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DanTex

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77. In other words, you won't even try and argue that the right-wing interpretation of 2A is
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:14 PM
Apr 2013

a good thing. Just that it exists, and as long as the GOP continues to be able to get crazy teabagger nutjobs elected, it's not going to change.

Kinda like, when we were invading Iraq, the fact that there were no WMDs was, in a sense, irrelevant, because Bush was going to use that as a rationale for war no matter what the truth is.

Kinda like, all of the scientific evidence demonstrate that global warming is real, and that humans are to blame, but as long as the James Inhofes can keep getting elected, we're never going to do anything about it.

Etc.

You might say defacto7 Apr 2013 #1
Nice rant. Welcome to DU. rrneck Apr 2013 #2
We need socialized medicine rightsideout Apr 2013 #3
+1 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #40
Welcome to DU. The availability of guns and ammunition can be separated from the 2A. Loudly Apr 2013 #4
Do you hold similar views about the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, shares? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #17
Only as they apply to zombies ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #36
Clown College advance studies. Loudly Apr 2013 #87
Do they allow zombies? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #88
Aspiring clowns only. Pretty sure! Loudly Apr 2013 #90
Link..please rsmith6621 Apr 2013 #5
This is a DISCUSSION forum, sparky. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #9
You didnt understand my question rsmith6621 Apr 2013 #51
Hard to argue, sarisataka Apr 2013 #6
Because those things are IRRELEVANT Uzair Apr 2013 #52
"Stick to the topic." pintobean Apr 2013 #58
No dodge to the issue sarisataka Apr 2013 #65
why are gun humpers coming out of the woodwork? Skittles Apr 2013 #89
They are inviting their friends to help stack the deck Electric Monk Apr 2013 #96
they remind me of cockroaches, when you shine a light on them Skittles Apr 2013 #98
Which is WHY Meta should be returned. Occulus Apr 2013 #119
Thinking like that pintobean Apr 2013 #121
Because there are lots of authority humpers sylvi Apr 2013 #100
nope Skittles Apr 2013 #102
yep sylvi Apr 2013 #103
sorry, I don't keep arguing with bullshit replies Skittles Apr 2013 #104
Yet you felt compelled to answer this one sylvi Apr 2013 #105
My "bullshit reply" contained all the thought and consideration sylvi Apr 2013 #106
Knife deaths in the UK occur at the same rate as the U.S. Walk away Apr 2013 #86
The original intent was to have the country defended by Warpy Apr 2013 #7
We don't need to repeal the 2nd Am., we just need to interpret it properly. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #8
2nd Amend is as obsolete as the Muskets it was for ErikJ Apr 2013 #10
You have no Constitutional right to say that as you didn't post it with a quill pen... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #20
Now friendly, he could have used a "press." A wooden one, even. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #56
At the time that the constitution was written Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #11
We actually got the idea of the seconded amendment from the Brits newmember Apr 2013 #12
I'm just afraid that a nation Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #16
It won't be guns that does the world in newmember Apr 2013 #23
Seems to work just fine in all the civilized countries. That is without the "right to bear arms" ErikJ Apr 2013 #15
2nd amendment is utterly irrelevant to today MillennialDem Apr 2013 #13
No, it's not utterly irrelevant, at least not everywhere Recursion Apr 2013 #31
but he doesn't need a 'right' to own a rifle on the ranch.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #91
"Comparisons of the second amendment with the first, or with any of the others... are invalid." AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #14
Cafeteria Constitutionalists don't want people thinking about where their logic may lead... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #19
The famous SCOTUS case of Hocus vs. Pocus... Pelican Apr 2013 #50
It doesn't matter, does it? LittleBlue Apr 2013 #18
And that's the problem really... to most 2nd amendment might as well outright say guns MillennialDem Apr 2013 #22
As far as the .50, it's an arbitrary line Recursion Apr 2013 #32
Well, like I said the .50 cal is specifically designed as an anti-materiel round. A .458 for example MillennialDem Apr 2013 #46
Not really Recursion Apr 2013 #47
LOL. Nope it was designed as an anti tank and anti aircraft gun in WW1. Yes it is used sometimes to MillennialDem Apr 2013 #48
How many times must we "Amend" before we re-write? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #21
How to you plan to keep the repukes and tea baggers out of the convention? hack89 Apr 2013 #108
I can picture them charging in with guns claiming they're just for show,...and loaded... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #109
