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In reply to the discussion: Muslim Women Shockingly Not Grateful for Topless European Ladies Trying To Save Them [View all]opiate69
(10,129 posts)12. Typical disingenuous parsing bullshit..
Religion
Main articles: Religion in Tunisia and Islam in Tunisia
The Great Mosque of Kairouan
The majority of Tunisia's population (around 98%)are Muslims while about 1% follow Christianity and the remaining 1% adhere to Judaism or other religions.[81] The bulk of Tunisians belong to the Maliki School of Sunni Islam and their mosques are easily recognizable by square minarets. However, the Turks brought with them the teaching of the Hanafi School during the Ottoman rule which still survives among the Turkish descended families today, their mosques traditionally have octagonal minarets.[103]
Main articles: Religion in Tunisia and Islam in Tunisia
The Great Mosque of Kairouan
The majority of Tunisia's population (around 98%)are Muslims while about 1% follow Christianity and the remaining 1% adhere to Judaism or other religions.[81] The bulk of Tunisians belong to the Maliki School of Sunni Islam and their mosques are easily recognizable by square minarets. However, the Turks brought with them the teaching of the Hanafi School during the Ottoman rule which still survives among the Turkish descended families today, their mosques traditionally have octagonal minarets.[103]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia#Religion
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The constitution declares Islam as the official state religion and requires the President to be Muslim. Aside from the president, Tunisians enjoy a significant degree of religious freedom, a right enshrined and protected in its constitution, which guarantees the freedom to practice one's religion.[105]
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Muslim Women Shockingly Not Grateful for Topless European Ladies Trying To Save Them [View all]
redqueen
Apr 2013
OP
Agree! I gotten to the point where, if it's from a certain group, it goes to trash, this is really
Katashi_itto
Apr 2013
#226
Do you think attributing comments by anonymous internet posters to Femen makes your point?
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#122
Why bother, when your thesis statement was so astoundingly intellectually dishonest?
opiate69
Apr 2013
#136
Great point, maddezmom ... though I've yet to actually see a STFU said to anyone here. nt.
polly7
Apr 2013
#139
Amina is a Muslim woman working in her own cultural context in her own country
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#10
Yes.. because your "bloggers" are more accurate than Tunisia's actual constitution...
opiate69
Apr 2013
#21
How dare you to imply someone should actually read the source! The blogger somewhere
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#221
Amina took her action in direct response to the growing Islamist threat
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#28
What part of "Islam is the OFFICIAL STATE religion" is hard to understand? nt
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#18
"People are working so hard to manufacture reality based on what they want to be true."
opiate69
Apr 2013
#22
Yes. And nowhere did I say that muslimahs support Islamic fundamentalists nt
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#13
Are you using 'girls' to put these women down, or do you believe they're minors?
polly7
Apr 2013
#46
knowing that anti- Muslim sentiment and bigotry are on the rise in Europe, I wish Femen had
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#25
You do know that their support was for a "local feminist" Amina, a Muslim woman
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#34
from what I read all their "support" is virtual- and she only "joined" immediately prior to her
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#63
so Femen might possibly be helping her? OK. Maybe the younger generation needed a refresher course
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#68
Hmmm, I agree with Femen that Catholicism is pretty awful to women. Forced birthing and all...
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#67
You'll note that I was talking about "are", while you insist on talking about "were".
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2013
#219
Personally I could be wrong but from what I'm seeing alot of it has to do with
Arcanetrance
Apr 2013
#26
yeah, when you combine that with their lack of policy goals or work WITHIN the community
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#81
Well, I hope FEMEN is thoughfully processing the reactions it has provoked.
Comrade Grumpy
Apr 2013
#29
And, you do realize that freedom is under threat, right??? Hence the protesting???
opiate69
Apr 2013
#192
Brutal oppression of women? NEVER EVER OKAY, well except if it is done by Muslims.
Kurska
Apr 2013
#38
But they're nothing but a European version of Girls Gone Wild drunk on activism instead of booze!
JVS
Apr 2013
#80
I'm a feminist. I believe in the equality of the sexes in all times and in all places.
Kurska
Apr 2013
#44
did you see they knocked a nude dancer off the stage and jumped up to rip their shirts off?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#94
They disrupted a womans rights conference, said the women there talk too much, LOL.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#193
thanks- now what do you think of them hijacking a woman;s right;s conference? or peeing in public
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#195
Meh.. I'm a big fan of poking the "powers that be" in the eye with a big fucking stick..
opiate69
Apr 2013
#197
change- like the toilets and heat? and closing brothels? it appears they ditched for greener
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#198
Well, I'm sure they'll appreciate you letting them know which causes are important enough.
opiate69
Apr 2013
#199
Yes well as bettyellen has said, no protest is authentic without an action plan!
