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28. it isn't necessarily self-hatred

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:03 PM

Apr 2013

that has something to do with it, but it's more shame-based.

and with mixed race people (if you appear white enough), the identity struggle is interesting to say the least.

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Krugman on Who is Obama trying to Impress? [View all] cthulu2016 Apr 2013 OP

Why offer up something that has nothing to do with the deficit? neverforget Apr 2013 #1

Well I have been told that he isn't 'serious'. He's just trying to show the public that Republicans sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #10

You sum up the situation JEB Apr 2013 #15

"11 dimensional cluster fuck" - I hope you copyrighted that one. SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2013 #35

Sounds like Mr. Evil Apr 2013 #134

Mybe he's not trying to impress anyone.,.just trying to do his job as he sees it. Good! nt kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #135

Perfect! broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #39

+1000 n/t truebluegreen Apr 2013 #115

"He should have stayed in the Senate." SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #133

Nice. blackspade Apr 2013 #40

At some point, they'll grow tired of the games and just speak the truth. Right? Right??? reformist2 Apr 2013 #131

I've heard the same things.... KoKo Apr 2013 #19

+1 Except SOME people do care. Bernie comes to mind. gateley Apr 2013 #24

True, but out of over 200 Democratic Representatives only a very few care the way Bernie does. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #123

I know -- way too few. We can count them on one hand. gateley Apr 2013 #126

Goodness knows, I've tried Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #144

Maybe he should offer to resign for a deal? notadmblnd Apr 2013 #38

Well, that would be a better way to accomplish this goal of showing the public how Republicans sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #124

Why would people care if Republicans "don't like him"?..Who told him this is about HIM? whathehell Apr 2013 #77

Indeed. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #91

agree sajal58 Apr 2013 #101

Welcome to DU sajal58! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #127

sky is falling , again...., kardonb Apr 2013 #112

Leading in a reasonable, rational way? truebluegreen Apr 2013 #116

Well, we were told to stay calm during the Health Care debate. We were told not to worry, he really, sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #122

Agreed completely kenfrequed Apr 2013 #157

The Republicans will really like him when he gets the base so upset dflprincess Apr 2013 #120

As if the public John2 Apr 2013 #163

Because the Republicans don't like it AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #87

Then why not increase the cap? They don't like that either. neverforget Apr 2013 #97

Social Security = 'it' AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #104

Republican's don't like the raise the cap idea because it's a tax increase on business. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #136

Do nothing, and the trust fund will be exhausted eventually michigandem58 Apr 2013 #98

Baloney. Many of the baby boomers will be dead by the date of the pessimistic projections duffyduff Apr 2013 #106

So the trust fund will never be exhausted michigandem58 Apr 2013 #117

Raising employment and the cap will keep SS going for a hundred years. Without doing anything sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #125

Thank you Sabrina. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #137

You and I would raise the cap tomorrow michigandem58 Apr 2013 #150

Well, there have always been Republicans in Congress. They have different ideas about issues. That sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #156

Basically. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #149

Uhm... kenfrequed Apr 2013 #159

This is why the liberalmedia don't invite Krugman on their pundit shows tularetom Apr 2013 #2

Occams razor? Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #34

+1 Nailed it magellan Apr 2013 #44

By their fruits shall you know them. wilsonbooks Apr 2013 #48

Hard thing to admit-- being played/duped, that is. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #138

Succinctly put. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #63

WINNER BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #71

YOU GOT IT Maven Apr 2013 #74

Exactly! FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #83

Agreed PBO is the compromised President. Why would the GOP run him when they can let the Democratic Vincardog Apr 2013 #92

Yeap, shouldah voted for Romney....not like bashers have been soooooo wrong before uponit7771 Apr 2013 #111

Oh, puhleese. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #118

Actually, he's on quite a bit. Not as often as others.. JHB Apr 2013 #51

He is usually on the more serious sunday shows AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #88

He's not on wingnut welfare. He does have to show up for a job... JHB Apr 2013 #93

K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #3

Thank you! K&R. This is madness. myrna minx Apr 2013 #4

I just don't understand... RGinNJ Apr 2013 #5

One might almost conclude that it isn't supposed to. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #6

Welcome to DU! Phlem Apr 2013 #58

Can you imagine canvassing if these cuts go through? WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #64

Obama is either an idiot or a shill, or so naive as to be unbelievable. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #7

It's hard to think of another choice. Look at his cabinent and his chiefs of staff for quidance. byeya Apr 2013 #17

Of the 3 choices lark Apr 2013 #32

You know what? I think you are right. Trojan horse really fits the bill. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #52

Yep. You nailed it. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #109

Bingo! Fuddnik Apr 2013 #60

I ascribe to the trojan horse theory as well. NorthCarolina Apr 2013 #85

The term 'Trojan (Dem Mascot)' was floating around here, but I think it was banned.... grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #95

The more cynical explanation is Manchurian candidate. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #110

A shill slipped inside a Trojan Horse. n/t Ligyron Apr 2013 #154

Shill. Definitely. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #119

he is not an idiot and he is not naive Skittles Apr 2013 #68

The first two, methinks. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #107

I vote shill. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #139

The Bus for Krugman is comoing in 5,4.3...........2............ Armstead Apr 2013 #8

At least we know what to get him for Christmas cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #9

Naw, Krugman has a Ferris-wheel seat... JHB Apr 2013 #53

K&R I think we know that he is not trying to impress anyone. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #11

The eternal quest for David Brooks' love continues. bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #12

