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NickB79

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52. Of course voting kills

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:19 PM

Apr 2013

Ask any one of the millions of Iraqis who lost loved ones when we bombed the living fuck out of them because we VOTED to install a bloodthirsty GOP president and vice-president, TWICE.

It's not as cold-blooded as pulling the trigger yourself, but that doesn't change the culpability of those that put murderers in office.

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More Senators Vote To Loosen Gun Laws Than Tighten Them [View all] DonViejo Apr 2013 OP

Thank God for Harry Reid's 60 vote need. Thank God for his foresight. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1

There was nothing covert about what the NRA wanted. premium Apr 2013 #3

Sen. Schumer doesn't make any sense at all. premium Apr 2013 #2

Try reading the entire article, i.e., follow the link nt DonViejo Apr 2013 #4

I have read it and watched Schumer live. Premium's point still stands. X_Digger Apr 2013 #5

My husband couldn't prove a "need" HockeyMom Apr 2013 #37

Of course.. laws vary. In some states that have reciprocal agreements with my own.. X_Digger Apr 2013 #43

I did read the whole article premium Apr 2013 #6

Okay. Apologies to you premium... DonViejo Apr 2013 #8

Violent felons from Florida and North Carolina would be allowed to take loaded weapons onto NYC geek tragedy Apr 2013 #10

False, but great rhetoric! Recursion Apr 2013 #14

What part of it is false? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #18

Felons with restored rights are no longer felons Recursion Apr 2013 #21

Sure, to people who have passed NY standards, not the standards geek tragedy Apr 2013 #33

Felons have a constitutional right to gun permits in Louisiana. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #7

As far as FL, premium Apr 2013 #17

Why should New York be forced to bear the risk that they haven't fixed it? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #19

People who go to the trouble to get a CWP premium Apr 2013 #23

Metal detectors at NYC Landmark buildings HockeyMom Apr 2013 #28

If a NY permittee can't carry there, neither can an FL permittee Recursion Apr 2013 #36

Doesn't that also allow them to vote again? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #22

Yep, if you can vote, you can pack a hidden weapon. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #30

You're right. It takes 72. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #34

So now giving reformed felons back their civil rights is a bad thing? NickB79 Apr 2013 #39

Give them the right to vote? Sure. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #40

So, give back some civil rights but not all? NickB79 Apr 2013 #48

CCP is not a civil right. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #50

Of course it's a right to become physically dangerous NickB79 Apr 2013 #54

So, you think convicted rapists should get the right to CCP geek tragedy Apr 2013 #55

I feel they should be given long prison terms NickB79 Apr 2013 #56

Felons don't hurt anyone by voting. They do hurt people with guns. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #57

Voting kills? HockeyMom Apr 2013 #42

Of course voting kills NickB79 Apr 2013 #52

Alan Grayson supports this; I don't think it's fair to call it entirely right wing Recursion Apr 2013 #9

It's 100% stupid. We in New York City don't want violent felons from Gunland states geek tragedy Apr 2013 #11

Right, because that's what would happen Recursion Apr 2013 #13

Drunk asshole tourists in Times Square packing concealed weapons. What could go wrong? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #15

Carrying concealed while drunk is illegal Recursion Apr 2013 #16

They wouldn't be drunk when walking into the bar. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #25

It's illegal to drink while carrying concealed. And if you say they might do it anyways... Recursion Apr 2013 #26

Sure, but it's a crime to bring it into the state currently. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #29

No, it's not. You should learn your state's laws. Recursion Apr 2013 #31

Okay, it's illegal to bring the weapon into the state such that you can kill someone in 2 seconds geek tragedy Apr 2013 #32

You're contending that states with concealed carry laws premium Apr 2013 #20

States with strict gun laws have fewer firearm deaths than those with permissive ones. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #27

Thats not what I asked, premium Apr 2013 #35

The South is. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #38

So you're saying that the majority of firearms violence in the southern states premium Apr 2013 #41

Part of the larger effort to prioritize guns over human life. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #44

But, respectfully, that doesn't answer my question. premium Apr 2013 #45

Slippery slope. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #47

Maybe, maybe not, premium Apr 2013 #49

Once the gun is there, the rest of it is just technicalities. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #51

I fully agree with you about same sex marriage. premium Apr 2013 #53

Thats NOT what your link says. beevul Apr 2013 #60

A second look at the 10th Amendment? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #24

I felt safe in NYC because of the strict gun laws and now I feel smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #59

Why would I in NYC/NJ care what some Florida guy in Jeb's state cares about? graham4anything Apr 2013 #58

thank God the party of life has its priorities straight ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #12

Florida HockeyMom Apr 2013 #46