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In reply to the discussion: Are Mormons Christian? [View all]CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)271. The physical evidence that Jesus existed
by definition negates the Christian religion...
As we saw when the remains of Jesus and his family were (allegedly) found in Israel recently (within the last 20 or 30 years).
The Bible tells us that Jesus ascended physically to heaven so, paradoxically, physical proof that he existed is the last thing that the Church wants.
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This belongs in the religous forum. No Jesus wasn't a Christian, he was the son of God. So what
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#12
To each his own and I say that one day your knees will bow, like it or not. So you have fun now.
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#22
I love how Christians resort to threats of eternal damnation when their beliefs are challenged.
white_wolf
Jan 2012
#26
Did I say eternal damnation? No I did not. Now when you get back to politics and save the
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#33
I'm stealing your last quote if you don't mind, as a sig line. Brilliant. nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#68
Threats of eternal damnation are the most effective tool organized religion has
undeterred
Jan 2012
#37
Oh God, you too? I went to a fundie Christian school in the 70's and saw these types for what
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#57
The other poster is referencing a specific Scripture, in Romans 14. The full passage
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#133
I suppose it's all perception. I honestly don't think it was meant as a declaration
Ecumenist
Feb 2012
#216
Anyone that tells me "Someday your knees will bow" has a very specific idea in mind.
A HERETIC I AM
Feb 2012
#219
Wow. You wasted a bunch of effort there. Did you have fun? Your opinion of my God is not valuable
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#66
If your god actually existed, I'd tell him to fuck himself for demanding people "bow down".
Zhade
Feb 2012
#120
I don't reject mythology because of others' interpretations, but because of the lack of evidence.
Zhade
Feb 2012
#170
"Biblical Scholars" all think "he" existed- big surprise, there. Most objective non-Bible historians
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#128
I think you misunderstood. Actually, for all I know there may be Biblical Scholars who dispute the
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#233
I learned long ago - like back in 2003 - that discretion was the better part of valor.
A HERETIC I AM
Jan 2012
#52
he could have been real. doesn't mean he's a diety. at any rate, he was the first documented hippie
dionysus
Jan 2012
#63
I'm more on your side than not, but the reason the gospels were written decades after Jesus lived
deutsey
Jan 2012
#105
You say that with confidence, as if you had hard evidence to back that up.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#196
One can decisively reject any notion of Jesus' divinity, but the historical
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2012
#270
That makes as much sense as saying that everyone who claims to be a Democrat, IS a Democrat
SaintPete
Jan 2012
#84
Ah, then you'd need to demonstrate that self indentified Christians follow the teachings
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#135
Just because they don't repeat the Nicene Creed doesn't mean that they don't accept the
grantcart
Feb 2012
#156
They do. Their interpertation of him is different than other sects, of course.
white_wolf
Jan 2012
#13
Lol. You might have had a point, IF I had actually made the argument you say I made
SaintPete
Feb 2012
#255
They talk out of both sides. They follow that Joseph Smith dude, book of mormon and they
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#14
The full name of the church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#15
FYI, Andrew Sullivan posted three blogs with differing opinions on this last October. Links:
highplainsdem
Jan 2012
#21
The fundamentalists I know do not consider either Catholics or Mormons to be Christian...
undeterred
Jan 2012
#23
Thank you, Nye Bevan. I always get upset when people say things like "I was Catholic,
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#48
I'll never understand how the original form of Christianity became regarded as false
white_wolf
Jan 2012
#61
You're absolutely right. My husband is Catholic, well he's Catholic AND Lutheran...long story
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#65
Some would say the 'original form' is found in the Acts of the Apostles long prior to
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#139
There's Fundamentalist Catholics that don't believe that non Catholics are Christian
Nikia
Jan 2012
#106
One billion Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant Christians all agree that 'Christian' is defined
grantcart
Feb 2012
#125
Except for those who do not. Quakers, Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarians, the Church of
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#140
Digit, this Christian loves you just the way you are.. I'm not God and cannot judge you
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#62
Most accept that Creed, others do not and some reject all Creeds as idols of a sort.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#142
Look the issue is about the definition of God. Jesus plays a minor role in Mormonism just like Islam
jwirr
Jan 2012
#83
That is what I said it is the definition. I did not say the Mormons defined Jesus as a prophet I
jwirr
Jan 2012
#88
You just said that "Jesus plays a minor role in Mormonism just like Islam".
PassingFair
Jan 2012
#94
Not sure what you are talking about but they have every right to say that since their religion does
jwirr
Feb 2012
#253
Maybe a few are. Of the roughly one billion humans who claim to be Christians, about 2 hundred
Skwid
Jan 2012
#92
Mormons do not fit the orthodox definition of Christianity and cannot be considered 'Christians', so
grantcart
Jan 2012
#96
Those intolerant Church Fathers don't own Christianity any more than Roman Catholics do
Nikia
Jan 2012
#104
You are incorrect that the Nicene Creed is the accepted Standard. Many Protestant
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2012
#146
I've known alot of Mormons, always thought they were Christians. Never asked and don't give a shit.
limpyhobbler
Jan 2012
#101
I agree. I dated a Mormon in college. Learned a lot. Jesus plays almost no role in Mormonism.
Critters2
Feb 2012
#110
To the best of my ability and from reading the Bible, Mormons are Christians
akbacchus_BC
Feb 2012
#118
No, because they believe in a non-canonical 'revealed' Prophet and non-canonical texts
JCMach1
Feb 2012
#131
In practice probably a lot more Christian then the people that say they aren't.
Ganja Ninja
Feb 2012
#134
The "original" covenant was with Adam. Mormons believe the covenant made by Jesus
Romulox
Feb 2012
#164
They are self-proclaimed Christians and view Jesus as the primary figure, HOWEVER,...
HopeHoops
Feb 2012
#145
Not in the traditional sense, since they'd have to accept concepts like the Trinity.
closeupready
Feb 2012
#163
I'm not Mormon, but I do live in Utah. Mormons do consider themselves to be Christians. n/t
helderheid
Feb 2012
#182
Did you ever go though the Book of Morman? Pretty wierd stuff in there. Thats what they believe,
demosincebirth
Feb 2012
#194
They define themselves as much. The entirety of the rest of the discussion is about Scotsmen. (nt)
Posteritatis
Feb 2012
#279