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MADem

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27. They either might not meet basic housing standards....
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:29 PM
Mar 2013

(e.g. space requirements based on pay grade and minimum square footage) or they may have maintenance issues (inefficient heating system, lead paint, faulty wiring, etc., etc.).

If some houses are being used, and others sit empty, it's likely that this kind of thing is at issue--can't force people to take substandard housing if there are alternatives available.

The pot of money (MILCON--military construction) that pays for rehab/refurbishment of buildings is a completely different pot of money that pays for military personnel allowances. It could well be that a bean counter in the Funny Farm (the Five Sided One) did the math and determined it was cheaper to pay allowances than upgrade the housing.

The housing allowance varies by paygrade. The more senior you are, the more "house" you can get. It also varies by location (you get more money in a high rent area than a low rent one) and you also get more money if you are not single; i.e., you have "dependents" in tow (I personally think that distinction is terribly unfair--single people with no spouse/no kids cost the military the least, and they are screwed out of additional cash for the "crime" of being single--can't claim a dog or a cat as a dependent, and often the rent is higher if you have a pet, but there's no consideration for that).

Landlords are gonna get what they can--this is true in any military base environment. When the bases close, or downsize, as they often do, then they have some adjustments to make.

What a heartless fucking country. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #1
! City Lights Mar 2013 #38
That's it in a nutshell. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #61
For us Gen Y/Millenials sakabatou Mar 2013 #2
My daughter, $27,000 student loan debt, makes $10 per hour 34 hrs, running a free clinic. She is Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #3
If she's paying on the income contingent plan, she'll pay for 20 years max demwing Mar 2013 #4
That's comforting in a way. I doubt she will find anything paying more around here. Still, it stinks Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #16
There is one other answer. Occulus Mar 2013 #18
Feel some of your pain lark Mar 2013 #5
I'm almost broke from having to help her and the kids so much. She cannot even move as her sons Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #17
Good luck to us all. lark Mar 2013 #40
It's getting harder to have any hope for the future. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #43
Agree lark Apr 2013 #44
I hope when it gets much worse, I'm not too broke to leave. It's getting close though, too close. Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #58
Definitely not a physical fighter! lark Apr 2013 #62
I sit the youngest grandson, age 3, daycare would cost more than my daughter makes. It's Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #63
Yep, it is definitely a hell of a situation. lark Apr 2013 #67
I keep hoping things will start to turn for the good here, but it's really not looking too good Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #68
+1 woo me with science Apr 2013 #57
... Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #59
My next-door neighbor has three college grad kids... Octafish Mar 2013 #6
This isn't only a problem for the youth... OneGrassRoot Mar 2013 #7
Things are very messed up. Octafish Mar 2013 #9
Some guy tried offering me a job making only $8.50/hr octothorpe Mar 2013 #24
It's laughable Aerows Mar 2013 #26
That's pretty much what he is looking for.. octothorpe Mar 2013 #31
Are there no poorhouses? DCKit Mar 2013 #8
average rent in my part of northern colorado is about $1050 fizzgig Mar 2013 #10
There's more competition for rental units, too, in some parts of the country.... MADem Mar 2013 #11
In this town, the Coast Guard Base drives up rental prices alarimer Mar 2013 #25
They either might not meet basic housing standards.... MADem Mar 2013 #27
My last base was full of empty houses, so they let single people move in, it was great sammytko Apr 2013 #45
Sounds like a "square footage" issue. MADem Apr 2013 #56
"The rent is too damn high"... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #12
when I was a kid - even a poor family on minimum wage could afford to rent a big dumpy old house Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #13
$900 for a ROOM. moondust Mar 2013 #14
OMFG - that's an outrage LibertyLover Apr 2013 #54
Yikes. moondust Apr 2013 #55
If there has to be a minimum wage, shouldn't there also be a maximum wage? Blue Owl Mar 2013 #15
What you said! +100,000,000 nt Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #21
Costco (and I hate to keep blowing their horn but...) SomethingFishy Apr 2013 #46
how unusual BUT even $12/hr. is impossible to live on in many cities wordpix Apr 2013 #66
This uponit7771 Apr 2013 #49
YES! wordpix Apr 2013 #65
We live in a country run by sociopathic CEOs. Initech Mar 2013 #19
+1 They started grabbing everything in the 80's SomethingFishy Apr 2013 #48
That's what floors me. Initech Apr 2013 #50
what is the minimum wage in those areas ? JI7 Mar 2013 #20
$8.25 in DC, $7.25 in Maryland and Virginia. octothorpe Mar 2013 #22
Rent in St Pete Florida is decent demwing Mar 2013 #23
TWO hour commute? Is that each way, or total? MADem Mar 2013 #28
2 hour one way demwing Mar 2013 #29
I like to leave the driving to someone else when I can Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #30
I used to take the bus when I lived in the Portland, OR area... octothorpe Mar 2013 #32
$60 unlimited bus pass demwing Mar 2013 #33
Wouldn't it be nice if the bus had wifi and a crapper? MADem Mar 2013 #34
My commuter bus goes along the Pacific coast to Santa Barbara upaloopa Apr 2013 #53
Shit is fucked up and bullshit. ellisonz Mar 2013 #35
.... OneGrassRoot Mar 2013 #37
K&R woo me with science Mar 2013 #36
minimum wage is a sign of gross inequity . olddots Mar 2013 #39
You're supposed to be either still at home, college ileus Mar 2013 #41
kick woo me with science Mar 2013 #42
Our middle class has been devastated and impoverished. woo me with science Apr 2013 #47
Bush 2005 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #51
Who are these greedy poor people, acting as if they deserve TWO bedrooms? winter is coming Apr 2013 #52
Meanwhile the rich are getting richer and richer davidn3600 Apr 2013 #60
in DC in a decent neighborhood, make that 10 min. wage jobs wordpix Apr 2013 #64
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