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MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
177. God's in the mix... he said it....
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 06:02 PM
Feb 2012

He's allowing his self-professed religious viewpoint to influence PUBLIC POLICY on something that has no affect on him, personally. Bigotry against homosexuals on his part is OK, though, because God's in the mix.

i have no idea what he personally believes.. but in this country at this time, running for president dionysus Feb 2012 #1
So, would that fact justify lying about it? WillowTree Feb 2012 #58
Yes , it would surfdog Feb 2012 #95
what lie spanone Feb 2012 #99
how do you know he's lying? tnvoter Feb 2012 #127
If, in order to be elected, the public required that ... GOTV Feb 2012 #242
Great point. I went to a discussion forum between Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss at ASU this Grown2Hate Feb 2012 #254
Don't judge. elleng Feb 2012 #2
I have no problem with whatever President Obama chooses to do for enlightenment. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #3
agreed demtenjeep Feb 2012 #4
+1 wtmusic Feb 2012 #61
+1,000 ! Surya Gayatri Feb 2012 #100
True, if he did yoga to relax treestar Feb 2012 #106
+1 more renie408 Feb 2012 #116
Really lovely post. Number23 Feb 2012 #200
+ a brazillion undeterred Feb 2012 #229
"Enlightenment"? ieoeja Feb 2012 #280
Is there an option for who cares? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #5
I'm an atheist. And it doesn't bother me in the least. phleshdef Feb 2012 #6
Actually, he does use the power of goverment... Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #33
+1. That's okay because he's Barack Obama! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #109
How is that shoving religion down your throat? phleshdef Feb 2012 #113
To quote Barack Obama, "God's in the mix." MNBrewer Feb 2012 #97
He says his religion is why he stands against equality for millions of Americans.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #108
He hasn't done one thing to stand against equality and has done quite a bit for the cause of it. phleshdef Feb 2012 #114
Broken record? _ed_ Feb 2012 #153
Dr. King wouldn't go around trying to derail threads that have nothing to do with the issue.... phleshdef Feb 2012 #158
Sure _ed_ Feb 2012 #216
In the same breathe he said that he would NOT support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage phleshdef Feb 2012 #276
+1 great white snark Feb 2012 #232
you quote him as saying: Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #165
For HIM, as a Christian, he's also the President. MNBrewer Feb 2012 #170
we are all influenced by all kinds of things- Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #179
Umm.... MNBrewer Feb 2012 #184
could you Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #186
He's the goddamn President of the United States _ed_ Feb 2012 #217
what? Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #233
You're right: _ed_ Feb 2012 #236
sorry... Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #246
+1000 CakeGrrl Feb 2012 #162
My anecdotal experience with DU is this bluestateguy Feb 2012 #7
Xtians hate it when I post the hateful things Jesus allegedly said. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #14
What hateful things did Jesus say? Not that it matter, but as far as I know, Jesus is from the New sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #36
You are asking someone so filled with hate/disgust/whatever emotion Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #71
FYI, that poster is aluding to the Greek language. BadgerKid Feb 2012 #104
It's been a while since I've studied the Bible closely deutsey Feb 2012 #112
I think we can, with certainty, credit "Paul" JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #122
Who cares what ANYONE believes, if their beliefs don't run counter to progressive values? whathehell Feb 2012 #176
I don't know deutsey Feb 2012 #190
I don't either. whathehell Feb 2012 #196
Kudos to you deutsey Feb 2012 #198
Thanks! whathehell Feb 2012 #201
+1 deutsey Feb 2012 #203
+1000..n/t whathehell Feb 2012 #174
That is because most people only have to hear the Christian crap..... Logical Feb 2012 #195
They "have" to...They have no choices? whathehell Feb 2012 #215
Very intolerant people who claim to want tolerance. Seriously the hypocrisy is unparalleled. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #241
I just assume he's pretending to love God to get votes. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #8
Not even an assumption.. JSnuffy Feb 2012 #76
So why did he go to church for twenty years CJCRANE Feb 2012 #88
Do I know for certain what is in his head? JSnuffy Feb 2012 #90
hmmmm... the way we Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #169
Good guess... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #173
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #96
LOL...That is "precisely" only your guess. whathehell Feb 2012 #183
That's a rethug talking point Obamacare Feb 2012 #156
God is imaginary so if he is pretending to love god that shows he is intelligent. It's a compliment. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #157
