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pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
65. How many of them have narcissistic parents displaying them on TV?
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:17 PM
May 2013

I think this mother was just as nutty as the reality TV type parents -- just wanting attention for herself and her kid.

different strokes datasuspect May 2013 #1
+1 Buzz Clik May 2013 #2
Yes get the red out May 2013 #7
Well. sibelian May 2013 #3
Ah, the moronic parents who forced their son to wear a dress. Nye Bevan May 2013 #4
This is the one kid who actually needs a real gun as a toy. cbdo2007 May 2013 #11
Golly! Orrex May 2013 #13
What the fuck? Can you explain? morningfog May 2013 #26
I lol'd nt ecstatic May 2013 #122
Why do you assume the boy was forced? The article says that he wore both "boys" and "girls" clothing Luminous Animal May 2013 #95
The boy was trying to please his parents. Who knows what he really thinks? pnwmom May 2013 #115
This is not 'gender neutral' parenting. Wait Wut May 2013 #5
Correct... Pelican May 2013 #6
My daughter who is three and a half and her friend who just turned five were playing on Tuesday snooper2 May 2013 #8
This kid was being turned into a science project and a political statement pnwmom May 2013 #59
I agree. Adsos Letter May 2013 #75
I agree. So if he wanted to play with GI Joe, that wasn't allowed. Only a ball or whatever. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #140
I agree. She was leading him, not letting him make those choices on his own. Arkansas Granny May 2013 #10
I agree. HappyMe May 2013 #15
not doing anything is gender conforming, not gender neutral. unblock May 2013 #17
And encouraging him to hide his gender when among other people pnwmom May 2013 #107
Exactly n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #112
I had a little boy friend when I was six who liked to come over Cleita May 2013 #18
Oh, I remember a sad incident. At craft store I was looking at colored markers when a Mom & son came KittyWampus May 2013 #21
He probably felt like I did when... Wait Wut May 2013 #24
Now to me marions ghost May 2013 #36
Really? That is child abuse? blueamy66 May 2013 #178
Wow yourself marions ghost May 2013 #182
So you think that not allowing a child to have a certain color is child abuse? blueamy66 May 2013 #185
I think marions ghost May 2013 #187
My wife loves it when I wear pink shirts. madinmaryland May 2013 #111
I agree...the kid really wasn't choosing what to do or wear... joeybee12 May 2013 #32
+1 That isn't gender-neutral. That's alternating-gender-stereotype. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #41
My two and a half year old daughter Dorian Gray May 2013 #51
I agree. This is anything but "gender neutral" parenting... hlthe2b May 2013 #71
Hopefully she pays for mental health treatment for her son throughout his life. cbdo2007 May 2013 #9
Ridiculous marions ghost May 2013 #16
He WAS forced into an artificial gender role, much more than the rest of us. cbdo2007 May 2013 #20
toddlers do not, or at least ought not, rule the roost. unblock May 2013 #28
Watch this video of his mother coaching him on the correct answers to her questions. pnwmom May 2013 #116
parents "coaching" their religious views onto their kids is far more damaging. unblock May 2013 #145
Your approach is entirely different from that mother's, because you were child-focused. pnwmom May 2013 #146
We don't know that he was forced marions ghost May 2013 #30
They admitting they forbid certain items for being "too masculine" joeglow3 May 2013 #37
presented to him marions ghost May 2013 #53
When this particular gender roles transgression is concerned, encouragement = force. redqueen May 2013 #48
Right marions ghost May 2013 #52
Do you really think this mother was just encouraging him? pnwmom May 2013 #117
I think this kid Jenoch May 2013 #132
Good grief marions ghost May 2013 #133
When I implied that this kid Jenoch May 2013 #134
Your biases are showing marions ghost May 2013 #139
I did not mean to imply Jenoch May 2013 #143
Most of us agree that a 5 yr old doesn't need a gun. blueamy66 May 2013 #179
How about marions ghost May 2013 #183
I give up blueamy66 May 2013 #186
+1 nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #49
Are you seriously saying THAT would trigger a mental illness? Neoma May 2013 #78
Of course, lots of seemingly insignificant stuff from people's childhoods that trigger cbdo2007 May 2013 #80
And that gives you the right to assume mental disorders? Neoma May 2013 #85
Wait, where did I say that?? cbdo2007 May 2013 #88
It doesn't sound like he's been bothered by it. Neoma May 2013 #90
HAHAHAHAHAHA cbdo2007 May 2013 #96
Kids play dress-up all the time. They do do this. Neoma May 2013 #98
You can stop arguing with me, I already said you won and this is completely normal behavior cbdo2007 May 2013 #99
I'm not arguing for it mind you. Neoma May 2013 #100
Oh good grief. cbdo2007 May 2013 #102
Being involved in the mental health world changes perspectives on these matters. Neoma May 2013 #104
We're both "involved in the mental health world" but each brought a different perspective... cbdo2007 May 2013 #105