Unfortunately this is all too true Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #16

Man if I could get a holiday greeting card from Brooks I'd bust me buttons! byeya Apr 2013 #18

I am totally sick of it! This is not what I voted for last November. Harriety Apr 2013 #13

That Leadership(TM) canard gets me pissed off and it pisses off Krugman as well Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #14

i've been reluctant to put it on paper, my thoughts aren't even clear on this, but here goes: datasuspect Apr 2013 #20

I heard a Black guy call in to a radio show and he gave a similar reason for gateley Apr 2013 #26

it isn't necessarily self-hatred datasuspect Apr 2013 #28

That was the caller's call, not mine -- but I think you've identified it better. gateley Apr 2013 #30

i understand datasuspect Apr 2013 #31

i think income level has more to do with it, just like with whites. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #49

Income -- $$ -- is always a factor. gateley Apr 2013 #54

I am part of the male white majority so I really cant speak from experience but rhett o rick Apr 2013 #86

I'm White, too, so can't speak from first-hand experience, but I wonder if it's not so much a shame gateley Apr 2013 #90

I was just going to say he is trying to impress white people. The Link Apr 2013 #33

It sucks that you have to endure the bigotry of others. blackspade Apr 2013 #37

This old Cracker agrees with you... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #81

Not just a multiracial thing idlisambar Apr 2013 #66

very interesting insight datasuspect Apr 2013 #67

Good points. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #72

Grandma was a white bank vice president carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #80

I've been saying this for the beginning about Obama's Presidency LovingA2andMI Apr 2013 #164

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #21

AutoKrugmanDURec KG Apr 2013 #22

No big surprise from the 'corporate president'.... dmosh42 Apr 2013 #23

If it's all just showbiz, it's a flop. We already know he's a centrist and so do the Repubs. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #25

Krugman nails it again KennedyBrothers Apr 2013 #27

Welcome and k/r 840high Apr 2013 #62

Hammer, meet nail. blackspade Apr 2013 #29

Who? This guy and his friends: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #36

Have we ever seen Dimon and Chuck Hagel in the same place? cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #42

Now that you mention it, ... AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #45

The president's strategy JackHughes Apr 2013 #41

Obama's proposal to cut Social Security just destroyed Democratic chances in the 2014 midterm. ieoeja Apr 2013 #47

The Republican House JackHughes Apr 2013 #50

So to avoid doing nothing, he should cut Social Security. I think I have a better idea. ieoeja Apr 2013 #55

Strategy JackHughes Apr 2013 #57

Worst. Plan. Ever. dawg Apr 2013 #94

Betraying your base, independents, seniors, the youth vote truebluegreen Apr 2013 #121

Oh Gawd! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #140

That's the horseshit talking point from about 3 weeks ago. Marr Apr 2013 #147

that ain`t going to happen madrchsod Apr 2013 #59

Democrats and strategy JackHughes Apr 2013 #61

by proposing to decimate one of the fundamental pillars of the New Deal datasuspect Apr 2013 #73

"(Acting like a Centrist)..a posture these people take to make themselves seem noble and superior." Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #43

K&R - this man is a genius. closeupready Apr 2013 #46

he doesn't want to - says he's more effective influencing the debate where he is now BelgianMadCow Apr 2013 #96

another homerun frylock Apr 2013 #56

Remember that time GWB tried to appease the Democrats? Blue Owl Apr 2013 #65

Q: Who is Obama trying to impress? blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #69

To take Krugman's question a step further . . . markpkessinger Apr 2013 #70

THAT is the question, isn't it? CTyankee Apr 2013 #99

CENTRISM!!!! ... because its so EASY! bvar22 Apr 2013 #75

Wow, I miss Paul Wellstone. MzNov Apr 2013 #78

Not true. Centrism DOES stand for something: JHB Apr 2013 #79

Not just that--those with wealth are more deserving of honor and respect. No matter what they did to Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2013 #155

Another daily thumbs up for Krugman MzNov Apr 2013 #76

President Obama thinks his policies would be considered 1980s GOPer... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #82

The only time this President and the powers that be within the party Moses2SandyKoufax Apr 2013 #100

He's trying to dismantle the very foundations of this nation. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #84

He's doing it to public education. The GOP in Washington aren't doing this. It's him. duffyduff Apr 2013 #108

Completely agree. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #114

This: ProSense Apr 2013 #89

Obama needs to put forward ways which makes republicans lose their seats Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2013 #102

And in my estimation ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #129

Okay, then. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #141

What are you talking about ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #143

Read your own posts. Learn to follow a thread. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #158

He nails it. vi5 Apr 2013 #103

Answer to the question: Peter J. Peterson n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #105

Trying to impress The American people, a big group of which still believe Repubs are sane. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #113

I offer ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #128

Well, you have a thesis. I respect that. cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #130

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #132

I agree with most daybranch Apr 2013 #142

One thing is for sure... Jasana Apr 2013 #145

Krugman explains things very well Babel_17 Apr 2013 #146

Hopefully the administration is now jettisoning its association with the Chained CPI Babel_17 Apr 2013 #148

I've always felt that the Pres. Teamster Jeff Apr 2013 #151

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #152

I kind of see it as Obama trying to MUSTER the grownups to stand up BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #153

How is he doing that? He has offered cuts to SS. That is NOT 'mustering adults', that is catering sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #160

sorry I wasn't clear....I was talking about the last several years. Not this CPI debacle. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #161

Sorry I misunderstood you sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #162

yeah datasuspect Apr 2013 #165