Excuse, me, but the concept that God is imaginary is an OPINION, not a decided fact. whathehell Feb 2012 #180
(In my opinion) gods are imaginary. Better? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #191
That is better, yes, whathehell Feb 2012 #193
Actually, the concept that god is real is an opinion, not a fact in the least. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #208
"The concept that god is real is also an opinion, not a fact". Funny, I never said otherwise. whathehell Feb 2012 #213
You can keep trying to make the false equivalencies if you want. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #219
Um, No. Trying isn't required...They are clearly equivalent, lol. whathehell Feb 2012 #230
You could not be more right. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #247
BWAHAHAHA! whathehell Feb 2012 #250
Bwahahaha cleanhippie Feb 2012 #252
Gee...Such originality! whathehell Feb 2012 #258
As expected, you lack any substance whatsoever. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #259
As expected, you've been reduced to babbling. whathehell Feb 2012 #268
You know, projection is treatable. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #270
Unfortunately, for you whathehell Feb 2012 #271
More personal attacks and insults. You stay classy now, ok? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #279
I'm responding to yours. I will indeed "stay classy". You in turn, might endeavor to become so! whathehell Feb 2012 #281
Bwahahahaha! cleanhippie Feb 2012 #282
Why would you respond if you thought I wouldn't see it? whathehell Feb 2012 #283
School on a holiday is as close to class as your posts ever get. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #284
BWAHAHAHA..You DID read it..Duh! whathehell Feb 2012 #286
Are you ok? Do you need help? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #287
Ask yourself that! whathehell Feb 2012 #289
I guess you do need help. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #290
Honey, you've had seven posts deleted in the last 90 days...You're in no position to judge! whathehell Feb 2012 #291
Help. Seek it. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #292
Projection can be treated, you know. whathehell Feb 2012 #293
Good to hear. Hope yours gets cured. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #294
I don't project whathehell Feb 2012 #295
Sure you do. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #296
No I sure don't whathehell Feb 2012 #297
Hahahahahahahahahahaha cleanhippie Feb 2012 #298
As a Christian Obamacare Feb 2012 #211
My take on your question... whathehell Feb 2012 #197
You pretty much summed it up Obamacare Feb 2012 #212
Thank you. I agree completely. whathehell Feb 2012 #214
This message was self-deleted by its author chrisa Feb 2012 #223
These posts are extremely ignorant and pretentious. Who cares what anyone else believes? chrisa Feb 2012 #224
most of the clueless bigots newspeak Feb 2012 #231
Well... LogicalGenius Feb 2012 #9
He was pretty clear about his religious beliefs, before he was ever elected, if I recall. Fridays Child Feb 2012 #10
You recall accurately. And his election itself could be looked at as a miracle with all the nanabugg Feb 2012 #73
"..who at DU would question the power of prayer?" JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #124
When Obama is reelected, prayer will have nothing to do with it. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #209
Oh, Fuck. Not another "stop bashing us persecuted DU Christians" whine-a-palooza. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #11
"He can believe whatever he wants, as can you." Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #30
yes- Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #172
Hmm....this post is a bit whiny. onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #63
No. I'm given "free rein to rant" because of the 1st Amendment, Jack. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #64
Um...no onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #67
Where, precisely, did I make disparaging comments about your religion? I'd like the exact quote. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #77
I am always amused when folks are 'mean to others for Jesus' as you are. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #111
Actually, harsh critique of religion (bashing, as you like to call it) is completly allowed. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #210
I have a mouth like a fucking sailor, so saying fuck doesn't bother me one fucking bit. renie408 Feb 2012 #123
I want to know what specific statement you take issue with, factually or otherwise. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #159
*sigh* For one thing, it's Mr. Special Pleading-WOMAN, not man. And for another... renie408 Feb 2012 #166
So, okay, you acknowledge that I didn't actually say it. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #168
I think you might contradict your message with the tone of your message. renie408 Feb 2012 #181
Okay. You're sort of contradicting yourself, here, if your assertion is that the problem is "tone" Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #185
Ahhh...now I understand the going nuts with the 'f' word. renie408 Feb 2012 #188