But saying automatically this child will have problems? Neoma May 2013 #108
"you as the patient, me as the provider's office" JTFrog May 2013 #142
The children of narcissists are FAR more likely to seek mental health therapy pnwmom May 2013 #154
That would be another thing entirely, and I'm not assuming that of her. Neoma May 2013 #160
Yeah. Just like all those years I spent in therapy LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #130
Frederick II. Robb May 2013 #12
Child abuse question everything May 2013 #14
Is this a joke? marions ghost May 2013 #19
But they did exactly that joeglow3 May 2013 #40
I don't think we know marions ghost May 2013 #46
You didn't read the whole thing. The mother encouraged him pnwmom May 2013 #61
well, according to the reporter, anyway fishwax May 2013 #144
I think the explanation is that he was only allowed to play with gender neutral toys pnwmom May 2013 #147
dressing a boy in pink is child abuse? good grief. unblock May 2013 #22
Telling him to hide that he's a boy couldn't have been good for him. pnwmom May 2013 #63
wait, now i'm supposed to let mini-unblock run around naked outside??? unblock May 2013 #86
They didn't say he had gender neutral clothes gollygee May 2013 #31
I read this thread before reading the article Ms. Toad May 2013 #161
Yep. Some people need to take a moment and consider why they're having over-the-top reactions. redqueen May 2013 #190
You have an extremely light threshold for child abuse Scootaloo May 2013 #91
This was already posted on DU over a year ago. These parents aren't... Poll_Blind May 2013 #23
ah my bad, On the page by the headline was today's date.. snooper2 May 2013 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy May 2013 #25
These "parents" seem to have taken open-mindedness to the level of TheManInTheMac May 2013 #27
She made a child, her own child, a social experiment AngryAmish May 2013 #29
ALL kids are social experiments marions ghost May 2013 #33
not to this extreme they aren't. cali May 2013 #35
I beg to differ marions ghost May 2013 #38
Not the good ones. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #66
Not making a good/bad judgment marions ghost May 2013 #82
I would be critical of that kind of parenting, too. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #83
All narcissists are bad parents, no matter what particular agenda is driving them. pnwmom May 2013 #151
yes narcissists make bad parents marions ghost May 2013 #158
Yup. And there are too many parents who are narcissists, who USE their children pnwmom May 2013 #149
Most are more severe, actually Scootaloo May 2013 #93
+1,000,000 LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #138
thank you +++++ marions ghost May 2013 #141
All narcissists do great damage to their children. pnwmom May 2013 #150
Butbutbut... he's a BOY... and he was ENCOURAGED to do GIRL things! redqueen May 2013 #39
No, he was made to pretend that he wasn't a boy. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #42
LOL. No. redqueen May 2013 #43
"...Beck was resolute and encouraged him to play with dolls to hide his masculinity." Wait Wut May 2013 #54
Well said. HappyMe May 2013 #58
That is not a quote, is it? redqueen May 2013 #60
Wow, okay. Wait Wut May 2013 #68
LOL, I see you're quite good at spinning, yourself... you sure did a good job there. redqueen May 2013 #72
Awwww... Wait Wut May 2013 #73
Uh, ok? Tabloids write copy in such a way as to rouse the maximum amount of rabble. redqueen May 2013 #74
Oh yes. Wait Wut May 2013 #77
I don't pretend to know her motives. redqueen May 2013 #81
Ironically they will make him more gender-conscious than if they had Bonobo May 2013 #156
Says the woman who continually cites "blogs" as sources... opiate69 May 2013 #196
There's nothing gender neutral about a ballerina costume complete with tinkerbell wings. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #101
That's not true. morningfog May 2013 #173
In what language is "ballerina" not gendered? lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #174
It what world is a cut of fabric gendered? morningfog May 2013 #175
My underpants are pretty gendered AngryAmish May 2013 #204
You could try crotchless panties. morningfog May 2013 #205
I have. AngryAmish May 2013 #206
my problem with this has jackshit to do with that cali May 2013 #56
I agree that they're unclear on the definition of 'neutral', I just don't see that as a good reason redqueen May 2013 #57
+1 MadrasT May 2013 #62
I've read a few of these stories. Never read one in which mom was hiding her daughter's sex. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #103
My parents dressed me in boys' clothing, cut my hair very short, and actively discouraged femininity MadrasT May 2013 #159
It is one thing to expose your child to a variety of interests. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #170
They referred to me by my gender neutral name MadrasT May 2013 #177
Good post. Thanks for your perspective. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #180
If I were girl who liked being a girl MadrasT May 2013 #181
"I was a person first" marions ghost May 2013 #189
