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In reply to the discussion: Do smoking bans apply to e-cigarettes? [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)"We have clean air laws that form the basis of the public bans."
Do you think those clean air laws were made up out of thin air or were they justified? DuH. Those "clean air laws" were justified when they were enacted. Nobody came into the legislative session and said "hey, I think we need clean air laws, lets just arbitrarily make it X". No, standards were developed. Its up to those that wish to prohibit e-cigs in public, to make their case to what ever legislature they happen to be lobbying, that e-ciggs surpass those standards. Good luck with that. If what you want instead of that, is for standards to be lowered so that e-cigs cross the threshold, then you make your position and what your position is based on quite transparent.
"We don't have to make NEW laws to ban these things. Everything is in place with our preexisting clean air laws, and tobacco bans from public spaces."
Everything may be in place to ban them, but not to justify it.
That's what you want right? A ban without scientific justification that meets well established external harm parameters.
I mean...that's what you're arguing against here, needing justification to ban them. You don't think any should be needed.
Of course, you go up in front of any legislature with a handful of bias and 5 year old studies, and those of us who disagree with you point out that all you have are bias and 5 year old studies, and point out other studies which show, like the clean air one I linked you for example, and what do you think is going to happen, eh?