Peace. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #202
Warren said nothing about those holding beliefs muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #92
Apparently, you've deemed Warren the martyr onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #101
Allow me to quote one Jesus Christ on how his followers should deal with persecution: Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #117
You're the one comparing themselves to a black having the vote withheld muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #135
I'm still waiting for you to provide me with the exact quote where I "disparaged" Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #160
Yes, it's a whiney post. Instead of responding intelligently to the OP... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #141
+1 renie408 Feb 2012 #167
Post #49 is all the intelligent response this OP is entitled to. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #171
... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #110
I'll edit to add... Tebow. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #12
Again I say, who cares? At this point, I'm all for putting the persecuted Christians and ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #15
Time Out. I knew I liked you... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #18
Thanks ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #26
And yet, you started this thread to specify just exactly how persecuted you think you are. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #27
I don't feel persecuted... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #31
What did you hope to achieve with this thread? Be honest, now. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #49
Amen! No pun intended. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #235
you're right... It's JUST NOT FAIR to Tebow, and his very public praying and anti-choice advocacy Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #16
So President Obama's claim of faith differs somehow from Tebows public display of same? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #28
Really? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #35
You mean aside from the ad he did for "Focus on the Family"? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #39
GMTA ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #43
Ummm...oops! ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #42
Hey. So.... did we actually have a bet on that? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #66
Tebow LogicalGenius Feb 2012 #19
I agree, and saying you pray is much different than making a big Liquorice Feb 2012 #55
And it is absurd to think that god cares about the leader of the "free world" who Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #57
And once you start thinking about the absurdity of a deity caring about the football game outcome Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #145
God doesn't have time to talk with Obama, he's too busy determining the outcome hughee99 Feb 2012 #285
Tebow is a commercial 'product' ... Amonester Feb 2012 #23
Lol, no, you're not the only one. People can be pretty inconsistent. When Bush said pretty much sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #44
Chile, Bush was playing that for all it was worht. If you'll remember, members of his family came Ecumenist Feb 2012 #53
Who was the DUer who trashed Tebow, and defended Obama praying on his knees? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #93
There's a huge difference treestar Feb 2012 #107
Of course they have the right. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #146
I'll criticize Obama too if he starts wearing eyeblack NoGOPZone Feb 2012 #226
As long as he doesn't Mz Pip Feb 2012 #13
He always makes a point of acknowledging nonbelievers, much to the chagrin of many theocrats Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #21
Thank you. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #37
Unless you are a person denied the right to marry. Then he tells us that as a Christian Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #126
And how do you know this? bhikkhu Feb 2012 #17
Here you go...National Prayer Breakfast... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #24
Thanks - and that sounds ok. bhikkhu Feb 2012 #38
praying on your knees is gesture of "humility". It speaks well of a person. Lil Missy Feb 2012 #20
Maybe to you Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #22
It says to me that a person is seeking the good of all as a result of his actions. mia Feb 2012 #46
Glucosamine and an exercycle. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #51
Amen to that! nt nanabugg Feb 2012 #74
If I wanted to be told I have to believe in a fucking Higher Power, I'd go to an AA meeting. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #25
No one is telling you that, Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #40
One of the things I really appreciate about the guy, he makes a point of acknowledging nonbelievers. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #47
WAY long overdue Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #48
And what he does in his bedroom at night is his business. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #50
