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ellenfl

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58. fascism is corporatism which tends to be financial in nature.

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Mon May 13, 2013, 09:14 AM

May 2013

both philosophies were used politically.

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Why do conservatives claim that Hitler was a leftist? [View all] AProgressiveThinker May 2013 OP

They desperately do not want to be associated with Fascism and Nazism because they know stevenleser May 2013 #1

Indeed AProgressiveThinker May 2013 #3

Wasn't it President Paul von Hindenberg? derby378 May 2013 #9

Hitler was made Chancellor by Hiddenburg Drale May 2013 #18

This. But to add they believe that their ideology is pure el_bryanto May 2013 #65

This ^ n/t Prophet 451 May 2013 #68

And let's not forget that conservative American businessmen gave rise to the Nazis. Initech May 2013 #97

For the same reason they propagate other lies. silverweb May 2013 #2

Projection AgingAmerican May 2013 #4

Hitler was by no means a socialist Canuckistanian May 2013 #5

Yes, right wing socialism exists AProgressiveThinker May 2013 #10

Was there ever such a society? Canuckistanian May 2013 #15

America in the early 20th century loyalsister May 2013 #79

wasn't Charles Lindbergh one of the prominent American eugenics supporters? /nt Dragonfli May 2013 #87

Yes and an environmentalist loyalsister May 2013 #90

How does corporatism = socialism demwing May 2013 #51

Socialism is a financial system. Fascism is a political system. You can be both. Ian David May 2013 #12

fascism is corporatism which tends to be financial in nature. ellenfl May 2013 #58

Okay, maybe. Ian David May 2013 #60

sorry, not arguing the rw governance, just that people often ellenfl May 2013 #61

Socialised production to benefit an elite ISN'T socialism. I don't think socialism means what YOU HiPointDem May 2013 #72

i was defining fascism, not socialism. the ruling class in the countries mentioned ellenfl May 2013 #98

No, you can't. Socialism is an economic system which by its nature disallows fascism. Fascism HiPointDem May 2013 #73

Got it. n/t Ian David May 2013 #74

Because they are morons. Old and In the Way May 2013 #6

Why do conservatives claim anything? Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2013 #7

Because he was a bad man who did what they secretly want to do Warpy May 2013 #8

Obamacare was invented to save Hitler's brain! nt onehandle May 2013 #11

It worked! (now Hitler is pissed) Dragonfli May 2013 #89

Conservatives and projection go together like flies and you know what. marmar May 2013 #13

It's a convenient misunderstanding of the party name magellan May 2013 #14

NSDAP moondust May 2013 #16

You can't just highlight part of the name and expect it to mean something. stevenleser May 2013 #19

I know that. moondust May 2013 #21

if you don't understand that, check out some of the rw pac/tea party names. eom ellenfl May 2013 #59

Which of the policies are you refering to? TampaAnimusVortex May 2013 #92

Just prop words. defacto7 May 2013 #33

Equating any modern mainstream party to the Nazis is ignorant, stupid and offensive. (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #17

on the other hand, Hitler didn't exist in a vacuum demwing May 2013 #52

And not only that, but....... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #91

So we're supposed to be able to smell the death camps before...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #93

They are not there yet. Nye Bevan May 2013 #96

Because they are morons. Hitler killed leftists, liberals, & communists. He was a rightwing nut job. JaneyVee May 2013 #20

Because a) some of them are that stupid Rex May 2013 #22

because hitler has a bad reputation. unblock May 2013 #23

You'd think with Hitler's rep for killing gays, socialists and liberals magellan May 2013 #46

i'm not saying they disagree with his policies, only that it's bad advertising for them. unblock May 2013 #67

The word "socialist" is part of the Nazi party's name. Deep13 May 2013 #24

That's what I was going to say too laundry_queen May 2013 #32

Well it was certainly an activist government by today's standards Recursion May 2013 #39

More powerfuL?? I think it was more that most governments of the 30s eridani May 2013 #44

That's what I said Recursion May 2013 #45

Because they have no clue what the National SOCIALIST Party stood for. kestrel91316 May 2013 #25

Because the Nazis called themselves "socialists"--and every right winger "knows" Lydia Leftcoast May 2013 #26

This ^^^^^^^ treestar May 2013 #62

Just ask any loud-mouthed Republican Mr.Bill May 2013 #27

Because Hitler was about the evillest guy anybody can think of, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #28

Hitler was a Conservative Authoritarian. Dash87 May 2013 #29

Except Stalin wasn't a leftist, either Scootaloo May 2013 #53

Stalin was a leftist. Hitler was far-right. Dash87 May 2013 #57

Stalin, as Lenin, believed and practised State Capitalism. Democracyinkind May 2013 #69

THey are so far to the right even Atilla the Hun seems too left Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #30

They just want to distance themselves. abelenkpe May 2013 #31

If you keep repeating the same thing defacto7 May 2013 #34

Conservatives project ArcticFox May 2013 #35

Check out the Ludwig Von Mises Institute... Agnosticsherbet May 2013 #36

I think it might be worth removing the beam from our own thread first... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #43

Curious biblical refernence. Agnosticsherbet May 2013 #83

That this thread is full of people who cannot believe Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #84

Yes, there are a few here. There are totalitarian mass murderers on both the left and the right. Agnosticsherbet May 2013 #85

I don't. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #86

The US has drifted far enough right that some Rreich economic policy is to the left of us now Recursion May 2013 #37

Ignorance. Stupidity. They're liars. Zoeisright May 2013 #38

Left and right are nonsense labels. David__77 May 2013 #40

Because they're liars. Jamaal510 May 2013 #41

Because on some issues he was. Look up e.g. his welfare policies. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #42

His welfare policies were basically Bismarck's welfare policies eridani May 2013 #47

purely military infrastructure. Democracyinkind May 2013 #48

For Keynsian purposes, infrastructure is infrastructure eridani May 2013 #49

military spending is a form of public consumption Democracyinkind May 2013 #50

Bismarck implemented the first "old age pensions" Kolesar May 2013 #55

"Volkish equality" was not leftist policy Scootaloo May 2013 #54

The early NSDAP did have a number of "leftist" position points... JHB May 2013 #56

Exactly this. backscatter712 May 2013 #64

great post... also Democracyinkind May 2013 #70

You said it yourself MattBaggins May 2013 #63

For the same reason they think Iraq had WMD, Downtown Hound May 2013 #66

Because they hear the "Socialist" part of "National Socialist Party" Arkana May 2013 #71

Rewriting history /nt War Horse May 2013 #75

Same reason vampires don't like mirrors sarisataka May 2013 #76

Because they don't know their butts from a hole in the ground. That's why. Zen Democrat May 2013 #77

Nazis merged with monarchists to have power rest in one individual. That's how they paint Obama. SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #78

Because.. LeftishBrit May 2013 #80

because conservatives and especially repugs seem to lie a lot samsingh May 2013 #81

Jonah Goldberg Taught Them To, Sir The Magistrate May 2013 #82

because he was a conservative arely staircase May 2013 #88

No clue damnedifIknow May 2013 #94

Because WILLFUL MISINTERPRETATION is what the do emulatorloo May 2013 #95