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In reply to the discussion: Noam Chomsky on the role of sports in propaganda-based authority [View all]joshcryer
(62,265 posts)69. I merely do not like broad brush caricatures of something that isn't there.
I do not interpret being dismissive or actually critiquing as being "stung." If you do, that's your prerogative, but I think you won't get very far by being so sensitive to such types of responses. For your caricature to be true then we'd have to water down the definition of "stung" to be almost meaningless.
I actually agree with Chomsky's observation, and if you read my comments in the thread you'd know that. I merely adapt it in my own way, and embrace this sort of thing, as it can go either way, and I don't think even Chomsky believes in absolutes (the video is cut short as he elaborates).
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Debord's "critique" of the spectacle is the issue, not Chomsky's woefully lacking adaptation.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#30
What?... Debord's critique of "the spectacle" is interesting... but it isn't... timely
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#103
The "problem" I have with sports isn't the sports... it's the assholes who want to co-opt sports.
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#70
How does South Africa winning the Rugby World Cup after the end of apartheid underscore anything?
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#77
I would assume that the end of apartheid was a preferrable outcome and that...
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#80
I'm curious to hear an elaboration of your theory of Chomsky's attribution to mass manipulation...
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#82
It seems to me that a "technologist" would have to agree with Debord's critiques...
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#116
Uhhm, I have a favorite football team, I'm not a fan of football... and I don't have to see a game..
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#93
I guess I wasn't clear... I'm not only not interested in paying for his sports books...
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#105
Or, maybe I don't feel the compunction to read authors solely based on your recommendation...
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#114
"Stealing ideas from"? These ideas are uncontroversial, not unique, and shared by many socialist...
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#115
Hehe... there is only as much insult there as you choose to bring. Feel free to call me overbearing
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#23
Chomsky comes off as a sad little man scowling at anything that causes anyone any amount of joy
Muskypundit
Feb 2012
#25
Nah, it's not a particularly unique observation, he just uses US-centric examples.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#27
I see one post in this entire thread (currently 33 posts including this one) that appears "stung."
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#33
I think the effects of sports are a convenient by-product for the powers that be...
rucky
Feb 2012
#35
“Eternal boyhood is the dream of a depressing percentage of American males, and
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#49
Hehe... methinks that, if you don't need locker rooms... the quote doesn't apply to you.
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#108
I wonder what the reaction to this post would be if it was after the World Cup. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#50
I'm curious too... my reaction would be exactly the same... but, not being "everyone"... I remain
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#111
Between sports and religion, I'd say mass mind-control has been refined to fine art. n/t
backscatter712
Feb 2012
#52
"Not to gloat, but Japan won and the country is electrified!" - Bonobo, July 17, 2011...
SidDithers
Feb 2012
#54
That link actually makes no material reference to the poster known as Sid Dithers.
LooseWilly
Feb 2012
#110
Oh me? Sorry no. I assumed YOU did because it would be consistent with your views RE Libya.
Bonobo
Feb 2012
#89
Ahh, I thought you felt the "authoritarian commodity fetishists" were preparing for that.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#92
That kinda thing tends to happen when you call people "hypocrites" behind their backs, dude. nt
Bonobo
Feb 2012
#96
I'm so glad there are smart people like Noam Chomsky to tell me what I should or shouldn't like.
TheManInTheMac
Feb 2012
#123