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In reply to the discussion: RESIDENTS OF OCOTILLO AND BOULEVARD SPEAK OUT, SHARE SAFETY FEARS AFTER TURBINE BLADE FALLS [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)225. well..some of us are for it
But prefer it not be in the hands of big oil for starters that it uses blade less systems...they exist, more efficient even. And are not blind tote problems of centralized wind and energy production
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RESIDENTS OF OCOTILLO AND BOULEVARD SPEAK OUT, SHARE SAFETY FEARS AFTER TURBINE BLADE FALLS [View all]
nadinbrzezinski
May 2013
OP
The chances of a broken turbine hitting a local house and causing injury are very slim. nt
ladjf
May 2013
#4
If you have a point, I missed it. Do you feel that the turbine shouldn't have been erected
ladjf
May 2013
#8
Those are ALL things that can be discussed and are reasonable to take into consideration.
MNBrewer
May 2013
#45
It fell on a trail. If this had been daytime on this public land popular with off-roaders
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#294
Hell, I've got eight of them less than a mile from my house, and other homes are much closer...
Scuba
May 2013
#6
Alternative calculation - yields a maximum theoretical range for the blade of about 275m
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#249
she said they don't move, but this one decided to throw itself at someone
Rise Rebel Resist
May 2013
#287
it looks like she is claiming a broken turbine can fling a blade up to a mile away.
Kali
May 2013
#74
ok, this is MAJOR speculation, because I don't really know WTF she is refering to...
Kali
May 2013
#284
This one is a terrible threat to almost 4 million people in the city of Toronto...
SidDithers
May 2013
#94
But where's the gargoyle, perching on the blade? OMFG, invisible gargoyles!!!! n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#102
Nadin - Houses are less than 1/2 mile from turbines; another blade flew 3/4 of a mile in Boulevard.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#291
There are hundreds, if not thousands of radio towers/TV towers littering our cities and suburbs
titaniumsalute
May 2013
#421
Houses are less than a half mile away, and another blade locally flew 3/4 of a mile.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#289
you have posted claim that several times with no links or evidence - got anything?
Kali
May 2013
#295
The "editor" links to "windaction.org" which is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group:
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#347
No. Another blade most certainly did NOT fly 3/4 of a mile. WTH do you get this crap?
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#419
"Siemens issued a statement indicating it has suspended operations worldwide of the failed turbine
Brickbat
May 2013
#2
Could we have a journal citation? A link to the technical report? n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#129
"We do not yet have controlled, peer-reviewed studies that nail down exactly how many people are
winter is coming
May 2013
#149
"Just starting the research" *is* science-speak for "we can't prove shit".
winter is coming
May 2013
#155
I'm not repeating industry talking points. Unlike you, I have some understanding of science.
winter is coming
May 2013
#164
still - I'd rather live underneath a wind turbine than live 50 miles from a nuke plant......
piratefish08
May 2013
#41
Would you like me to provide the information about all the horrific things that batteries can do
jeff47
May 2013
#196
Nowhere in the link you keep providing does it indicate actual, proven cancer clusters
MNBrewer
May 2013
#184
I guess that's the science part, right? You see a cluster, decide the cause, and research it?
Buzz Clik
May 2013
#270
Nadin, "yeah, but PBS sez....." is not a definitive argument for anything
Canuckistanian
May 2013
#315
Seems like at least half of the people in this thread are on your ignore list.
winter is coming
May 2013
#323
No, no it's not. This is a discussion forum and it's rude to shout on the Internet.
winter is coming
May 2013
#72
No, I'm telling you that DU is not a newspaper. If you've got time to cut and paste an article,
winter is coming
May 2013
#86
This is General Discussion, and the LBN title rule says *nothing* about fonts.
winter is coming
May 2013
#126
What is petty and egotistical is ignoring netiquette that's been convention for decades. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#159
A title that spans two lines is a lot more offensive than something only three words long.
winter is coming
May 2013
#165
I find it annoying to see OP titles in all caps because it's like shouting. This one was
winter is coming
May 2013
#355
well I am confused because you just posted in the thread I linked below and as of 1:05 PM
hrmjustin
May 2013
#357
Does that title span two full lines in your browser? It doesn't, in mine.
