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101. That's ok. I think your article was more current anyway. nt
Sun May 5, 2013, 03:55 AM
May 2013
It's a bleak day when health care is considered leftist. rug May 2013 #1
that's the fabulous Overton Window--it doesn't just have acceptable margins, but also a neat little MisterP May 2013 #27
You have that right. Owl May 2013 #43
Yes it is nt Progressive dog May 2013 #77
? child labor laws, child protective services, workplace safety, living wage, employee bargaining, merrily May 2013 #112
Because everyone gets sick. It's a human issue. rug May 2013 #211
All the issues I mentioned are human issues. They still all have been considered left issues. merrily May 2013 #212
And that's the nub of it. rug May 2013 #215
As I posted downthread, if you minimize or dismiss the left, then you can easily minimize any merrily May 2013 #218
promoting the interests of poor and working class interests.... tomp May 2013 #266
Do you know the original refrain of The Internationale? rug May 2013 #268
Healthier people would be worse off, sicker people would be better off Recursion May 2013 #2
It's not a zero-sum game. Lasher May 2013 #4
No it isn't Progressive dog May 2013 #79
so it *is* a zero sum game. HiPointDem May 2013 #105
It doesn't *need* to be, but as I'm reading this proposal it is Recursion May 2013 #192
And if we had a government that cared about the people, rather than private Corporations, we sabrina 1 May 2013 #189
For profit education, healthcare, retirement and prisons abelenkpe May 2013 #201
There is nothing Obama won't do to appease Republicans. I expect by 2016 forestpath May 2013 #3
Sometimes I think he might as well wear red! n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #5
Well, that is the Republican party's color. forestpath May 2013 #7
Good point! Some days I wonder ... I'm really getting fed up with it all ... a no win situation. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #9
Party names are rapidly becoming irrelevant. merrily May 2013 #116
Same product, sulphurdunn May 2013 #161
Sadly, though, it works. merrily May 2013 #164
I know how you feel. sulphurdunn May 2013 #171
I did as well, and donated more than I could afford, too, but, as Obama said, merrily May 2013 #173
Yes, what a fool. randome May 2013 #191
I could respond to each of those points, which are not as portray them. merrily May 2013 #200
'Tis you who have no facts. randome May 2013 #206
If you want to go in circles by repeating stuff that made no sense the first time, you are on your merrily May 2013 #209
What landmark legislation? sulphurdunn May 2013 #264
That's like saying sulphurdunn May 2013 #257
They didn't control it enough to stop filibusters. randome May 2013 #263
It's cute that you think the government of the most powerful country on the planet runs like a Marr May 2013 #269
Sure. I agree, sulphurdunn May 2013 #270
+1 CrispyQ May 2013 #221
It comes of the system we have Scootaloo May 2013 #275
He did, in the '80s. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #84
Are you referencing his comment that his policies would, in the 1980s, have been considered those of merrily May 2013 #115
He appeases them without getting anything in return CreekDog May 2013 #62
It is not a negotiation if it is what you want. nt tsuki May 2013 #71
+1000 blkmusclmachine May 2013 #85
+ 1,000,000 cantbeserious May 2013 #109
+1984 jsr May 2013 #184
+1000 GoneFishin May 2013 #220
Oh, he'll get plenty ($$$)in return - in his post-Presidential years! Divernan May 2013 #136
For the tremendous services rendered, his net worth will outrank Bill Clinton's jsr May 2013 #194
It's not the Republicans so much as the oligarchs that both parties work for. MrSlayer May 2013 #67
That's it in a nutshell---none of them really give a damn about us. virgogal May 2013 #76
Truth. (no text) Quantess May 2013 #107
I am glad we have a no move Teabagger Congress. I will be glad when Obama is gone. Katashi_itto May 2013 #110
Obama is a symptom, not a cause. merrily May 2013 #114
Agree, 3rd/DCCC way is killing us. Katashi_itto May 2013 #125
So is the DSCC. In fact, they are all killing us. merrily May 2013 #128
The groups infect us. I am not sure if it can be fixed really. Katashi_itto May 2013 #137
It can be fixed. Likelihood of that happening, however, is a different question. merrily May 2013 #139
Well, if it has a low likelihood of happening, its not a fixable thing. Katashi_itto May 2013 #141
Likelihood is relative. Impossiblity is absolute. merrily May 2013 #143
Oh no, I will keep voting, and am not going anywhere till I finish my Masters Katashi_itto May 2013 #163
Even after you leave the country, though, vote. merrily May 2013 #166
Pity, about her vote. No I plan on always voting. Katashi_itto May 2013 #177
Yeayyyy! merrily May 2013 #181
He promised entitlement reform before his first inauguration. merrily May 2013 #113
Ah yes, marginalizing concerns by dismissing them as from the "left." Warpy May 2013 #6
