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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
211. You've shown nothing.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:45 PM
Apr 2013

You've made unsupported allegations based on a common practice among peer reviewed journals: charging for publication expenses.
You imply that Open Access is some sort of indictment when, in fact, all major universities are moving to a policy requiring faculty to sign agreements to use Open Access journals to the maximum extent possible.
Now you post a prank that is unvalidated. The prank submission did not get published, it was kicked back by initial review for revisions and was never distributed for peer review.

It did not, in other words, pass peer review.

The process working as described is not a point for your position no matter how you twist the logic for your amusement. You can tell yourself that it would have been published if the fee had been paid, but the fact is you have zero evidence to support that belief.

This is one hell of a big PR mess... Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #1
PR? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #18
Public Relations. Read the pro-Nuclear takes on the accidents at Fukushima and Chernobyl... Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #23
And right here on DU Warpy Apr 2013 #129
Opinions vary. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #179
I'm not talking about a difference of opinion Warpy Apr 2013 #198
Imagine what Chernobyl.did to children. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #2
Lots of peer-reviewed studies say more that a million.. Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #4
I'm surprised the hand waving hasn't already began madokie Apr 2013 #6
Right again Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #38
I engaged the content of the publication caraher Apr 2013 #50
Quoting you to you kristopher Apr 2013 #144
OK, you're right, this sub-thread isn't about the content of the paper caraher Apr 2013 #166
I'll repeat the same point I've made to you many times before kristopher Apr 2013 #173
Outrage? caraher Apr 2013 #197
Anonymous discussion is filled with pitfalls... kristopher Apr 2013 #202
LOL, did you even read the post? You people seem to think.... Logical Apr 2013 #116
The OP *IS* the hand waving. FBaggins Apr 2013 #60
oh look, it's Mr. "nothing to see here, move along please..." CreekDog Apr 2013 #120
Nope FBaggins Apr 2013 #126
Not only that.. RobertEarl Apr 2013 #131
Do you understand what a 28% rise in CH means? caseymoz Apr 2013 #154
You are the only one panicing RobertEarl Apr 2013 #181
She's right. kristopher Apr 2013 #191
Hi kris RobertEarl Apr 2013 #192
Me? After I've seen estimates of 1.8 million deaths . . . caseymoz Apr 2013 #194
Of course the % is correct RobertEarl Apr 2013 #195
I'm not the only one questioning you RobertEarl Apr 2013 #196
Keep doing the math Generic Other Apr 2013 #205
100 out of every million = 1/10,000 Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #212
Ack you're right my math sucks Generic Other Apr 2013 #215
It's still a lot Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #216
Now I just worry about the Korean kid Generic Other Apr 2013 #217
North Korea seems to harbor a special animosity towards Japan Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #218
Nope FBaggins Apr 2013 #56
Increased radiation levels were measured from Chernobyl as far away as Florida davidn3600 Apr 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2013 #17
Elena bikes thru Chernobyl - a look at Chernobyl today womanofthehills Apr 2013 #140
I remember her. She confessed to faking the pics Generic Other Apr 2013 #201
Kinda like dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #3
There has been so much suffering from depleted uranium, and other chemicals loudsue Apr 2013 #39
probably 99% of sickness is environmental and dietary Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #40
You are most likely correct IMHO. loudsue Apr 2013 #41
+1 gazillion valerief Apr 2013 #151
Shit. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #5
I was at a talk given by Dr. Helen Caldicutt PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2013 #7
What does that mean: "inhaled hot particles at a 1 in 5 ratio"? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #20
Particulate matter PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2013 #90
Interesting. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #92
She's a long-retired pediatrician FBaggins Apr 2013 #85
And you are? PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2013 #88
By comparison, yes. FBaggins Apr 2013 #93
What exactly do you find so ridiculous? PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2013 #96
Goodness... where to start. FBaggins Apr 2013 #99
What are your credentials? PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2013 #109
Ten fingers and ten toes. FBaggins Apr 2013 #111
Stop kidding yourself Generic Other Apr 2013 #204
Well ... she is an expert in pediatrics and has been studying radiation for quite some time. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #95
Not even that. No. FBaggins Apr 2013 #97
An active practice isn't the basis for being an expert. kristopher Apr 2013 #146
She fails by any other standard as well. FBaggins Apr 2013 #157
I notice that she has a handful of anti-nuclear letters in scientific journals. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #167
You are the last person in the world to accept an opinion from kristopher Apr 2013 #172
do you have an example? It would save me an hour of watching the YouTube video. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #165
even most laymen understand that skin cancer comes from to much sun. Sunlei Apr 2013 #101
So? FBaggins Apr 2013 #103
"Don't worry about the radiation"???? roomtomove Apr 2013 #125
Did you quote so far out of context intentionally? FBaggins Apr 2013 #159
Respectfully, her claim is flat out ridiculous. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #134
For the sake of fairness, the other side MAD Dave Apr 2013 #8
Industry Propaganda To Create Illusion Of Credibility cantbeserious Apr 2013 #9