I would be more worried about the anti-choice nuts hack89 Apr 2013 #110
When you get down to it, the Right hates the Constitution.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #113
Which is why a Constitutional Convention is a dangerous idea. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #114
The root of much evil. n/t moondust Apr 2013 #24
I can think of another one newmember Apr 2013 #25
k&r Apophis Apr 2013 #26
Any which way Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #27
K&R, Thank You! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #28
Nobody Seems To Understand What The 2nd Amendment Means DallasNE Apr 2013 #29
It's not necessarily poorly-worded. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #38
There are parts of the country where everybody having guns makes a lot of sense Recursion Apr 2013 #30
The most rabid Second Amendment absolutists don't live in remote areas jmowreader Apr 2013 #71
Most state constitutions guarantee gun rights Shrek Apr 2013 #33
K&R, and welcome!!! n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #34
"it is what must happen" darkangel218 Apr 2013 #35
K&R and Welcome to DU. 99Forever Apr 2013 #37
I try to not pick sides since I know people who own guns newmember Apr 2013 #42
It's also been completely twisted by modern gun fanatics into something that the founders DanTex Apr 2013 #39
SNORE. Zax2me Apr 2013 #44
LOL. I notice you didn't even bother trying to make an argument. DanTex Apr 2013 #45
How about we scrap the standing army, and keep the militia well-armed? LAGC Apr 2013 #73
Damn straight. K&R. nt MOTRDemocrat Apr 2013 #41
This is why we have the Bill of Rights - to protect against people like Bill Maher. Zax2me Apr 2013 #43
Good post Blecht Apr 2013 #49
Far more dangerous than the 2nd Amendment Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #53
Maher & you are not "we." nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #54
I wish we did see it as obsolete, like the 3rd Amendment treestar Apr 2013 #55
You're gonna piss off the gun humpers here on DU Hugabear Apr 2013 #57
Notice that they can't respond Uzair Apr 2013 #59
I'll respond. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #60
Care to actually make a counter argument? Uzair Apr 2013 #62
The Second Amendment does not confer the right to possess a firearm. That's the important fact. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #68
You also completely ignored the point. DanTex Apr 2013 #78
Welcome to DU. I see you've found the gun trolls. DanTex Apr 2013 #79
They have the Bill Of Rights pintobean Apr 2013 #61
Stop ignoring the subject Uzair Apr 2013 #63
A high rate of gun violence is a small price to pay Hugabear Apr 2013 #64
I did address the issue pintobean Apr 2013 #66
In other words, you won't even try and argue that the right-wing interpretation of 2A is DanTex Apr 2013 #77
No, the OP is arguing for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment pintobean Apr 2013 #80
Hmm, so talking about things that are unlikely to happen is irrelevant? DanTex Apr 2013 #82
Very telling. nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #107
patently transparent dodge. \n Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #92
What did I dodge? pintobean Apr 2013 #93
I'll respond too Ter Apr 2013 #94
Better than pissing off abortion humpers I suppose The Straight Story Apr 2013 #67
What is that even supposed to mean? I've never heard of someone having as many abortions as possible Electric Monk Apr 2013 #75
Sigh...once again, people miss the obvious The Straight Story Apr 2013 #83
Try again after someone goes on an abortion spree, giving a bunch of people abortions against their Electric Monk Apr 2013 #84
Hear, Hear! truebluegreen Apr 2013 #69
The text of the second section of the Declaration of Independence reads, “We hold these truths to be AlinPA Apr 2013 #70
You can do that without a gun... Pelican Apr 2013 #111
I'm so happy you aren't in charge :) galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #72
Me too. badtoworse Apr 2013 #95
before... Locrian Apr 2013 #74
Lindsey Graham and Peter King: The Fifth Amendment is bullshit, and we all know it. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #76
Dodge dodge dodge. Change subject. Uzair Apr 2013 #81
Deal with it. You, Graham, and King are *all* trying to undermine the Constitution. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #115
I agree that the laws gun restrictionists want are not going to happen with the 2nd in place aikoaiko Apr 2013 #85
The Second Amendment isn't going anywhere. Get over it. badtoworse Apr 2013 #97
Who is "we", Kimosabe? sylvi Apr 2013 #99
The 2nd Amendment uproar is the shiny object... bvar22 Apr 2013 #101
We are drowning in guns. Drain the swamp! kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #112
You want severe restrictions against against civilian gun ownership like Mexico and Jamaica? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #116
Good luck with that. Bake Apr 2013 #117
You didn't read the OP. At all. Uzair Apr 2013 #118
Sure I did. 2nd Amendment is no longer necessary. Bake Apr 2013 #120
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