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ProSense

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63. You know this

Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:15 PM

Apr 2013

"Further, I would insist that Obama-Bush, by giving $1.74 trillion in tax cuts to the top 19% and only $111 billion in tax cuts to the bottom 20% will obviously increase the inequality in our society. "

...is nonsense.

Your entire point is ignoring the fact that the income tax is progressive, and then claiming that because a gap still exists it's "increasing the inequality."

Nonsense, if a policy causes the gap to be closed by even $1, it's not "increasing the inequality."

The President's policies did more to address inquality than any in decades.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10022660715

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What If Bush Had Done Nothing? [View all] ProSense Apr 2013 OP

k&r... spanone Apr 2013 #1

Great piece. K&R Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2013 #2

k and r Berlum Apr 2013 #3

Dubya did not "break the back" of the American dream - that's just hyperbolic nonsense. reformist2 Apr 2013 #4

What I found most interesting about that era, was that there was one Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #17

I do not agree. The OP is not that far off. Bush/Cheney did much damage brush Apr 2013 #30

I do deny it, fully. What Dubya did was bad, but our national recognition of it has made us stronger reformist2 Apr 2013 #34

Ever heard of the word "delusional"? nt brush Apr 2013 #35

Where is this "wisdom" of which you speak? progressoid Apr 2013 #46

huh?? I understand learning from failure but.. DCBob Apr 2013 #49

I couldn't disagree more. Boomerproud Apr 2013 #87

that sounds like the spin, not the reality usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #102

Except it wouldn't need to be rebuilt if he hadn't fucked it up in the first place. NYC Liberal Apr 2013 #110

it was definitely a few nails in the coffin though NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #31

Nixon started it... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #107

Sure feels that way to me MirrorAshes Apr 2013 #79

he was some kind of tipping point yurbud Apr 2013 #109

Yes what if madokie Apr 2013 #5

In that same vain, Gore would have won the election and bu$h II would never have been President. RC Apr 2013 #6

Gore would have won the election AlbertCat Apr 2013 #26

vein AAO Apr 2013 #88

Hey, I live in a Red State, what can I say? RC Apr 2013 #90

Unlike others on various "worst presidents" list, Bushco rurallib Apr 2013 #7

"actively destroyed government in every aspect"? He didn't even try to cut Social Security. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #96

What if Obama had done something? OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #8

Are you serious? mercymechap Apr 2013 #9

Are you done now? OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #12

Well, I have to agree with you mercymechap Apr 2013 #45

IMO "mercymechap" dotymed Apr 2013 #16

+100 Myrina Apr 2013 #23

exactly-- where was the ATTEMPT? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #32

He took an oath to defend the US Constitution. He broke it long ago... AAO Apr 2013 #89

Really? With Republicans coming after him even mercymechap Apr 2013 #52

What really would have been the point? jmowreader Apr 2013 #15

it would have helped restore America's credibility! NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #33

The only thing that scares those fuckers is a tax increase jmowreader Apr 2013 #38

yes, agree NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #43

You really think you can scare Republicans? mercymechap Apr 2013 #47

I could not disagree with you more. It would have been a exercise in futility. olegramps Apr 2013 #25

The status quo must be maintained at all costs. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #27

There is always ProSense Apr 2013 #57

Fuck that stupid bullshit. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #58

No, fuck the "stupid bullshit" that is that comment. ProSense Apr 2013 #59

Where did I lie? OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #60

I guess ProSense Apr 2013 #62

Can't defend Obama's actions, I see. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #65

What, ProSense Apr 2013 #67

Why should I? OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #69

That's OK ProSense Apr 2013 #70

You've provided a lot of entertainment in this thread. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #71

Funny ProSense Apr 2013 #72

You're so cute when you're angry. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #74

Thanks, ProSense Apr 2013 #75

IMHO sheshe2 Apr 2013 #86

Quit whining and alert it! N-t Logical Apr 2013 #93

I already did! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #94

So the jury voted it was ok I assume? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #95

