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In reply to the discussion: So our President gets down on his knees and prays to "God". [View all]MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)177. God's in the mix... he said it....
He's allowing his self-professed religious viewpoint to influence PUBLIC POLICY on something that has no affect on him, personally. Bigotry against homosexuals on his part is OK, though, because God's in the mix.
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So our President gets down on his knees and prays to "God". [View all]
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2012
OP
i have no idea what he personally believes.. but in this country at this time, running for president
dionysus
Feb 2012
#1
Great point. I went to a discussion forum between Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss at ASU this
Grown2Hate
Feb 2012
#254
I have no problem with whatever President Obama chooses to do for enlightenment.
CaliforniaPeggy
Feb 2012
#3
He says his religion is why he stands against equality for millions of Americans....
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#108
He hasn't done one thing to stand against equality and has done quite a bit for the cause of it.
phleshdef
Feb 2012
#114
Dr. King wouldn't go around trying to derail threads that have nothing to do with the issue....
phleshdef
Feb 2012
#158
In the same breathe he said that he would NOT support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage
phleshdef
Feb 2012
#276
Xtians hate it when I post the hateful things Jesus allegedly said.
Manifestor_of_Light
Feb 2012
#14
What hateful things did Jesus say? Not that it matter, but as far as I know, Jesus is from the New
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#36
Who cares what ANYONE believes, if their beliefs don't run counter to progressive values?
whathehell
Feb 2012
#176
Very intolerant people who claim to want tolerance. Seriously the hypocrisy is unparalleled. n/t
vaberella
Feb 2012
#241
God is imaginary so if he is pretending to love god that shows he is intelligent. It's a compliment.
limpyhobbler
Feb 2012
#157
Excuse, me, but the concept that God is imaginary is an OPINION, not a decided fact.
whathehell
Feb 2012
#180
Actually, the concept that god is real is an opinion, not a fact in the least.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#208
"The concept that god is real is also an opinion, not a fact". Funny, I never said otherwise.
whathehell
Feb 2012
#213
I'm responding to yours. I will indeed "stay classy". You in turn, might endeavor to become so!
whathehell
Feb 2012
#281
Honey, you've had seven posts deleted in the last 90 days...You're in no position to judge!
whathehell
Feb 2012
#291
These posts are extremely ignorant and pretentious. Who cares what anyone else believes?
chrisa
Feb 2012
#224
He was pretty clear about his religious beliefs, before he was ever elected, if I recall.
Fridays Child
Feb 2012
#10
You recall accurately. And his election itself could be looked at as a miracle with all the
nanabugg
Feb 2012
#73
Oh, Fuck. Not another "stop bashing us persecuted DU Christians" whine-a-palooza.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#11
No. I'm given "free rein to rant" because of the 1st Amendment, Jack.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#64
Where, precisely, did I make disparaging comments about your religion? I'd like the exact quote.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#77
I am always amused when folks are 'mean to others for Jesus' as you are.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#111
Actually, harsh critique of religion (bashing, as you like to call it) is completly allowed.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#210
I have a mouth like a fucking sailor, so saying fuck doesn't bother me one fucking bit.
renie408
Feb 2012
#123
I want to know what specific statement you take issue with, factually or otherwise.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#159
*sigh* For one thing, it's Mr. Special Pleading-WOMAN, not man. And for another...
renie408
Feb 2012
#166
Okay. You're sort of contradicting yourself, here, if your assertion is that the problem is "tone"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#185
Allow me to quote one Jesus Christ on how his followers should deal with persecution:
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#117
You're the one comparing themselves to a black having the vote withheld
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2012
#135
I'm still waiting for you to provide me with the exact quote where I "disparaged"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#160
Again I say, who cares? At this point, I'm all for putting the persecuted Christians and
ScreamingMeemie
Feb 2012
#15
And yet, you started this thread to specify just exactly how persecuted you think you are.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#27
you're right... It's JUST NOT FAIR to Tebow, and his very public praying and anti-choice advocacy
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#16
So President Obama's claim of faith differs somehow from Tebows public display of same?
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2012
#28
And it is absurd to think that god cares about the leader of the "free world" who
Luminous Animal
Feb 2012
#57
And once you start thinking about the absurdity of a deity caring about the football game outcome
Arugula Latte
Feb 2012
#145
God doesn't have time to talk with Obama, he's too busy determining the outcome
hughee99
Feb 2012
#285
Lol, no, you're not the only one. People can be pretty inconsistent. When Bush said pretty much
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#44
Chile, Bush was playing that for all it was worht. If you'll remember, members of his family came
Ecumenist
Feb 2012
#53
Who was the DUer who trashed Tebow, and defended Obama praying on his knees?
