's wars, torture and the Drug War then? Well, now I understand
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#485
Ron Paul voted FOR Afghanastan. Ron Paul did NOT sign onto Kucinich's impeach Bush
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#487
I don't think "we" do have the ability to disagree with one another, because you can't disagree with
patrice
May 2013
#247
good ?s.Then we can ask, 'who would you suggest the Pres. noms. for the position?'
Sunlei
May 2013
#15
And the only answer needed is 'not someone from the torture and invade crew'
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#31
She's the FBI lawyer who wanted to prevent a hijacking before September 11, 2001.
Octafish
May 2013
#100
ask her to fill out Pres. Os app for white house apointments. or ask if she did.
Sunlei
May 2013
#152
good thing I know enough to vote Dem and republicans are usually dangerous to the usa people :)
Sunlei
May 2013
#225
Republicans are dangerous to the usa and the world. That is why no one here would have
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#469
How could you not have noticed her? She tried to stop 9/11 from happening. She was
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#471
I asked you to be clear, you seem to be supportive of nomination of Bushco regulars
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#79
Sorry - Powell played a key role in the deception of Congress & the American people
bullwinkle428
May 2013
#94
you knew at the time? decades ago? and you don't know if there were serious questions asked then.
Sunlei
May 2013
#137
good thing McCain got "Palined" tm..that was the kiss of death along w Saturday Night Live Palin lol
Sunlei
May 2013
#228
Powell lied to the UN to get us into Bush's invasion of Iraq. He KNEW they were lying.
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#470
Powell's original claim to fame was covering up the My Lai massacre in Vietnam.
Fuddnik
May 2013
#160
even today the soil holds the agent orange and thousands of kids born w/ birth defects
Sunlei
May 2013
#231
So you support former Bushies. Now can you answer the question I asked, which is why
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#110
When I asked you why you support Bushies for new offices, you should have just posted
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#139
I don't call all republicans who were in office at the same time as bush 'bushies'
Sunlei
May 2013
#148
Well a Bush appointee is a Bushie, you can make up language to suit your shifing posts
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#163
And Sen Hilliary Clinton supported W's legislation that a lot of Republicans voted against ...
marble falls
May 2013
#136
Asking that we provide a specific name is absurd. It implies that there are no other
rhett o rick
May 2013
#308
Centralest & Liberals, Left of Center people. People with the welfare of common citizen more in mind
RC
May 2013
#39
He can't get ANY of his nominees confirmed. None of them. He went for liberal/progressive
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#42
He called for us to show up at the polls in 2010. That didn't work out so well. So, in your own...
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#223
Demoralized the party? And you're "The Party" now? You don't speak for me, and I've been a Dem....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#256
Well, if Maureen Dowd says it's so, then it must be so. This isn't about people feeling "let down".
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#282
Then what? The same backward teapartiers in the same gerrymandered districts will keep
appacom
May 2013
#307
Your implication is that all the good candidates are Bush's friends. Would you care
rhett o rick
May 2013
#195
I didn't say they were bushes friends. I think President O appoints people he trusts.
Sunlei
May 2013
#245
Yeah, because liberal Democrats that we want will sail through the nomination process.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#33
Of course WE can. Not just HE can! Not a dictator. Just the president.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#151
Frankly I don't give a shit. I have a right to use ignore. Don't like it. Tough!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#345
Oh wait. The racism card comes out. Did you alert? I'd be curious what a jury would say.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#198
Sexism and racism. Why bring up another person of color at all? Not all black people
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#203
Good grief. I agreed that the suggestion of balls or lack of is sexist. Hello.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#208
The post was not sexist or racist. It was criticizing Obama for his seeming unwillingness to
sabrina 1
May 2013
#349
I agree with you sabrina. It was definitely not racist. The poster was pointing out that Rosa Parks
rhett o rick
May 2013
#359
Hey L_S, aren't you glad that we have so many white people here to tell us what is and is not racist
Number23
May 2013
#452
Let me get this straight. He nominates conservatives because that's what will make
rhett o rick
May 2013
#196
Might be both, but the bottom line is that he can't get any of his nominees through. Do you have a
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#197
He has the right to pick whomever he wants. You're on IGNORE. Please leave me alone!