I have a feeling I don't want to know what that is. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #54
Man! The one time I *don't* make a dirty joke, someone thinks I do. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #56
no it's not lol Vattel Feb 2012 #85
Who are "we"? mia Feb 2012 #29
MOST DUer's are Atheists? Really? Although I'm sure a large percentage are atheistic Ecumenist Feb 2012 #32
A voice of reason...here at post number 32. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #34
Allow me to join the chorus. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #45
I hope he's not lying because that would be pretty Liquorice Feb 2012 #41
2006 Senator Barack Obama: Call To Renewal - Faith and Politics Speech - video Tx4obama Feb 2012 #52
I'm glad he prays! onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #59
Wow. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #128
I doubt you are right about 'most' DUers. Rex Feb 2012 #60
That bothered me too - It's not "most" DUers & the "we" would only include the poster and some DUers AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2012 #199
I agree, I think there is a huge amount of spiritual people Rex Feb 2012 #206
I think President Barack Obama is a superb politician, almost as artful as W. J. Clinton. MADem Feb 2012 #62
May I join this whine-tasting party? Capitalocracy Feb 2012 #65
+1 JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #131
I hate whine. Too much of it gives me a headache. chrisa Feb 2012 #225
It just puts me to sleep. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #237
If Obama doesn't believe, he better pretend Politicalboi Feb 2012 #68
I don't really care what he believes in hyphenate Feb 2012 #69
92% of Americans - 90% of Democrats/ 85% of liberals - 94% of college graduates believe in God Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #70
Not only is the word "God" completely undefined, it's combined with "a universal spirit" Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #78
I have no opinion on the matter and no opinion about what defines God Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #79
Really? No offense to the "Wise Blood" character, but I dropped a fucking chair on my foot Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #83
great post Vattel Feb 2012 #87
I can agree to this. I'm still in battle with fellow Pantheists to not confuse our beliefs with God. vaberella Feb 2012 #243
THANK YOU. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #245
I think it's something to be terribly concerned about. JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #130
I don't believe him. T S Justly Feb 2012 #72
Ha! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #132
There's always got to be someone who tries to hijack an OP to discuss what THEY want to discuss stevenleser Feb 2012 #260
just a guess - but if the same questions were asked about george w bush - most of the responses DrDan Feb 2012 #75
that's because george w bush opened said he turned to his "heavenly father" tnvoter Feb 2012 #133
Right? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #134
It offends the hell out of me that there is such a relentless religious test tblue37 Feb 2012 #80
That makes two of us. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #125
as long as he doesn't claim to hear god talking back, who cares? piratefish08 Feb 2012 #81
Religion is on-topic for GD again? /)^3^(\ Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #82
All DUers are equal... Fumesucker Feb 2012 #86
I have no idea what Obama believes Prophet 451 Feb 2012 #84
I think Obama believes in the social message of Jesus CJCRANE Feb 2012 #89
There's this thing called "Freedom of Religion" justiceischeap Feb 2012 #91
When it comes to religion and politicians I close my ears because Vinca Feb 2012 #94
Just as long as he follows his Lord's teaching and prays in private baldguy Feb 2012 #98
We all believe that there is no higher power?? And we "hold" others to that?? JoePhilly Feb 2012 #102
You are not understanding the Flying Spaghetti Monster cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #103
Thank you for that clarification deutsey Feb 2012 #118
Nevermind. jefferson_dem Feb 2012 #189
The pre-edit version was funnier cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #192
How does Obama "not act like he believes in God"? whathehell Feb 2012 #269
I don't hold people to any religious standard when it comes to holding office treestar Feb 2012 #105
I am an unrepentant atheist and have no problem with Obama's faith. What is the big deal? renie408 Feb 2012 #115
Believing in "christian values" is one thing, christian actions are something entirely different! madmom Feb 2012 #119
I am glad he does. I hope he will go one step beyond and actually follow the liberal teachings of theophilus Feb 2012 #120
More power? _ed_ Feb 2012 #152
God's in the mix... he said it.... MNBrewer Feb 2012 #177
Facepalm Boombaby Feb 2012 #121
"I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman." Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #129
That's the whole of it, right there. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #136
I think we need to redefine marriage. renie408 Feb 2012 #137
