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In reply to the discussion: Muslim Women Shockingly Not Grateful for Topless European Ladies Trying To Save Them [View all]seabeyond
(110,159 posts)37. not really doing shit in ukraine and tunisia either.
just a hay day of pictures of a handful of girls running around yelling, topless.
have they every accomplished a single things anywhere? after a year of reading about femen, i would say an easy, no.
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redqueen
Apr 2013
OP
Agree! I gotten to the point where, if it's from a certain group, it goes to trash, this is really
Katashi_itto
Apr 2013
#226
Do you think attributing comments by anonymous internet posters to Femen makes your point?
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#122
Why bother, when your thesis statement was so astoundingly intellectually dishonest?
opiate69
Apr 2013
#136
Great point, maddezmom ... though I've yet to actually see a STFU said to anyone here. nt.
polly7
Apr 2013
#139
Amina is a Muslim woman working in her own cultural context in her own country
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#10
Yes.. because your "bloggers" are more accurate than Tunisia's actual constitution...
opiate69
Apr 2013
#21
How dare you to imply someone should actually read the source! The blogger somewhere
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#221
Amina took her action in direct response to the growing Islamist threat
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#28
What part of "Islam is the OFFICIAL STATE religion" is hard to understand? nt
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#18
"People are working so hard to manufacture reality based on what they want to be true."
opiate69
Apr 2013
#22
Yes. And nowhere did I say that muslimahs support Islamic fundamentalists nt
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#13
Are you using 'girls' to put these women down, or do you believe they're minors?
polly7
Apr 2013
#46
knowing that anti- Muslim sentiment and bigotry are on the rise in Europe, I wish Femen had
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#25
You do know that their support was for a "local feminist" Amina, a Muslim woman
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#34
from what I read all their "support" is virtual- and she only "joined" immediately prior to her
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#63
so Femen might possibly be helping her? OK. Maybe the younger generation needed a refresher course
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#68
Hmmm, I agree with Femen that Catholicism is pretty awful to women. Forced birthing and all...
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#67
You'll note that I was talking about "are", while you insist on talking about "were".
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2013
#219
Personally I could be wrong but from what I'm seeing alot of it has to do with
Arcanetrance
Apr 2013
#26
yeah, when you combine that with their lack of policy goals or work WITHIN the community
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#81
Well, I hope FEMEN is thoughfully processing the reactions it has provoked.
Comrade Grumpy
Apr 2013
#29
And, you do realize that freedom is under threat, right??? Hence the protesting???
opiate69
Apr 2013
#192
Brutal oppression of women? NEVER EVER OKAY, well except if it is done by Muslims.
Kurska
Apr 2013
#38
But they're nothing but a European version of Girls Gone Wild drunk on activism instead of booze!
JVS
Apr 2013
#80
I'm a feminist. I believe in the equality of the sexes in all times and in all places.
Kurska
Apr 2013
#44
did you see they knocked a nude dancer off the stage and jumped up to rip their shirts off?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#94
They disrupted a womans rights conference, said the women there talk too much, LOL.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#193
thanks- now what do you think of them hijacking a woman;s right;s conference? or peeing in public
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#195
Meh.. I'm a big fan of poking the "powers that be" in the eye with a big fucking stick..
opiate69
Apr 2013
#197
change- like the toilets and heat? and closing brothels? it appears they ditched for greener
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#198
Well, I'm sure they'll appreciate you letting them know which causes are important enough.
opiate69
Apr 2013
#199
Yes well as bettyellen has said, no protest is authentic without an action plan!
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#200
I'm sorry Femen had no impact in Russia aside from getting pics published.... no new public toilets
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#210
"you do not support EEOC law" I very much do and this conversation is over for that remark.
Kurska
Apr 2013
#181
Nice find! Didn't know one can create sock puppets and not get their arse booted out
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#222
As I remember it, creating a sock in and of itself is supposedly OK... however,
opiate69
Apr 2013
#229
am interested to know the answer, will keep an eye on it. thanks for the info. :)
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#230
Wait ... what? If "solidarity" is the problem, where's the support for Femen?
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#70
I'm trying to figure out HOW you support Femen- is "liking them" on Facebook what they want?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#73
Name one single social accomplishment in the history of the world that wasn't done
polly7
Apr 2013
#75
who didn't know about religions being patriarchal? I guess kids on FB. the only place in the world
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#76
I'm sorry if you don't like that the whole world is more interested in their method than their msg
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#86
when they have specific legislation and pols targeted I think they are usually great....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#91
you left out the feminst confrence -"they talk too much" and public toilets....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#196
i think "one off" photo opportunities are what they are. and it's great they had policy recs for
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#126
so you think they are both wrong and wasting their time, and I'm the one attacking them?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#105
Wont even sneer when you compare them to Sheehan, who had very detailed criticism of Bush's foreign
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#115
actually, it's people like me and other activists who find this an interesting topic to discuss...
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#93
If you're going to host Oppression Olympics for Islamic women, perhaps you and Femen could recuse
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#99
They seem to be delivering a message. Giving a fair listen would be a start.
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#83
I'm trying to figure out if they have any realistic goals or message..Ending religion's influence on
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#90
ha ha, you do realize, men are ALSO ordered to keep clothes on, right? yeah. No one's #1 issue....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#130
Sorry but this is getting old. Amina doesn't need you to tell her @ her message
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#135
i'm sorry if you confuse indifference towards this protest with sneering at a person
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#171
Of course, the people who set up the Facebook page are at the University of Birmingham in the UK
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#218
i agree in many ways- but I don't think that the animosity was towards Amina herself,
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#132
You read that post, though, right? It didn't take the tone the headline suggests.
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#137
And yet every single one of posters who disagree with FEMEN can't stop talking about nudity, menz
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#225
Article after article posted about Femen- all about their boobies. We were OT.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#228
Is there any evidence that "Muslimah Pride Day" is organised by feminists?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#82
Sure, the politicians pushing for Sharia law in Tunisia will tell you so, just ask them.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#120
Phyllis Schlafly wasn't grateful to fellow American women for their efforts to pass the ERA.
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#87
count me as another to agree with you for the first... well the second time actually
arely staircase
Apr 2013
#106
Faked photo of Femen using antisemitic slogans posted to the anti-Femen Facebook page
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#129
Right. "The Shoah is a Hoax"... Like they'd be putting Holocaust Denial on there.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#131
are they only anti Islam and Catholic then? From what I read it appears they want to destroy
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#140
just asking an honest "question". I saw they protested the pope. And cannot find it now, but read
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#155
well they ARE extremist when it comes to Islam, so I guess they thought it would be credible.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#162
Not at all having a contest here, but totally hating a religion is extremist also, no?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#167
it's telling how people are trying to use the issue to slime people here- for having opinions!
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#182
with any tactic-one needs to ask -"Do you want to ventilate or do you want to advance your cause?"
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2013
#138
the united states hasn't been around for 1800 years, but on issues like abortion, gay rights
JI7
Apr 2013
#145
Then, the average American probably can't understand the depth of anger some Europeans have
opiate69
Apr 2013
#148
So then, leaving the nudity aside, I for one can completely understand the comments about the pope,
opiate69
Apr 2013
#151
Everybody thinks the "opposing team's" protest tactics are a bad way to win support.
opiate69
Apr 2013
#154
it's controversial. you should feel free to read up on it, discuss and sort out your feelings here
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#169
Surprisingly, they also object when Westerners protest stoning people to death. nt
Bonobo
Apr 2013
#189
BB, if you are suggesting that all criticism and protesting should be done by prioritization...
Bonobo
Apr 2013
#206