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graham4anything

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78. This is one of those threads where indeed, Marx's vocal words were 100% correct
Sun May 5, 2013, 01:41 AM
May 2013

Harpo Marx.
My lips are sealed.
Mom told me if I don't have anything nice to say...

du rec. nt xchrom May 2013 #1
I don't know how anyone can see how working people Starry Messenger May 2013 #2
+1 newfie11 May 2013 #4
Krugman, 2008: Hoocoodanode, part a zillion Fumesucker May 2013 #3
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth May 2013 #5
sig line baldguy May 2013 #6
Ha! Ha! As has been said for 100 years, Charlie Whiskers made a lot of mistakes, but he got byeya May 2013 #7
Utterly ridiculous that people STILL believe this religious bullshit about a benevolent upper crust. HughBeaumont May 2013 #8
'The Pathology of Wealth' is how Michael Parenti labeled the phenom. Octafish May 2013 #15
Marx was not an idiot, unlike his few remaining admirers. gulliver May 2013 #9
Let's see if you can get past kindergarten level name-calling and specifically tell us which TBF May 2013 #10
The notion of an historical dialectic is discarded for a reason Recursion May 2013 #11
Yes, Marx never could disassociate his thoughts from Hegel. Fortunately, he was able to wall byeya May 2013 #16
blame that on Hegel not Marx. nashville_brook May 2013 #22
pray tell what is that reason? and pray define 'dialectic'. HiPointDem May 2013 #40
Because it presupposes a necessity in history Recursion May 2013 #45
i'm asking for *your* definition. HiPointDem May 2013 #47
Depends on the author I'm using it in context of Recursion May 2013 #50
the attempt of the other to hide its difference from the self, and the self's attempt HiPointDem May 2013 #51
Phenomenology: the manifestation is not the thing Recursion May 2013 #58
still not sure how it jibes with your remark about progress - & necessity. HiPointDem May 2013 #60
Well that's the needle to thread with Marx, isn't it? Recursion May 2013 #120
Ooofaaah alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #68
ha. cute Recursion May 2013 #83
I notice the OP channels Sarah Palin. gulliver May 2013 #14
how's that? HiPointDem May 2013 #41
Sarah Palin was channeling Dr. Phil JVS May 2013 #59
+1 graham4anything May 2013 #82
Kind of reminds me of people who used to cheer for an Iraq invasion and Marr May 2013 #20
Like Andrew Sullivan. closeupready May 2013 #49
care to elaborate rather than just throw stones. tomp May 2013 #12
Todays Marxists share much in common with Republicans gulliver May 2013 #17
more meaningless name-calling. you have no critique. HiPointDem May 2013 #42
i agree. nt tomp May 2013 #116
Marx was familiar with Babbage. Starry Messenger May 2013 #24
I think you are making my point. gulliver May 2013 #26
No, I'm not making your point. Starry Messenger May 2013 #27
Babbage himself didn't grasp it, only Ada Lovelace did Recursion May 2013 #37
I'm not talking about the programming, but the intended function and Babbage's economic theories Starry Messenger May 2013 #38
that person doesn't know anything about marx or even history. pretty obvious from his comments. HiPointDem May 2013 #43
That's kind of what I was thinking too......... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #52
I'm burning to post this, so I'll reply to you with it: Starry Messenger May 2013 #53
I don't get the 'marx couldn't have forseen computers' thing anyway. I don't see how computers HiPointDem May 2013 #93
I don't see it either, but I'm guessing that the claim might be something... JVS May 2013 #114
that makes sense. the 'we're all entrepreneurs now!' argument that accompanies the destruction HiPointDem May 2013 #122
I don't either, but more than one person has said it here. Starry Messenger May 2013 #115
Especially when we consider that for most people the computer is a consumer good, not a capital good JVS May 2013 #117
Hmmmm....makes me wonder how much you know about Marxism Taverner May 2013 #118
K & R ctsnowman May 2013 #13
Lenin was wrong, very wrong. Marx got a lot of stuff right. bemildred May 2013 #18
marx was racist? according to world net daily, free republic, and town hall. HiPointDem May 2013 #44
And his disparaging comments about the "negroid charactetistics" of some critics? Recursion May 2013 #46
1) check out those comments in the marx-engels archive & if you find them read the entire HiPointDem May 2013 #48
He was far from the worst, and not particularly overt about it. bemildred May 2013 #64
actually, he wasn't 'just as steeped in' those things at all, because someone who was steeped HiPointDem May 2013 #65
Yeah, yeah, you like Marx, I already got that. nt bemildred May 2013 #66
nothing to do with whether i 'like' marx. it's what the historical record shows. HiPointDem May 2013 #67
It's your opinion, which seems to amount to that he was not as bad. bemildred May 2013 #69
it's my opinion based on reading everything he wrote about race and every comment in his HiPointDem May 2013 #71
Good. nt bemildred May 2013 #72
ps: as for your comments about hegel: HiPointDem May 2013 #73
Yeah, yeah, you like the Gish Gallop too, I already noticed that. nt bemildred May 2013 #74
don;'t even know what gish gallop is. why so snarky? is it because you don't like to have HiPointDem May 2013 #75
Look it up. You got a lot of nerve accusing me of being snotty. nt bemildred May 2013 #103
You've been totally owned in this subthread. Democracyinkind May 2013 #84
sublimely owned datasuspect May 2013 #88
Oh good, another mind reader. nt bemildred May 2013 #97