So if the word "marriage" could only be used for whites marrying whites, or blacks marrying blacks, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #144
No, ALL marriages would be civil unions in the eyes of the law. No marriages. All civil unions. renie408 Feb 2012 #175
It is a good thing that he's a man of faith, if he thinks it is. If it gives him comfort, Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #138
"as long as they don't use that as an excuse to take away my rights or harm me" _ed_ Feb 2012 #151
The person already indicated as much and you already know that because you quoted them. stevenleser Feb 2012 #261
According to Jesus any public display of prayer means they are hypocrites. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #139
I don't believe Obama did public prayer. He just prayed at home...which is what he said. vaberella Feb 2012 #239
anyone who is disappointed by having a Christian president arely staircase Feb 2012 #140
yeah, well I don't care if he gets down on his knees and prays newspeak Feb 2012 #142
the problem here isn't his faith. Raffi Ella Feb 2012 #143
+1 renie408 Feb 2012 #147
DUers are not that asses you assume they are in your post. gulliver Feb 2012 #148
I take issue with his expansion of faith based initiatives, not his personal beliefs. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2012 #149
The existence of a "higher power" is a matter of fact _ed_ Feb 2012 #150
What in the name of "the flying spaghetti monster" or God, does it matter? ... K Gardner Feb 2012 #154
Well, there is no scientific proof either for or against a higher power. Cleita Feb 2012 #155
You do realize that your statement there about proof is considered "bashing" and "bigotry" by some. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #161
What do you care about his beliefs? CakeGrrl Feb 2012 #163
It's all ProSense Feb 2012 #178
I'd be surprised if he actually believes whatchamacallit Feb 2012 #164
RW fundies feel the same about abortion and the reasoning is similar. stevenleser Feb 2012 #262
Unbelievable! whatchamacallit Feb 2012 #263
While watching you go into a tizzy was fun, you missed my point entirely. I'll try to help stevenleser Feb 2012 #266
Honestly I don't know what you're babbling about whatchamacallit Feb 2012 #267
It is absolutely fascinating to me that there are people here who are more comfortable renie408 Feb 2012 #182
most people think politicians lie RainDog Feb 2012 #277
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Feb 2012 #187
I must have missed the part where Obama did an ad for Focus on the Family. nt Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #204
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Feb 2012 #220
I'm going to wait for someone to come up with a logically coherent definition of the word "God" Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #228
If he does it to get votes I am fine with it. If he really believes it..... Logical Feb 2012 #194
It's NONE of your business or mine. donheld Feb 2012 #205
It's his personal choice Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2012 #207
I don't care about one's faith or lack of faith. It is not my business. Jennicut Feb 2012 #218
We all deal with the reality of non-existence in different ways. randome Feb 2012 #221
Big deal. Who cares? chrisa Feb 2012 #222
Personally I suspect it's campaign BS, fodder for those inclined to put weight in such a claim. NorthCarolina Feb 2012 #227
What is your fuckin' deal?! Is it fuckin' illegal to believe in a God?! vaberella Feb 2012 #234
You're right about the intended divisive nature of the thread Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #238
I read the post. I don't see the point. vaberella Feb 2012 #240
Okay. Let me spell it out for you. The OP is trying to be cute, taking a swipe at DU's atheists. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #244
+1 n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #278
I don't give a damn if the President believes in a flying cat that shits rainbows. Arkana Feb 2012 #248
Arkana, For the thread win. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #249
from a Machiavellian perspective, it would be foolish for him to say anything else yurbud Feb 2012 #251
I rather he wouldn't. BiggJawn Feb 2012 #253
Religion isn't the CAUSE of violence. renie408 Feb 2012 #256
You should ask him who he prays to, not us. icymist Feb 2012 #255
I wouldn't say "most" DUers are Pastafarians KamaAina Feb 2012 #257
That is his fucking business, just like what I do is mine, unless of course either one of us break lonestarnot Feb 2012 #264
I don't care. Religion is one issue I coexist with. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #265
Thank you. whathehell Feb 2012 #272
You are of the mistaken belief that apparently there are no Christians on DU WI_DEM Feb 2012 #273
hold him to the same standard RainDog Feb 2012 #274
I don't care. TheManInTheMac Feb 2012 #275
works for me. a lot of people are religious in this country. they feel true answers come from Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #288
Except for the times when he says marriage should be between a man and a woman bigwillq Feb 2012 #299
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