are you talking about the professional left? Phlem May 2013 #12
No, the drug taking left. merrily May 2013 #123
Eventually, a lot of politicians are going to find themselves part of a huge stir fry. Even the RKP5637 May 2013 #13
+1. HiPointDem May 2013 #106
In order to marginalize concerns by characterizing them as from the left, they first had to merrily May 2013 #119
The biggest mistake the dems made was backing away from the word 'liberal' CrispyQ May 2013 #223
Funny you should say that. merrily May 2013 #230
I've read it before & it's a beautiful speech. CrispyQ May 2013 #237
Yep. I hope you don't mind another anecdote, since you merrily May 2013 #244
Thanks for the link. Bookmarking to look at later. CrispyQ May 2013 #251
No need to look at the link unless you are curious. merrily May 2013 #253
Gotta pay for the Pentagon's release from the sequestration somehow! MotherPetrie May 2013 #8
Ugh... Phlem May 2013 #10
I'm even starting to question the moderate part. n/t A Simple Game May 2013 #20
I hear that! Phlem May 2013 #69
+1 --nt CrispyQ May 2013 #225
A world of delusion out there. earthside May 2013 #11
Frankly, they are only in touch with $$$$$ in USA, Inc., where each day people count less. This RKP5637 May 2013 #14
You got THAT right! nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #16
Thank God I grew up in what is now being called "America's Golden Era", whathehell May 2013 #74
In part, the post war years worked so well for Americans because merrily May 2013 #124
In part, yes, but also because whathehell May 2013 #135
I think you may have misunderstood. I never said people did not do well in 1955. merrily May 2013 #142
Well, actually, you said this: whathehell May 2013 #176
First, "not necessarily" were key words. Second, I said all three things merrily May 2013 #179
Gee..Hostile much? whathehell May 2013 #226
? I wasn't hostile at all. We're not communicating and I don't know why. merrily May 2013 #236
Unlike the others who responded to my post, you did seem defensive & then hostile to me, but, whathehell May 2013 #248
Well said! I grew up too with the same thoughts and RKP5637 May 2013 #140
Thanks...You know, I never thought I 'd be glad to be whathehell May 2013 #150
I consider myself to be one of the most fortunate human beings to ever have lived on this planet. CrispyQ May 2013 #229
Yep. whathehell May 2013 #233
I'm so disgusted with politics. CrispyQ May 2013 #228
I'm fed up with it too and I've lost respect for many of RKP5637 May 2013 #232
why does that chart stop at age 54? Skittles May 2013 #28
You really don't want to see the data for... paleotn May 2013 #262
"see millions and millions of 65-plus year old Americans in abject poverty... bvar22 May 2013 #44
Consider this scenario. sulphurdunn May 2013 #169
They don't care. Not one bit. CrispyQ May 2013 #235
Why not REPEAL the provision that prevents Medicare from negotiating drug prices? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #15
Because they are all owned by big pharma. pangaia May 2013 #19
Yep, none want to rock the boat of big $$$$$ flowing into big pharma. The whole RKP5637 May 2013 #22
Great idea but negotiation may not be possible after the Trans Pacific Partnership passes. pa28 May 2013 #23
Finally, some much needed laughter this morning! CrispyQ May 2013 #240
To the contrary, Medicare for all would be the best way of dealing with health care in this country. merrily May 2013 #129
Violation of chess rule jsr May 2013 #198
Okay...we expected better...but, the Sh*t hit's the fan once again........ KoKo May 2013 #17
It's The Hill, octoberlib.. they like to start shit. Cha May 2013 #18
What if the "shit" is true though. It often turns out to be...these days..doesn't it? KoKo May 2013 #56
I think you're right , Cha. octoberlib May 2013 #100
Congress does not seem responsive to our calls anymore. White House either. merrily May 2013 #117
And cue the rationalizers . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #21
you forgot "you're a known O hater" bbgrunt May 2013 #26
Oh, right -- "You never loved him" markpkessinger May 2013 #29
He's roping the dopes, emoprog! WorseBeforeBetter May 2013 #33
That one, too! markpkessinger May 2013 #36
I can't wait for the Crap Blogs to be trotted out in defense. WorseBeforeBetter May 2013 #47
Loving or liking him is required by law. tblue May 2013 #45
My personal favorite. Puglover May 2013 #183
see #25 Skittles May 2013 #30
LOL markpkessinger May 2013 #32
well.....yeah, I believe you are correct Skittles May 2013 #40
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #122
How could you forget, "would you rather have McCain, er check that, I mean Mittens?" nm rhett o rick May 2013 #37
How could I have forgotten that? markpkessinger May 2013 #41
You forgot, "You NEVER adored him!" Safetykitten May 2013 #38
Cue you to try and shut down discussion. This being a discussion board and all. Cha May 2013 #42