Well, coal really is dirty and deadly. And if our only choice was dirty coal or nuclear.... Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #10
Pragmatist MAD Dave Apr 2013 #11
Nuclear Energy is the solution to the energy crisis just like caviar is the solution to world hunger Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #12
+1000 nt LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #13
Cut out the massive taxpayer subsidies that nuclear has gotten, and is getting, and you'd find byeya Apr 2013 #14
Economic analyses don't support that contention. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #22
Are you kidding me? Even the CEO of GE says nuclear is not economic. Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #27
good article, plus we can generate gas from our waste with Plasma gasification. Sunlei Apr 2013 #47
Yes they do. kristopher Apr 2013 #147
Have you looked at this at all? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #164
Yes. kristopher Apr 2013 #174
So, you were aware of Junkdrawer's post, but decided to repeat it? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #175
"An" economic analysis? kristopher Apr 2013 #177
You first. Post your data, and I will follow. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #178
Please don't try to make this into some sort of game. kristopher Apr 2013 #183
No, I said that economic analyses did not support the notion... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #187
I thought the caviar phrasing was apt. kristopher Apr 2013 #190
I agree. And it is far to risky. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #26
Fine. DeSwiss Apr 2013 #148
Mining uranium is dirty womanofthehills Apr 2013 #45
bullshit Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #21
Read The Article - Have Seen Similar In My Engineering Career cantbeserious Apr 2013 #30
I read the article before replying to you. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #35
do some research roomtomove Apr 2013 #123
So, you want me to do research by reading anti-nuke propaganda? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #130
That's research? roomtomove Apr 2013 #136
Did you read the article in C&E News in the opening comment of this subthread? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #161
I've worked with young Navajo kids dying from bone cancer womanofthehills Apr 2013 #139
I think you and I are not discussing the same issue. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #163
Yes, you can't be serious or haven't read the article. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #24
Read The Article And Don't Agree cantbeserious Apr 2013 #29
And your opinion is worth exactly as much time as you put into defending it: nothing, in this case. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #33
"eom" means "end of messsage." Like "nt" (no text), tblue37 Apr 2013 #124
All those who say bullshit: read the article. The highly respected Jim Hansen participated. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #28
Excellent response. Thank you for taking the time. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #36
You are quite welcome. I love DU when people get into analysis and reasoned debate. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #37
You have your facts wrong and you don't grasp the economics at work kristopher Apr 2013 #149
You have your reading comprehension wrong & you don't grasp I said nothing in favour of nuclear. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #169
Would you explain where I misread your meaning, please? kristopher Apr 2013 #180
Sure Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #182
That part was clear. kristopher Apr 2013 #184
... because we are not Denmark and the Republicans are not Denmarkian, for starters. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #185
Renewable capacity is growing by leaps and bounds kristopher Apr 2013 #188
+1, except I'd use "cost trendline" instead of "learning curve". nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #189
Yes, Bernardo RobertEarl Apr 2013 #193
But renewable non-carbon is just not going to pick up all the slack in the next 37 years??? roomtomove Apr 2013 #127
Aside from thyroid problems, those with high doses in Japan will be susceptible to Dustlawyer Apr 2013 #16
Nope FBaggins Apr 2013 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2013 #19
I think people pretty much know that potential dangers. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #25
From what i read in the E&E group from some of the posters darkangel218 Apr 2013 #32
You can understand the danger and still support nuclear. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #44
Contain the waste only? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #64
Worst case scenario at present nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #68
Well, now... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #71
Yes, anywhere and anytime. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #75
"contain the waste"????? roomtomove Apr 2013 #133
He'll be long gone RobertEarl Apr 2013 #137
You do realize that one of the biggest problems in Fukushima... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #162
where were you living?? Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2013 #43
I kept my nephews inside nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #53
Oh My - so Nadin was correct malaise Apr 2013 #31
I will have to read this thread nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #48
No, she wasn't... SidDithers Apr 2013 #55
These researchers are, at best, on the scientific fringe caraher Apr 2013 #34
Researchers with a history of misusing data... SidDithers Apr 2013 #46
Yeah, I guessed it would be those 2; I think they're more dishonest than Andrew Wakefield muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #49
Off-topic aside you might wish to consider. proverbialwisdom Apr 2013 #91
All about genes; nothing about vaccines; that doesn't vindicate Wakefield in the slightest muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #98
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #118