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2012
#93
He always makes a point of acknowledging nonbelievers, much to the chagrin of many theocrats
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#21
Unless you are a person denied the right to marry. Then he tells us that as a Christian
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#126
If I wanted to be told I have to believe in a fucking Higher Power, I'd go to an AA meeting.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#25
One of the things I really appreciate about the guy, he makes a point of acknowledging nonbelievers.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#47
MOST DUer's are Atheists? Really? Although I'm sure a large percentage are atheistic
Ecumenist
Feb 2012
#32
2006 Senator Barack Obama: Call To Renewal - Faith and Politics Speech - video
Tx4obama
Feb 2012
#52
That bothered me too - It's not "most" DUers & the "we" would only include the poster and some DUers
AnotherMother4Peace
Feb 2012
#199
I think President Barack Obama is a superb politician, almost as artful as W. J. Clinton.
MADem
Feb 2012
#62
92% of Americans - 90% of Democrats/ 85% of liberals - 94% of college graduates believe in God
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#70
Not only is the word "God" completely undefined, it's combined with "a universal spirit"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#78
I have no opinion on the matter and no opinion about what defines God
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#79
Really? No offense to the "Wise Blood" character, but I dropped a fucking chair on my foot
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#83
I can agree to this. I'm still in battle with fellow Pantheists to not confuse our beliefs with God.
vaberella
Feb 2012
#243
There's always got to be someone who tries to hijack an OP to discuss what THEY want to discuss
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#260
just a guess - but if the same questions were asked about george w bush - most of the responses
DrDan
Feb 2012
#75
We all believe that there is no higher power?? And we "hold" others to that??
JoePhilly
Feb 2012
#102
I don't hold people to any religious standard when it comes to holding office
treestar
Feb 2012
#105
I am an unrepentant atheist and have no problem with Obama's faith. What is the big deal?
renie408
Feb 2012
#115
Believing in "christian values" is one thing, christian actions are something entirely different!
madmom
Feb 2012
#119
I am glad he does. I hope he will go one step beyond and actually follow the liberal teachings of
theophilus
Feb 2012
#120
So if the word "marriage" could only be used for whites marrying whites, or blacks marrying blacks,
Nye Bevan
Feb 2012
#144
No, ALL marriages would be civil unions in the eyes of the law. No marriages. All civil unions.
renie408
Feb 2012
#175
It is a good thing that he's a man of faith, if he thinks it is. If it gives him comfort,
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#138
The person already indicated as much and you already know that because you quoted them.
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#261
According to Jesus any public display of prayer means they are hypocrites.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#139
I don't believe Obama did public prayer. He just prayed at home...which is what he said.
vaberella
Feb 2012
#239
I take issue with his expansion of faith based initiatives, not his personal beliefs. -nt
CrispyQ
Feb 2012
#149
What in the name of "the flying spaghetti monster" or God, does it matter? ...
K Gardner
Feb 2012
#154
You do realize that your statement there about proof is considered "bashing" and "bigotry" by some.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#161
While watching you go into a tizzy was fun, you missed my point entirely. I'll try to help
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#266
It is absolutely fascinating to me that there are people here who are more comfortable
renie408
Feb 2012
#182
I must have missed the part where Obama did an ad for Focus on the Family. nt
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#204
I'm going to wait for someone to come up with a logically coherent definition of the word "God"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#228
Personally I suspect it's campaign BS, fodder for those inclined to put weight in such a claim.
NorthCarolina
Feb 2012
#227
Okay. Let me spell it out for you. The OP is trying to be cute, taking a swipe at DU's atheists.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#244
I don't give a damn if the President believes in a flying cat that shits rainbows.
Arkana
Feb 2012
#248
from a Machiavellian perspective, it would be foolish for him to say anything else
yurbud
Feb 2012
#251
That is his fucking business, just like what I do is mine, unless of course either one of us break
lonestarnot
Feb 2012
#264
works for me. a lot of people are religious in this country. they feel true answers come from
Obama3_16
Feb 2012
#288
Except for the times when he says marriage should be between a man and a woman
bigwillq
Feb 2012
#299