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Response to Harmony Blue (Original post)

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:04 AM

57. You're not. The entire concept is a fucking chimera.


It makes my blood boil.

I've been thinking about this for several months and observing conversations on this site regarding the concept of privilege getting steadily angrier and angrier and waiting for someone who supports the concept to say anything meaningful about it. They can't. The only thing chimera "privilege" seems to be able to do is assert itself and dance about saying "oooh, you don't believe in me, that proves I exist," which is just the most babyish, clumsy piece of manipulation I've ever seen. The concept has no qualities beyond a kind of "stuff being got" scorecard, as if a person's life is definable in terms of what they GET and a series of loopy avoidance mechanisms to cope with its criticism.

What other conceptual system would we allow to stand that assumed criticism of it was evidence for it? Why are those supporting it incapable of talking about IT? What, in fact IS it?

Any attempts to extract any kind of meaningful structure from those supporting the concept result in the silliest tropes imaginable, "it's a ying, yang thing" I was told the last time this garbage came up. What the FUCK? When did conceptual models of human relations become immune to criticism?

I've been gay all my life. I am fucking DAMNED if I'm going to go to all my straight friends and tell them they're "privileged". I refuse to adopt a clumsy linguistic trick that explicitly condemns me to a power relationship with my friends, I will NOT exchange the heirarchically neutral term "enfranchisement" for the explicitly heirarchical and obscurant "privilege" so that a bunch of straight white middle class liberals can lounge about on couches with their hands stapled to their foreheads saying "Ooooooh! I feel so PRIVILEGED. I am so aware of my PRIVILEGE. You over there. Think about your PRIVILEGE. I'm thinking about mine. See what a lovely person I am? I must be because I understand how privileged I am."

The concept has nothing to do with enfranchising the oppressed. What does it do? It exhorts the free to mangle their perceptions of themselves. It places the free at the centre of the narrative instead of the chained.

Just because you can imagine a structure doesn't mean it exists. Remember the "gay agenda"?

It's self-absorbed DRIVEL.

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