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#205
The Tea Party sure seems like it successfully dragged the Republican Party to the right.
stillwaiting
May 2013
#9
republican teas..they are republicans, a group funded by koch like his john birch society.
Sunlei
May 2013
#72
You make a point that should be hammered: We are NOT the Democratic Party.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#44
As a slight correction... you've overstated Holder's responsibility
ConservativeDemocrat
May 2013
#210
Eric Holder is a Wall Street, corporate shill! He could have busted a lot of crooks in NY and
Dustlawyer
May 2013
#14
It was not investigated b/c it would incriminate some of the same people that tell Obama what to do!
Dustlawyer
May 2013
#432
I like Mr. Holder, I think he's done a good job. I think it's the republicans who hate him.
Sunlei
May 2013
#16
oh, there are plenty of us democrats who don't like him. Medical marijuana patients and people who
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#128
I agree with you. But I do think that Obama has been the most liberal president we have had
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#47
I didn't say liberal. I said he's been the most liberal we have ever had. Since LBJ.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#61
In order to compete, you expected him not to form PACs, not to have large donors?
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#127
I supported Dennis Kucinich. He now is a commentator for Faux News. Who knew?
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#116
Just because you can say something doesn't mean that it's right or you should. nt
Pragdem
May 2013
#20
the first amendment is NOT absolute. There is no right to yell fire in a theatre not burning.
graham4anything
May 2013
#40
The point of the First Amendment is that people get to speak for themselves, even you
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#38
one cannot yell fire in a theatre or make terror jokes in an airport. It is NOT absolute.
graham4anything
May 2013
#41
Pro, you said the First Amendment is not about protecting those who criticize Holder
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#99
Propaganda is Fox and the media. Defending Eric Holder is American & the first amendment.
graham4anything
May 2013
#108
Huh??? I don't watch Fox. Fox/NRA is against Holder. No one else should be.
graham4anything
May 2013
#132
It was you who introduced FoxNews as part of your routine here, you wrote as if you
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#140
Those against Holder are regurgitating repudiated smears against Holder time and again.
graham4anything
May 2013
#142
What? That makes zero sense at all. You said what you said and you were wrong.
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#138
I think, act, and speak on my own behalf. I don't need DU to do that for me.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#37
So does that gusto you express mean that when Obama and Holder opposed equality
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#45
I think, speak, and act on my own behalf. The president supports marriage equality. He has directed
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#57
So basically what you are now saying is that you do not 100% agree with them and you
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#76
No. I expect others to have their own opinions and accept that mine are different from theirs.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#109
If you really want people to just accept your opinion, then you must do the same for them
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#175
How have I not accepted your opinion? I have stated TWICE that we agree to disagree.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#176
Your inaccuracy has to be addressed. You say DOMA is not enforced and that is false.
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#107
1. How has the attorney general enforced DOMA? Do you have evidence of that?
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#111
Thanks, but I don't believe anything Robert says. The fact that DOMA is before the court means
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#172
One more thing: DOMA is in the courts because a state SUED the federal government on the
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#174
K&R especially for all of the bullshit about how evil PO et al are. Dehumanization is PROPAGANDA. nt
patrice
May 2013
#266
Anyone that supports any political anything, 100% needs to step back and reanalyze things.
RC
May 2013
#63
I don't need to do anything but stay black and die! And I damn sure don't need advice from
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#64
Not blind loyalty at all. I criticize the president when he should be. I praise him when he does
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#321
Not only do you make assumptions about me, you are very condescending.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#424
I'm here because I want to be. I'm not here to force someone else to accept my opinions.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#434
Yes we need stand for truth and justice. We must also keep in mind what a mess things........
wandy
May 2013
#60
Around here it's "First they came for the Democrats..." and there's support for thinking so in
patrice
May 2013
#241
luckily when I am filling out my ballot I don't give a damn what DU thinks.