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#200
I'm sorry Femen had no impact in Russia aside from getting pics published.... no new public toilets
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#210
"you do not support EEOC law" I very much do and this conversation is over for that remark.
Kurska
Apr 2013
#181
Nice find! Didn't know one can create sock puppets and not get their arse booted out
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#222
As I remember it, creating a sock in and of itself is supposedly OK... however,
opiate69
Apr 2013
#229
am interested to know the answer, will keep an eye on it. thanks for the info. :)
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#230
Wait ... what? If "solidarity" is the problem, where's the support for Femen?
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#70
I'm trying to figure out HOW you support Femen- is "liking them" on Facebook what they want?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#73
Name one single social accomplishment in the history of the world that wasn't done
polly7
Apr 2013
#75
who didn't know about religions being patriarchal? I guess kids on FB. the only place in the world
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#76
I'm sorry if you don't like that the whole world is more interested in their method than their msg
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#86
when they have specific legislation and pols targeted I think they are usually great....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#91
you left out the feminst confrence -"they talk too much" and public toilets....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#196
i think "one off" photo opportunities are what they are. and it's great they had policy recs for
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#126
so you think they are both wrong and wasting their time, and I'm the one attacking them?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#105
Wont even sneer when you compare them to Sheehan, who had very detailed criticism of Bush's foreign
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#115
actually, it's people like me and other activists who find this an interesting topic to discuss...
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#93
If you're going to host Oppression Olympics for Islamic women, perhaps you and Femen could recuse
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#99
They seem to be delivering a message. Giving a fair listen would be a start.
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#83
I'm trying to figure out if they have any realistic goals or message..Ending religion's influence on
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#90
ha ha, you do realize, men are ALSO ordered to keep clothes on, right? yeah. No one's #1 issue....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#130
Sorry but this is getting old. Amina doesn't need you to tell her @ her message
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#135
i'm sorry if you confuse indifference towards this protest with sneering at a person
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#171
Of course, the people who set up the Facebook page are at the University of Birmingham in the UK
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#218
i agree in many ways- but I don't think that the animosity was towards Amina herself,
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#132
You read that post, though, right? It didn't take the tone the headline suggests.
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#137
And yet every single one of posters who disagree with FEMEN can't stop talking about nudity, menz
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#225
Article after article posted about Femen- all about their boobies. We were OT.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#228
Is there any evidence that "Muslimah Pride Day" is organised by feminists?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#82
Sure, the politicians pushing for Sharia law in Tunisia will tell you so, just ask them.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#120
Phyllis Schlafly wasn't grateful to fellow American women for their efforts to pass the ERA.
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#87
count me as another to agree with you for the first... well the second time actually
arely staircase
Apr 2013
#106
Faked photo of Femen using antisemitic slogans posted to the anti-Femen Facebook page
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#129
Right. "The Shoah is a Hoax"... Like they'd be putting Holocaust Denial on there.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#131
are they only anti Islam and Catholic then? From what I read it appears they want to destroy
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#140
just asking an honest "question". I saw they protested the pope. And cannot find it now, but read
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#155
well they ARE extremist when it comes to Islam, so I guess they thought it would be credible.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#162
Not at all having a contest here, but totally hating a religion is extremist also, no?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#167
it's telling how people are trying to use the issue to slime people here- for having opinions!
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#182
with any tactic-one needs to ask -"Do you want to ventilate or do you want to advance your cause?"
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2013
#138
the united states hasn't been around for 1800 years, but on issues like abortion, gay rights
JI7
Apr 2013
#145
Then, the average American probably can't understand the depth of anger some Europeans have
opiate69
Apr 2013
#148
So then, leaving the nudity aside, I for one can completely understand the comments about the pope,
opiate69
Apr 2013
#151
Everybody thinks the "opposing team's" protest tactics are a bad way to win support.
opiate69
Apr 2013
#154
it's controversial. you should feel free to read up on it, discuss and sort out your feelings here
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#169
Surprisingly, they also object when Westerners protest stoning people to death. nt
Bonobo
Apr 2013
#189
BB, if you are suggesting that all criticism and protesting should be done by prioritization...
Bonobo
Apr 2013
#206