Three three sheshe2 Apr 2013 #97

Post the results. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #108

Nobody's "whining".. she's calling out his personal attacks on ProSense. Cha Apr 2013 #100

You've added nothing but bully attacks. Cha Apr 2013 #101

You got nothing DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #84

Yes, ProSense has everything in the OP. The topic of conversation. Cha Apr 2013 #91

And you have what? sheshe2 Apr 2013 #99

Your pretend boyfriend? sheshe2 Apr 2013 #104

Why don't you alert then? OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #105

you lost when you threw sniveling personal attacks at ProSense. Cha Apr 2013 #76

You are correct, but doubt she will listen! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #92

spin control usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #103

If he had done nothing he would have been assassinated BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #10

If Bush had done nothing, his name would have been President Al Gore. nt madinmaryland Apr 2013 #11

What if Bush had never been elected? JEB Apr 2013 #13

He was imposed not elected Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2013 #83

In the corner: Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #14

K & R Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #18

Word Order matt819 Apr 2013 #19

Good catch. Agreed. nt brush Apr 2013 #36

We would be a lot better off treestar Apr 2013 #20

Great Speculation but... humbled_opinion Apr 2013 #21

Heh heh..."bagheads" ...heh heh! Stardust Apr 2013 #114

What's their response to the latest finding by that wunderkid (Thomas Herndon, I think) who has Stardust Apr 2013 #115

He basically did ... nothing. He took an 8 year vacation while Cheney was president. Myrina Apr 2013 #22

too bad about that bullsh*t line hfojvt Apr 2013 #24

Whatever it takes to get and keep RepubliCONs out of power xtraxritical Apr 2013 #28

I don't want to keep Republicans out of power hfojvt Apr 2013 #39

But wait! mercymechap Apr 2013 #50

but if you don't fight their bad ideas hfojvt Apr 2013 #51

But he has tried to fight mercymechap Apr 2013 #55

Obama NEVER proposed anything more progressive than hfojvt Apr 2013 #56

I don't get your point. NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #29

no, that is exactly wrong hfojvt Apr 2013 #37

well, I guess I suck NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #42

the 73% is from the 99% hfojvt Apr 2013 #48

You know this ProSense Apr 2013 #63

I just love those Republican arguments hfojvt Apr 2013 #68

sorry, I've read your posts a couple times and I still am not sure what your main point is NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #116

it seems to "make sense" to you hfojvt Apr 2013 #117

I understand the problem of inequality and NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #118

yet you seem just as happy hfojvt Apr 2013 #119

how do you know how happy I am about that? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #120

oh I don't know hfojvt Apr 2013 #121

What if all those trillions of dollars went to education...? whttevrr Apr 2013 #40

Much of it still can, once we take it back from the plutocrats Coyotl Apr 2013 #106

If that were ever to happen... icarusxat Apr 2013 #113

Indeed, America and the world would be a much much better place.. DCBob Apr 2013 #41

Then there was the Orwellian stuff... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #44

The regulation of financial markets was largely destroyed before he even took office. n/t hughee99 Apr 2013 #53

you mean if he hadn't let ***** take the towers down in the first place? librechik Apr 2013 #54

"electing Bush twice"??? grasswire Apr 2013 #61

Iraq might have gone on to become a greater influence in the Middle East. randome Apr 2013 #64

Iran wouldn't be such a pain in the ass now. The Iranians were all tied up dealing with Saddam. calimary Apr 2013 #98

But they never would have made all that money, they made, Cleita Apr 2013 #66

The Most Bogus President Ever colsohlibgal Apr 2013 #73

K&R Electric Monk Apr 2013 #77

K&R! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #78

Those of us who were disgusted with his election victory adieu Apr 2013 #80

Some people would be more vital, and others would be less filthy rich. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #81

What if they didn't steal elections Politicalboi Apr 2013 #82

"We've had enough Bushes" said Barbara Bush. 2 Bushes, 2 wars, imagine what a 3rd would do. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #85

Never forgive. Never forget. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #111

What if the Supreme Court The Wizard Apr 2013 #112