Yeah, because "Marx was a racist" was not in your post, but your mind... Democracyinkind May 2013 #100
He was. That's an opinion too, yes? He has lots of flaws, just like anybody. nt bemildred May 2013 #102
He has? I guees you meant had. Democracyinkind May 2013 #104
HiPoint demonstrated poor reading skills and a propensity to think quantity beats quality. bemildred May 2013 #106
How many 19th century Democracyinkind May 2013 #107
You think that's what racism is? Who you let your kids marry? nt bemildred May 2013 #108
It's a part of it. Democracyinkind May 2013 #109
Indeed it is, it speaks well of him too, but it does not mean he is not a racist. nt bemildred May 2013 #112
it's not this person's opinion datasuspect May 2013 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author Democracyinkind May 2013 #90
Right. nt bemildred May 2013 #98
Which is a vast mountain of opinion and interepretation built on a molehill of fact. bemildred May 2013 #99
You're in for a "all history is opinion" treatment. Democracyinkind May 2013 #105
"all history is opinion" bemildred May 2013 #111
K&R. Overseas May 2013 #19
For the benefit of the few libdude May 2013 #21
+1. HiPointDem May 2013 #95
marx merely memorialized another method of control galileoreloaded May 2013 #23
please link me to the part in his work where he discusses this new system of control. HiPointDem May 2013 #32
lol. you have all you need. n/t galileoreloaded May 2013 #56
iow, you can't. HiPointDem May 2013 #62
got me! galileoreloaded May 2013 #63
yes, i know. to paraphrase yeats, one can't compete with the shameless. HiPointDem May 2013 #70
prefer Shopenhauer galileoreloaded May 2013 #113
ya sure you betcha HiPointDem May 2013 #123
Have you read Marx? Democracyinkind May 2013 #85
Well. since I've started REALLY analyzing everything..... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #25
Almost everything the Soviets said about Communism was a lie ThoughtCriminal May 2013 #28
This is very close to my thinking on Marx stevebreeze May 2013 #110
Underestimations all around Half-Century Man May 2013 #29
Per the Article, the Claim that Marx Was Mostly Wrong On the Road May 2013 #30
"Marx's ideas on how to build a government and run and economy." = which 'ideas' are those, HiPointDem May 2013 #31
To the Best of My Knowledge, Marx's Contribution in Those Areas On the Road May 2013 #33
thus he promoted few to no ideas about how to run a government or economy. HiPointDem May 2013 #34
If You're Arguing That Marx Had No Prescriptions On the Road May 2013 #35
"His positive comments on the role of merchants and industrialists in overthrowing monarchies" HiPointDem May 2013 #36
Perhaps the US today is a model of "Marxist government." David__77 May 2013 #77
good point. all those formerly revolutionary demands are now commonplace, thought of as HiPointDem May 2013 #94
So you're going to argue that capitalism could appease the working class...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #54
K&R idwiyo May 2013 #39
Any system that is hanging on due to a sense of morality is bound to fail, as the human capacity... JVS May 2013 #55
Wow, I love your comparison. David__77 May 2013 #76
Marx was wrong about the worker's revolution. It's never happened and never will because they're too craigmatic May 2013 #57
oh i don't know....i think it was marx and engels' position that the revolution would be global HiPointDem May 2013 #61
when collapse happens what will reign will look galileoreloaded May 2013 #131
This is one of those threads where indeed, Marx's vocal words were 100% correct graham4anything May 2013 #78
you go, word-salad man!!!! HiPointDem May 2013 #79
You mock salad while drinking 48 ounce sugar drinks.Salads are wellness.Wellness saves money. graham4anything May 2013 #80
Here I come to save the daaaaaayyyyyyy! HiPointDem May 2013 #81
Nothing nice to say, nothing to say. Democracyinkind May 2013 #86
I am not an Ayn Rand or Rand Paul or Ron Paul fan. That's what Marx is.It don't work. graham4anything May 2013 #89
Marx was a fan of Ayn Rand and Rand Paul? Democracyinkind May 2013 #91
don't you know it's the other way around. It is the basic tenet of the Paul racist libertarians. graham4anything May 2013 #96
"Marx is the basic tenet of the Paul racist libertarians" Democracyinkind May 2013 #101
Summing up Democracyinkind May 2013 #92
Kick Blue_Tires May 2013 #119
Not so much wrong as uselessly irrelevant bhikkhu May 2013 #121
"old dead guys aren't much good at guiding policies for current problems" JVS May 2013 #124
That's a big underestimation of what "much worse" can be bhikkhu May 2013 #125
yeah antique ideologies like democracy, constitutionalism, liberal economics.... HiPointDem May 2013 #126
From those three perspectives, I'd give the president an A- overall bhikkhu May 2013 #128
you're confused. this thread isn't about the president's performance. HiPointDem May 2013 #129
Marx has no better or more effective ideas bhikkhu May 2013 #133
What Marx didn't grasp was the power of television and I-Pads to opiatize the masses. leveymg May 2013 #127
Just thought I'd mention that the The Communist Manifesto is available on Librivox War Horse May 2013 #130
In 2008, 50% of the world lived in urban areas. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #132
You are correct that we are not there yet - TBF May 2013 #134
Well, the western capitalist societies are the best, most decent and most prosperous ever. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #135
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