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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #75)

Fri Apr 26, 2013, 04:43 PM

76. The constitution also doesn't say anything about self-defense either.

The question we are discussing is whether "gun rights" are a progressive value or not.

Also, the justice department did not find that there are 1.5 million self-defense uses of guns. Here's the study you are referring to. You probably want to read it before just tossing out random statistics.

http://home.uchicago.edu/~ludwigj/papers/JQC-CookLudwig-DefensiveGunUses-1998.pdf

You are trying to equate "defensive gun uses" with "lives saved by guns" which is preposterous. Most so-called "defensive gun uses" are actually arguments that escalate into violence where "the other guy started it". Thing George Zimmerman. By all hard measures of the benefits versus harms of guns, the harms are greater by an order of magnitude. The 30,000 gun deaths per year are actual dead bodies. On the other hand, there is no evidence at all that owning a gun, or carrying a gun, or trying to use to defend from a crime has any statistical safety benefit at all.

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