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#114
I agree. That's why I always say I'm more part of the Underground than the Democratic
johnlucas
May 2013
#165
In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place. - Gandhi
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2013
#173
+ an outright refusal to consider positive information and opinions, so that's what we do here,
patrice
May 2013
#234
I rec'ed your OP, because I feel like you are talking about both sides of the wars here at DU.
patrice
May 2013
#255
Uniformity is not possible nor desirable, so what is hypocritical to you can be another person's
patrice
May 2013
#259
Imagine the kind of president you'd like best dealing with these same issues in exactly the manner
patrice
May 2013
#285
Well, maybe that's because people are doing "middle of the road" wrong, pretending, instead of actua
patrice
May 2013
#292
Not all opposition is about reforming Democrats, some of it is about destroying Democrats, so
patrice
May 2013
#299
Stickier still, why was support of Charlie Crist(R/I) allowed over Meek(D) in 2010?
Dragonfli
May 2013
#373
IMO those that think I'm required to get on board with policies that I hate and have consistently
Dragonfli
May 2013
#378
I and others agree with you, but there are a signifigant number of DUers who don't and who want to
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2013
#216
Art V describes the process for amending the Constitution. It does not include adopting a statute
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2013
#258
Being intellectually free enough to address both sides of anything means being able to demonstrate
patrice
May 2013
#226
What are you not allowed to say that you think you should? No one except the Admins can shut down..
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#227
And I think you're full of crap. You've challenged the Admins, and sidestepped META in the process.
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#264
Thank God I'm not responsible for your feelings. Come on back anytime now, ya hear?
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#363
Thanks Bobbie Jo. You didn't get a response. Perhaps the poster should click the link & define
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#444
I hadn't seen that thread. But it further confirms what I already knew! They've taken over!
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#446
I'll just go ahead and put some Glad Wrap on this thread so you can take it home with you.
Number23
May 2013
#344
We know what some of this is about. Sadly, the teanutters didn't corner the market on "it".
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#355
I actually thought you were being exceptionally kind by calling them "educated."
Number23
May 2013
#369
You & the many Democrats who gave up caring about DU. I figure it like this....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#370
The strength of any position is enhanced by authentic valid recognition of the POSITIVES of
patrice
May 2013
#230
I've learned that the Democratic Party welcomes participation from all ideological perspectives
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#237
The site owners are doing the very same thing so many hate Obama for, only they are doing it in the
patrice
May 2013
#267
Honesty is preferable, so if Dem officials read this site, they will get a true picture of the
alfredo
May 2013
#246
Emphatic agreement. Hold their feet to the fire, hold them to FDR values.
Fire Walk With Me
May 2013
#260
Yes, but it's also true that listening means nothing if we can't WIN and I'm just not
patrice
May 2013
#275
Right-Wing Media's Fake Narrative About Rosen Warrant Now Even More Incoherent
ProSense
May 2013
#274
You don't think people should be angry about the fact that DU is partisan against Democrats?
patrice
May 2013
#289
I can understand that some people may not like the direction the Party is going...
kentuck
May 2013
#291
Free speech would be speech that doesn't acquire a benefit of any kind. I don't think we see that
patrice
May 2013
#295
yeah that's kind of mind boggling -- what you said should be about as controversial as praising
Douglas Carpenter
May 2013
#296
i'm guessing it's a kind of paranoia - "You are either with us or you are with the Republicans!"
Douglas Carpenter
May 2013
#302
Thanks for posting this "right-wingers in general are not welcome here."
Corruption Inc
May 2013
#314
It's not many people who support these Republican nominations, it's just a small group who
sabrina 1
May 2013
#342
PEOPLE ARE TOO AFRAID TO PROTEST .. AMERICAN ARE CHICKEN SHITES. NOT IN FRANCE !!
YOHABLO
May 2013
#339
"Hillary Clinton is not the best candidate for 2016" is the first thing that comes to mind.....
PennsylvaniaMatt
May 2013
#348
You can't be a Democrat unless you think Hillary Clinton is the best candidate for 2016??
kentuck
May 2013
#356
The best post in this thread!! Thank you so much! I am relieved that the "Democrats" on DU are not
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#427
Not pained by "this place" at all. Again, I come here to enjoy fruitful discussion. TO DISCUSS...
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#433
The Label-Maker gets so much work here he can now put his kids through college!
Number23
May 2013
#453
The Father Knows Best wing vs the left has been around since the inception of DU.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#478