"it was clear that girly clothes were literally costuming" YES! What an important message! redqueen May 2013 #191
First - there are not many parents who do this Ms. Toad May 2013 #163
That's not the issue at all. pnwmom May 2013 #152
How many of them have narcissistic parents displaying them on TV? pnwmom May 2013 #65
I can see why you say it's reality TV marions ghost May 2013 #94
And a significant number of parents who are "turning" their children into violinists pnwmom May 2013 #106
OK you know more than I do apparently marions ghost May 2013 #109
Here's a youtube of the boy, being coached by his Mom. pnwmom May 2013 #113
It does say he wasn't forced marions ghost May 2013 #120
When he did it, I think I was kind of shocked pnwmom May 2013 #123
OK but marions ghost May 2013 #129
The fact that she referred to the boy HappyMe May 2013 #110
Me, too. What an oddly detached way to refer to Sasha. pnwmom May 2013 #126
I was just going to say the same thing Dorian Gray May 2013 #157
You might want to spend some time Ms. Toad May 2013 #167
I agree that it might be problematic Dorian Gray May 2013 #171
I was basing it mostly on the mismatch between her words - Ms. Toad May 2013 #172
It's good to have the perspective of someone Dorian Gray May 2013 #176
I think the point of hiding his gender Ms. Toad May 2013 #165
I view a religious upbringing of any kind, an extreme social experiment. Luminous Animal May 2013 #97
Eerily similar to the "Vagina Pillows" sketch on Portlandia: (VIDEO) Poll_Blind May 2013 #44
I honestly expected this to be in The Onion deutsey May 2013 #45
I don't know about this BainsBane May 2013 #47
This is the opposite of parenting. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #50
I agree. Owl May 2013 #125
If they truly ever had to deal with an actual physical gender isuue they might know how wrong. gordianot May 2013 #55
I think using your kid to try to make a socio-political statement, sucks. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #64
My parents did pretty much the same thing to me except they did not keep my biological sex a secret MadrasT May 2013 #67
I wonder why we don't see him in any stereotypically "boy" clothes in those pics Orrex May 2013 #69
Tell me again WTF this was supposed to accomplish tularetom May 2013 #70
They did not decide he was gonna be a girl marions ghost May 2013 #92
I think she was thinking about it all too hard. Kids will come into their own, all american girl May 2013 #76
Mom is a narcissist, forcing her "enlightenment" on a poor child. Throd May 2013 #79
blatant neglect and abuse galileoreloaded May 2013 #84
i think what the parents did was Stupid at worst but the kid will be fine since JI7 May 2013 #87
I think these parents are just like the "idiot sports parents" pnwmom May 2013 #118
how about parents who tell their kids to be nice to everyone ? JI7 May 2013 #119
It depends. If they're doing it narcissistically -- in order to make their kids perform -- pnwmom May 2013 #124
More recently there was baby Storm. Quantess May 2013 #89
Here's a youtube of the boy being coached by Beck pnwmom May 2013 #114
I think the real question is: will he grow up to beat women, or be beaten by them? Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #131
Humans are funny creatures... nomorenomore08 May 2013 #121
i think some of the reactions are worse JI7 May 2013 #127
They're certainly nowhere near as bad as a lot of parents. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #128
Yeah, just have weird views on shit... snooper2 May 2013 #162
Yeah, weird. But not so awful in the grand scheme of things. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #168
I think you're misunderstanding people's objections here. pnwmom May 2013 #148
most kids that young wear what their parents want them to JI7 May 2013 #153
This isn't about his clothes or his toys! pnwmom May 2013 #155
They encouraged him to hide his masculinity? That's not neutral. KentuckyWoman May 2013 #135
I did find that implication somewhat troubling. Although at least they're letting him "be a boy" nomorenomore08 May 2013 #136
People are so freakin' weird about gender. Obsessive even. nt Lex May 2013 #137
My company does fantasy makeup and facepainting... Demo_Chris May 2013 #164
interesting... marions ghost May 2013 #194
Were the parents gender neutral as well? marshall May 2013 #166
It's not cross-dressing marions ghost May 2013 #188
The kneejerking response to this story is so VERY revealing. redqueen May 2013 #192
It is.... marions ghost May 2013 #193
The photo shows the child wearing a tutu and beads marshall May 2013 #195
They said when he went out the kid was dressed gender neutral--pants and shirts marions ghost May 2013 #198
I was referring to the parents when I mention cross-dressing marshall May 2013 #200
I think you missed the point marions ghost May 2013 #201
Maybe they will write a book marshall May 2013 #202
Yeah reasonable questions marions ghost May 2013 #203
Stupid parents LittleBlue May 2013 #169
Ok, it's the Sun. But I don't see anything 'gender neutral' portrayed here War Horse May 2013 #184
I'm confused about the point. LWolf May 2013 #197
Read the story marions ghost May 2013 #199
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