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Tom Rinaldo

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90. I was only offering a direct answer to a direct question

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:40 AM

Apr 2013

I did not run for President. But there is a reason why people get to vote in a democracy, we are called on to make judgements on the people who seek to lead and where they intend their leadership to take us. Elizabeth Warren, for example, is an intelligent woman who opposes what Obama just opposed and no one call call her an "Obama hater - she served in his administration." Intelligent and well meaning people can disagree. I am not what one calls a low information voter - I do not put my citizenship on automatic pilot when a Democrat is in the White House.

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So, protest from "his base" can strengthen Obama's hand, eh? [View all] Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 OP

President Obama ropes the dopes again. 100% of the time. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1

80 MORE YEARS! bobduca Apr 2013 #2

Depends on when the war started. Maybe it started with the election of Bill Clinton in 92? el_bryanto Apr 2013 #6

Sorry I was swept up in the excitement of 20 more obama terms bobduca Apr 2013 #7

It could have been 80 years had Adlai,LBJ,Jimmy and Gore kept it going. graham4anything Apr 2013 #8

Well it's only foolish if you agree with the Clintons middle of the road corporate liberalism el_bryanto Apr 2013 #15

the question now is daybranch Apr 2013 #20

You're in Reagans 9th term right now. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #22

I could suggest an answer. zeemike Apr 2013 #36

And Obama includes people who disagree with him and are to the right of JDPriestly Apr 2013 #44

So, let me get this straight. Obama will include us if we disagree with him. OK, we can AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #83

If, in addition, you are to the right of him. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #84

War is Peace. Retreat is Progress. n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #3

Greed is good. Society doesn't exist. Austerity brings growth. Depositors are investors. BelgianMadCow Apr 2013 #81

hope your grandchildren still have an inhabitable planet after 80 years of climate inaction nt HomerRamone Apr 2013 #24

K&R PBO is ensuring a 2010 rerun. forestpath Apr 2013 #4

This is the largest political blunder by Obama, yet... 99Forever Apr 2013 #5

He doesn't care about the party Nite Owl Apr 2013 #11

I really think it is also - by far Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #57

"Unless, of course, that was the plan all along. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #79

You mention what mainstream commentators fail to grasp. randome Apr 2013 #9

In the 21st Century we are part of the media - as small a part as any individual blog may be Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #13

But even you mention the importance of 'mainstream commentators'. randome Apr 2013 #14

Of course Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #59

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #10

"forcing Republicans to give an inch, but lose the war for Democrats" Armstead Apr 2013 #12

+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #16

Triangulating is a stupid strategy unless you don't want to win. bemildred Apr 2013 #17

Obama is a great speech giver but a WEAK president IMO. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #28

That is why Obama has made it very hard for future Democrats to win an election. dotymed Apr 2013 #47

^^THIS^^ bvar22 Apr 2013 #66

The Public now sees two parties each promising to reform Social Security by cutting it Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #68

If Dems want more votes, they should move left where the disenfranchised reside ... Scuba Apr 2013 #18

^^ What Scuba said ^^ Myrina Apr 2013 #19

The worshippers here don't care about SS, poor people, the elderly, disabled and vets. Dino's ? L0oniX Apr 2013 #26

You're making too much sense. Stop now or be attacked by Dino's. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #29

But they dont, do they? demwing Apr 2013 #30

A general strike? Scuba Apr 2013 #31

That would be a great, non-violent option demwing Apr 2013 #34

A one-day general strike wouldn't require "long haul" sacrifices ... Scuba Apr 2013 #51

Because they have the money, we need the enthusiasm Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #53

I agree h2ebits Apr 2013 #42

Where's the money in that? /nt Marr Apr 2013 #45

alienating the Democratic base stregnthens obama's ability to deal with republicons noiretextatique Apr 2013 #92

this is utter false equivalence mopinko Apr 2013 #21

Um, the Republican base is scaring the shit out of that party's leadership Armstead Apr 2013 #56

um, the tea party was built to give them cover for what they really want. mopinko Apr 2013 #64

UM, I think the GOP leadership is mlore centrist than the Teabaggers Armstead Apr 2013 #73

"...give an inch, but lose the war for Democrats KoKo Apr 2013 #23

Obama is no FDR ...and never could be. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #25

Did FDR have an obstructionist Congress comprised of the opposing party? randome Apr 2013 #27

FDR used the bully pulpit against them. Our coward wants to be friends with them. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #32

I get you. randome Apr 2013 #40

Who has boxed who into a corner? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #62

IF he wanted to drive home the point that Republicans are all that's standing in the way... randome Apr 2013 #63

Doing what he can? He gives great speeches, why isn't he firing up the country & calling them out? mother earth Apr 2013 #33

...because he is weak ...and now the repukes are smelling blood. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #41

Weakness by design, how sweet for the benefactors, sucks for the taxpayers though. nt mother earth Apr 2013 #48

Look up the CCC zeemike Apr 2013 #43

Consider this Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #61

Excellent post and and excellent OP BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #82

FDR had a fucking armed coup, but he kept pressing for the average person. efom dotymed Apr 2013 #77

It's this vast undecided "middle" that exists only in the minds of the DC Villagers. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #35

Bill Clinton stood up to the kill whitey faction of his base Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #37

"Standing up to the Left" is much easier than Standing up to the Republicans for Obama. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #38

Is your brain smoking? Or, what are you smoking? Try decafe. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #39

Thanks for the Kick n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #52

The Republicns won't accept disndat Apr 2013 #46

Then he should be blaring it over the soundwaves, he should be using his presidency for that at the mother earth Apr 2013 #49

He did win the 2012 election treestar Apr 2013 #50

You are correct there is no where else to go, that being said this is decline of American Democracy. gordianot Apr 2013 #54

It is not a matter of where to go, you live in a society treestar Apr 2013 #70

We live in a Society in which... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #71

Romney won the election for him Armstead Apr 2013 #55

Wow you will not give Obama credit for anything treestar Apr 2013 #69

I give him credit for some things...but he often disappoints Armstead Apr 2013 #72

I'll give him credit for guns right now for example Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #74

Yes Romney bumbled, but more damning is what he openly represented Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #86

That's what I indirectly meant with the word "butthead" Armstead Apr 2013 #87

gotcha, lol n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #88

the sister souljah thing was 100% theatrics. sister souljah is a fake too. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #58

so how/where does all of this political trouble for Obama manifest itself? bigtree Apr 2013 #60

Unfortunately, his 3rd Way base is NOT protesting his conservative policies. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #65

if the protest involved the base supporting something unpopular - that could - but the base and 80% Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #67

I think Obama's Social Security cuts, and that is what the local NCarolinawoman Apr 2013 #75

So, you are saying you should have voted for Hillary-gosh darn, we all are going to in 2016 graham4anything Apr 2013 #76

Evidently the Left doesn't play Hyperchess. Rex Apr 2013 #78

Agreed. Now name what political price you will pay for what you want. PO has never had the backing patrice Apr 2013 #80

I would not have cut a fiscal cliff deal before all of the Bush tax cuts expired. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #85

I'm sure if you took a poll of 20 people, you'd get about 45 different ideas... randome Apr 2013 #89

I was only offering a direct answer to a direct question Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #90

Understood. randome Apr 2013 #91