winter is coming
May 2013
#358
Two lines are egregious. One, I don't care for but might not complain about.
winter is coming
May 2013
#360
The reason I bring it up is because you have seemed to make Nadin your cause and I just want
hrmjustin
May 2013
#362
Or mabye it is Nadin and people can't let that pass by without comment. This poster was not
hrmjustin
May 2013
#380
The words, yes, but there's no requirement to use the same font/style. Oy. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#117
Since the article you link/copynpasted was written by you, seems you could modify it for DU.
uppityperson
May 2013
#146
Yes, wrong. Maybe you're using some different, non-CSS definition of "style sheet", but
greyl
May 2013
#337
Wind turbines are not very efficient and are subject to failure like the article describes. Wind,
byeya
May 2013
#95
Thanks for that information. Concentration and monopolization are preferred by large corporations
byeya
May 2013
#111
I remember driving with my father through California and seeing over a hundred of these
hrmjustin
May 2013
#110
You got crickets because the idea is so dumb the audience was shocked into silence.
MindPilot
May 2013
#204
Thanks, you are correct. I've been reading this thread with amusement watching the ignorance about
sabrina 1
May 2013
#339
Wind's EROI (Energy Return On Input) is something like 50. Tar Sands? Something like 5....
Junkdrawer
May 2013
#176
Nothing is perfect, but for myself I would rather have a wind farm close by than
Cleita
May 2013
#185
But turbines can't poison the water table, so where's the thrill of risk?
winter is coming
May 2013
#193
Tar sands will give a return on investment faster...assuming YOU don't have to pay....
Junkdrawer
May 2013
#200
Wind energy isn't as impact free as its proponents would like you to believe...
badtoworse
May 2013
#190
To most experts, though, there's a problem with the bird-mortality argument:
HiPointDem
May 2013
#201
Even that estimate is only about 1% of the mortality attributed to lighted communication towers.
winter is coming
May 2013
#207
ROUNDUP is being sprayed now at wind farms including Ocotillo. The AGent Orange active ingredient.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#293
Astroturf (plastic grass). First used at the now demolished Astrodome and other enclosed stadiums.
freshwest
May 2013
#413
Note, that in a DUzy-like moment of serendipty, the following OP was listed right below this one:
winter is coming
May 2013
#212
If you want renewable generation that is not owned by big energy companies...
badtoworse
May 2013
#229
Nadin: That link of yours is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group:
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#342
We need wind generated electricity but we need the safest possible. 1500 accidents in the past 5 yrs
byeya
May 2013
#351
"When one of the blades failed in a windstorm a part of the blade traveled over a mile."
winter is coming
May 2013
#356
This is from the Caithness Windfarm analysis of accidents involving these structures, March, 2013
byeya
May 2013
#361
I'm looking through their website and have downloaded the file giving details of incidents.
winter is coming
May 2013
#365
Okay, here's a report summarizing tornado activity in Kansas last year:
winter is coming
May 2013
#367
I would expect people, or a group, who either opposes something or wants change of some sort to
byeya
May 2013
#366
That's not a bad place to start, but taking the word of an interested party at face value
winter is coming
May 2013
#368
Since this Caithness group puts the events in such detail, I would wait and see what the industry
byeya
May 2013
#371
Saying the blade traveled a mile without mentioning it happened during a tornado is fearmongering.
winter is coming
May 2013
#374
He said "pieces" of blade - so not the whole blade. I can see it falling and cracking and particles
sammytko
May 2013
#384
If the blade has been reduced to "particles" then we also need to worry about broken glass
winter is coming
May 2013
#387
No but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps to mitigate against a technology that can be
byeya
May 2013
#393
If indeed this is the one mile incident, then the site should have clearly stated it happened in
byeya
May 2013
#392
There's a file you can download from the Caithness website, describing the incidents.
winter is coming
May 2013
#394
I dunno, but there's nothing there but the building and a tall wooden fence to the right.
winter is coming
May 2013
#388
Lots of pics here at this facebook page for the ocotillo project - no small house
sammytko
May 2013
#400
There are in this picture. Nowhere near it but it is the best I can find in the set.
uppityperson
May 2013
#417
So those 53m blade appear in the photo about the same size as a 1m window
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#402