Are Sherman and Mangano as dishonest as the MIT Nuclear Dept researchers? kristopher Apr 2013 #145
No... they're many times as dishonest. FBaggins Apr 2013 #155
The MIT researchers did nothing more than pass along industry claims uncritically. kristopher Apr 2013 #176
The journal is peer reviewed. kristopher Apr 2013 #142
And the peer review consists of... SidDithers Apr 2013 #168
Apparently you know nothing of the process you are criticizing. kristopher Apr 2013 #203
Peer review so judicious, the same company accepted a paper generated by a random text generator... SidDithers Apr 2013 #206
A fictional web posting about a fictional academic at a fictional academic institution? kristopher Apr 2013 #209
... SidDithers Apr 2013 #210
You've shown nothing. kristopher Apr 2013 #211
Hilarious... SidDithers Apr 2013 #213
Sid, your criticisms are on a par with a witch hunt kristopher Apr 2013 #214
Yeah, that's what I thought... SidDithers Apr 2013 #219
I don't know precisely why... kristopher Apr 2013 #220
It's a nice big article about correlation with enough science-y terms to make people think it's Brickbat Apr 2013 #54
"At best" indeed FBaggins Apr 2013 #58
thank you for taking the time to explain this Kali Apr 2013 #78
The pediatrics paper is published in an open journal where you pay to get published. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #94
That is not at all unusual and says nothing about the quality of the publication. kristopher Apr 2013 #143
Plenty of bullets already upthread: data cherry picking is a big one. Bogus paper. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #170
How many of them are, like the one you made here, false? kristopher Apr 2013 #171
yes, I prefer to get my information from the consensus of the scientific community as a whole. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #121
very science-y cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #51
If those kids ate their daily bananas nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #52
And if their moms had just laid in a supply of aseptic milk as directed.... Brother Buzz Apr 2013 #61
The use and proliferation of nuclear energy/weapons will prove to be the stupidest endeavor Zorra Apr 2013 #59
I don't flipping believe it Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #62
The researchers have a history of misusing statistics... SidDithers Apr 2013 #70
I saw it, but in their defense Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #72
"lowered intelligence" = future hot spots for the GOP. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #63
Interesting. So my granddaughter was in kindergarten in Germany when Chernobyl happened. Does that jwirr Apr 2013 #65
Yes its possible. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #66
Yup, she was also much closer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #67
It's certainly possible... but unlikely. FBaggins Apr 2013 #74
My co-worker was studying in the Netherlands during that disaster malaise Apr 2013 #117
Talked with her mother and it seems that three generations have this problem. Grandma was never near jwirr Apr 2013 #122
Anyone who has studied radiobiology felix_numinous Apr 2013 #69
Of course they would be surprised. FBaggins Apr 2013 #73
There definitely is a link felix_numinous Apr 2013 #76
SOME thyroid diseases... and some amounts of exposure. FBaggins Apr 2013 #77
There is a link felix_numinous Apr 2013 #79
Nope. FBaggins Apr 2013 #81
Certainly time will tell felix_numinous Apr 2013 #82
Why are you doing this? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #83
Very simple FBaggins Apr 2013 #84
How am i being irrational? by purchasing a gieger counter, which i shouldve bought a long time ago? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #86
Among other things... yes. FBaggins Apr 2013 #87
Did i say that was the reason i bought it for? lmao! darkangel218 Apr 2013 #89
Yes... you did. FBaggins Apr 2013 #100
You obviously read this thread too, and saw i talked about Chernobyl and how unsafe nuclear plants darkangel218 Apr 2013 #102
You think anyone bought that? FBaggins Apr 2013 #104
There are a hundred or more power plants in the US and many more all over the world. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #106
Was that supposed to be a response? FBaggins Apr 2013 #107
Im not deflecting anything. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #108
Lol! How creative. FBaggins Apr 2013 #110
Bye bye. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #112
And you're entertaining me. FBaggins Apr 2013 #113
I feel sorry for Fb also RobertEarl Apr 2013 #114
Still can't debate without those strawmen, eh? FBaggins Apr 2013 #115
It is here RobertEarl Apr 2013 #119
Lol! I would have hidden the post too.. FBaggins Apr 2013 #160
The highest possible exposure on the West coast is thousands of times lower????????? roomtomove Apr 2013 #128
How entertaining. FBaggins Apr 2013 #158
But surely any effect is dose-dependent caraher Apr 2013 #80
How do you know the levels of exposure with any degree of confidence? kristopher Apr 2013 #150
Are you falling for Arnie's nonsense our spreading your own? FBaggins Apr 2013 #156
Fukushimi proves we are all connected lovuian Apr 2013 #105
Not to downplay Fukushima but how could this even be POSSIBLE? Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #132
Scary isn't it? RobertEarl Apr 2013 #135
The scary thing is that people are buying this. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #207
Whoa, dude RobertEarl Apr 2013 #208
It's a small world after all.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #138
NOAA video tracking Fukushima Radioactive Aerosol Dispersion kristopher Apr 2013 #141
You sir, are one of the DU's best treasures. chknltl Apr 2013 #152
Which means, instead of 4 in 10,000 births caseymoz Apr 2013 #153
The great "middle" kristopher Apr 2013 #186
Are you saying you should go by the tone and not the substance? caseymoz Apr 2013 #199
For science, you don't go by how it sounds. That would be... propaganda. kristopher Apr 2013 #200
Good website for this topic also marions ghost Apr 2013 #221
I had been dreading this...... MzShellG Apr 2013 #222
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