I'm not trying to shut down the discussion . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #54
Oh Mark, wickerwoman May 2013 #46
Oh, right. markpkessinger May 2013 #52
now "You're shutting down the discussion!" Union Scribe May 2013 #92
I'm not sure either, but I will endeavor so to do! markpkessinger May 2013 #94
Respectfully, rationalizers on message boards are not cutting OASDI or Medicare. merrily May 2013 #126
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. jsr May 2013 #187
You never really loved him!! QC May 2013 #213
It's been too, too long! pecwae May 2013 #259
Howdy! n/t QC May 2013 #260
This entire subthread reads like Bobbie Jo May 2013 #246
FAR to the right of Reagan Doctor_J May 2013 #24
I would pay attention to this ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #25
And, it's the Hill.. known to start shit in my experience.. and, of course, Cha May 2013 #39
+1 Raine1967 May 2013 #57
Again..."The Hill" catches a Buzz and more often than not what they buzz KoKo May 2013 #59
"Sources say..." "Leading activists say..." "Correspondents say..." randome May 2013 #50
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. OnyxCollie May 2013 #60
Ouch! randome May 2013 #131
That's enough for some. Let 'em rage.. maybe channel it into actually Cha May 2013 #63
Thank you 1StronBlackMan. defacto7 May 2013 #83
Is the proposal in writing? merrily May 2013 #130
Not only is it not in writing, it's year-old 'news'. randome May 2013 #132
If something is being "floated," I would not expect the details to have been worked out merrily May 2013 #134
Understood. randome May 2013 #154
No, I am not the one who pointed out there was no link. merrily May 2013 #157
And after more than 4 years, no cuts have been made. randome May 2013 #196
What part of my prior posts did you not understand? merrily May 2013 #199
Yeah, but you also insisted he'd never offer to cut Social Security. Marr May 2013 #216
Yup, this OP is the worst kind of drivel. gulliver May 2013 #238
And I wonder Why?- ruffburr May 2013 #31
Thank you -- superb rant! n/t markpkessinger May 2013 #34
They believe workers are peons tblue May 2013 #49
There Would Be A Cap? grilled onions May 2013 #35
I find it disturbing Savannahmann May 2013 #48
Is there to be NO acknowledgment by Obama/Congress of the recent complete discrediting of austerity? HomerRamone May 2013 #51
Austerity is not, in reality, about doing what's best for the 99% MannyGoldstein May 2013 #80
Sing it! merrily May 2013 #133
Not really. The Democratic Party is supposed to be the center party. limpyhobbler May 2013 #53
There's center and then there's center. merrily May 2013 #138
This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ May 2013 #243
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #55
I'm usually leary.... ReRe May 2013 #58
He has not changed boats. He has wanted all along to cut what he calls entitlements. merrily May 2013 #152
Finally, the Republicans will know they can trust us MannyGoldstein May 2013 #61
It's just us left leaning Democrats who want octoberlib May 2013 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author loudsue May 2013 #64
Mr. Hope n' Change strikes again DerekG May 2013 #65
You don't know Phlem May 2013 #70
This is better? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #81
He didn't fool me; I voted for Jill Stein DerekG May 2013 #207
You don't know what would have happened if Romney had been elected. merrily May 2013 #155
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #66
You would think.... blackspade May 2013 #68
They were invited to buy our party. merrily May 2013 #160
I feel ill. AAO May 2013 #72
You better dig out your wallet, then. merrily May 2013 #162
Why do you say that? AAO May 2013 #202
If no one wants to pay much for treatment, being ill is going to cost everyone money. merrily May 2013 #204
You who need it most? He would scatter you to the four winds. "Fend for yourself." nt Poll_Blind May 2013 #73
It was also mentioned in the NYT on 3/28 octoberlib May 2013 #75
Thanks - I didn't see the NY Times article LeftInTX May 2013 #82
That's ok. I think your article was more current anyway. nt octoberlib May 2013 #101
"See! I can be a Republican too!" MannyGoldstein May 2013 #86
he wants them to want him Skittles May 2013 #91
He is simply being a New Democrat. merrily May 2013 #146
Today's democratic platform more closely resembles the republican platform of the 1950s, CrispyQ May 2013 #241
Well, merrily May 2013 #247
I found a few things. The second looks like it is from an insurance industry site. LeftInTX May 2013 #78
Another reason to invest in a long term care policy.... Historic NY May 2013 #88
That works for people who can afford it, have no pre-existing conditions and are younger. merrily May 2013 #172
The only elections BHO cared about are in the rearview mirror. Might as well let the real self out. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #87
Whoever has Obama's ear is harming him, us and our future. SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #89
