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In reply to the discussion: ‘Illegal immigrant’ no more [View all]Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)34. I'm not sure what to tell you.
AP has adopted this for now. Sounds like they've had a robust discussion of how they view the issue. I'm sure there will be a period of adaptation.
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Obviously you don't look to "Tropic Thunder" for language lessons... and it shows.
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#54
If you read "speed" as "drive without an operator's license" I can see why you insist on simplicity
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#64
Speeding does not make you an "illegal driver". Murder does not make you an "illegal immigrant".
ZOB
Apr 2013
#65
I tried to show him the wisdom of "Tropic Thunder"... but he wouldn't listen
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#70
ICE still uses that term & "illegal alien", while DHS uses "unauthorized immigrant"
alp227
Apr 2013
#77
More gobbledegook so we will all sound like politicians campaigning, with the effect that no one can
RC
Apr 2013
#4
Well, that certainly is a well reasoned comment... and ironic coming from a "historian"
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#47
But Immigration & Customs Enforcement still uses "illegal immigrant" and "illegal alien".
alp227
Apr 2013
#79
By your logic, if I sped to get "here" then I am "not here legally", so I am "an illegal"
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#57
Yeah, so instead of using simple descriptive words, we use long gobbledegook sentences
RC
Apr 2013
#83
Good! "Illegal" should not be used to describe a person whether they have broken driving laws
pampango
Apr 2013
#6
Yes. The depersonalizing term is connected to the rise of hate crimes against Latinos.
Starry Messenger
Apr 2013
#8
Editors in the media, from college newspapers to ... the AP, use the stylebook as Law
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#48
I don't think it'll be a big problem for most writers... unless they're simply limited by space.
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#50
You present a fine point... though I wrote that lede to specifically make it a relevant point.
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#76
Heh, maybe we should just do away with the media entirely and all entertain each other with lively
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#82
AP seems to be of the reasoned opinion that the pixels will not be too crowded.
Starry Messenger
Apr 2013
#61
Wow. The ultimate in political correctness. Deeming a term offensive without naming a replacement.
Nye Bevan
Apr 2013
#68
It's not political correctness, in the context of the AP style guide, to "nix" a term
LooseWilly
Apr 2013
#73