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Response to Uzair (Original post)

Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:44 AM

29. Nobody Seems To Understand What The 2nd Amendment Means

The 2nd Amendment is poorly worded. I think everybody would agree with that.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed


In Heller the Supreme Court ruled that the individual right to bear arms is "unconnected" to service in a militia. Say what?

In the Articles of Confederation the 2nd Amendment would made some sense. With a weak central government and a loose confederation of States it was thought that the defense of the nation would rest in the hands of the individual State militias -- todays National Guard. It made sense that militia members could take their guns home with them so they wouldn't have to go to an armory to pick up their weapons because that might take too long. But under the Constitution the President was also Commander in Chief of a standing federal military. Now the 2nd Amendment is an odd fit.

Any literate American can see that the right of the people to bear arms is closely connected to a well regulated militia in the language of the 2nd Amendment. When you have a Supreme Court that is hyper political you must expect non-defensible decisions like Heller and the decoupling language. Heller is the only Supreme Court decision that mentions a militia and then it rejects any connection to a militia, which is the direct opposite of the actual language. The 2nd Amendment in Heller was reduced to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed". Talk about activists Judges!

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