I'm thinking it's a different part of his anatomy that someone has ahold of. WinkyDink May 2013 #120
Ear schmear. Obama is not a puppet. merrily May 2013 #185
if Eric Cantor came up with the idea Enrique May 2013 #90
Is the precise way of tucking it to seniors, the disabled and the prematurely orphaned important? merrily May 2013 #188
another anti-Obama post. Quaintly noted. BTW, doctors make too much money for a 6 hour day. graham4anything May 2013 #93
"teachers should make more than doctors" = WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?! WinkyDink May 2013 #121
who taught the doctor but his teacher graham4anything May 2013 #147
Also as a teacher how much was your whistler162 May 2013 #151
Old news that DIDN'T HAPPEN. jazzimov May 2013 #95
Please be cautious Summer Hathaway May 2013 #97
I wonder where this blogger from the Hill got her information. octoberlib May 2013 #99
Oh, those naughty senior advocates, trying to prevent something like this! merrily May 2013 #167
yes.. much ado about nothing. DCBob May 2013 #111
I remember when people used to say that about the absence of a public option from Obamacare. merrily May 2013 #168
not me. DCBob May 2013 #175
Never said you and it didn't have to be you for the point to be valid. merrily May 2013 #180
You expected a change in Medicare to become law in six weeks? merrily May 2013 #159
I did not vote (& work my ass off) for this shit! Faryn Balyncd May 2013 #96
Au contraire, that seems to be exactly what you did. merrily May 2013 #170
So can we steal the Tea Party "Hands off my medicare" sign? alp227 May 2013 #98
Lol. I think we better. nt octoberlib May 2013 #102
.... DeSwiss May 2013 #103
Reread reply #1. democrank May 2013 #108
What would be the POIINT of "Medicare," then? Does Obama want to sink Hillary? WinkyDink May 2013 #118
hillary? let`s worry about next year.... madrchsod May 2013 #127
I doubt it, but I sure hope someone sinks her. merrily May 2013 #174
I'm heaven05 May 2013 #144
JCoaS OKNancy May 2013 #145
tell heaven05 May 2013 #148
that isn't going anywhere either OKNancy May 2013 #149
i hope heaven05 May 2013 #153
I looked and Foxnation and the Hill are the only places where this is OKNancy May 2013 #165
Thanks. I appreciate your voice on this thread. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #186
'Beneficiaries 'pay something for Home Health Care'??? They DO, sadly since this entire sabrina 1 May 2013 #208
Please see Replies 188 and 159. merrily May 2013 #190
pish posh OKNancy May 2013 #203
Actually, that is exactly what it means. You can tell that if you read the entire article. merrily May 2013 #205
as I wrote... we will see OKNancy May 2013 #210
As my reply 159 states, damage has already been done. merrily May 2013 #224
It's unfortunate fredamae May 2013 #156
The assets of the nation and of individuals comprising the 99% are merrily May 2013 #193
I've grown to embrace fredamae May 2013 #217
"I wish for someone to prove I'm wrong." merrily May 2013 #222
At this juncture I can neither fredamae May 2013 #231
Thank you, fredamae. merrily May 2013 #250
Thank you as well-tho this fredamae May 2013 #258
I am not sure that I am what I've been waiting for, but I agree it will take work on our parts. merrily May 2013 #265
They can't.... paleotn May 2013 #245
Excellent post. CrispyQ May 2013 #249
We don't need to feel bad fredamae May 2013 #274
I'm leaning left sulphurdunn May 2013 #158
Well as long as we can keep those bases open in Germany ctsnowman May 2013 #178
Whatever happened to solving fiscal deficitis by RAISING TAXES? Octafish May 2013 #182
When corporate profits and corporate cash reserves are at an all-time low? jsr May 2013 #197
We need to flood the mail and phones. JNelson6563 May 2013 #195
Tell me the last time that worked to affect anyone's vote or the White House. merrily May 2013 #234
You can give up, I'm not. JNelson6563 May 2013 #261
I am not giving up, either. Just not wasting time on things that have been proven useless. merrily May 2013 #267
Not enough do to make it matter. JNelson6563 May 2013 #273
Privatizing Medicare pmorlan1 May 2013 #214
It's already happening. At my employer (a hospital no less) AllyCat May 2013 #219
The subsidies are substantial flamingdem May 2013 #242
That will not be us, even after management bends us over in bargaining. AllyCat May 2013 #271
I'd say keep researching, the plans are supposed to be online this month flamingdem May 2013 #272
"as a way to reduce the deficit" AgingAmerican May 2013 #227
No, it's been Obama's, the DLC's and the Blue Dog's ideology paleotn May 2013 #239
Why are we still spending millions on nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan? Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #252
This is how the elite siphon the Treasury. CrispyQ May 2013 #255
If it floats ThoughtCriminal May 2013 #254
This is what happens ProSense May 2013 #256
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