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In the discussion thread: is asking a black man to dance a "jig" racist? [View all]

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Thu Feb 2, 2012, 09:46 AM

NotThisTime (3,371 posts)

98. We are Irish, it wouldn't be a slur... but I have no idea why anyone even if they were Irish would

ask the POTUS to dance a jig, that is bizarre... the whole thing is honestly bizarre.

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184 replies	Author	Time	Post
is asking a black man to dance a "jig" racist? [View all]	arely staircase	Feb 2012	OP
of course it is. and she did it with a big smile.	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#1
and yet some are all upset because HE said the word "interesting"	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#3
isnt it amazing. i saw the thread. i couldnt believe. the OUTRAGE. she did a racial	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#6
Indeed - she admits to being a Republican - and was way, way out of line with that racist shit	slay	Feb 2012	#146
She didn't have the nerve to ask for a full impromptu minstrel show.	eShirl	Feb 2012	#2
But the word "minstrel"	pecwae	Feb 2012	#141
Being a republican in Texas usually makes u racist.	GusFring	Feb 2012	#4
is she one? nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#5
without knowing her personally.... hell ya. nt	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#8
it's at 48:17	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#10
These people are making me ill	treestar	Feb 2012	#126
it would explain a lot. nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#14
Yes - she is a Republican	slay	Feb 2012	#148
I would have to see the exchange.	renie408	Feb 2012	#7
see post #10 nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#73
I think racism in some is so inate that they dont even recognize it when	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#9
i think she knew exactly what she was doing. nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#13
Agree - how does	xxqqqzme	Feb 2012	#122
Not once... not ever...	JSnuffy	Feb 2012	#11
then count yourself luckyi have. it is short for	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#17
So have I. In the north.	Jackpine Radical	Feb 2012	#89
I Second Jackpine's Observation - eom	ProfessorGAC	Feb 2012	#99
I'll third that	Morning Dew	Feb 2012	#117
Same here, in Alabama.	trof	Feb 2012	#174
urban dictionary	bigtree	Feb 2012	#20
wikipedia - the bit of etymology i put in bold makes me think she meant it that way	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#25
It's a racial slur	DefenseLawyer	Feb 2012	#31
Highly debateable	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#33
It's not an either or proposition	DefenseLawyer	Feb 2012	#35
Actually it is both, depending on context	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#48
I was responding to a particular statement	DefenseLawyer	Feb 2012	#59
Maybe she was calling him a fish.	Life Long Dem	Feb 2012	#78
I never once suggested she was calling him anything	DefenseLawyer	Feb 2012	#85
My point is that it isn't in the common usage...	JSnuffy	Feb 2012	#94
Lot's of videos at youtube using it....	The Straight Story	Feb 2012	#34
so youtube makes it legitimate?	bigtree	Feb 2012	#38
I did not say either way, was replying to someone who had not heard it before	The Straight Story	Feb 2012	#44
I saw those in my searches	bigtree	Feb 2012	#54
then you haven't experienced shit. nt	dionysus	Feb 2012	#57
Mmhmm....	JSnuffy	Feb 2012	#66
Yes, it appears to be a waste. n/t	HangOnKids	Feb 2012	#154
LOVE YOU	HangOnKids	Feb 2012	#153
This isn't sticking to the wall.	Life Long Dem	Feb 2012	#77
well, your 'fish' excuse certainly didn't float	bigtree	Feb 2012	#80
Ha ha... I'm sure it didn't.	Life Long Dem	Feb 2012	#86
i knew what it meant and i am not around this stuff. have heard it all my life. nt	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#92
I have - grew up in Indiana	xxqqqzme	Feb 2012	#121
'jig' or not	bigtree	Feb 2012	#12
I agree. That is the thing that struck me.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#139
The term "jig" is not inherently racist.	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#15
the word has a racist past	bigtree	Feb 2012	#23
It has a much longer historical non-racist usage and context is quite clear on intent	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#29
the older non-racist meaning "a type of dance" was the root of the racial slur	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#39
The problem is the older meanings are also current, valid, and clearly non-racist.	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#52
I have never in my life heard the word jig in a racist way...	a la izquierda	Feb 2012	#40
well, i am scots-irish and mexican. i know what jigs and reels are. ive seen them performed.	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#70
Welp, you learn something new and awful every day.	a la izquierda	Feb 2012	#96
Professor, I have lived this	bigtree	Feb 2012	#32
As a black American, I look at context from which intent is clear	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#37
i put a link in post #10 nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#42
Thanks, I just watched it	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#53
well now you have to explain the meaning of that lol	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#58
It was sufficiently incredible that I am not sure what to make of it	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#65
You're a black American and don't understand the historical significance of that word	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2012	#71
I fully understand its provenance and its also used in the UK and Ireland as a slur.	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#76
Why can't you just admit that it has racial overtones? I don't understand	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2012	#97
gee, maybe if he'd danced a jig for her, she would have invited him on a	Gabi Hayes	Feb 2012	#50
It looks like a GOP setup to show Obama pandering	itsrobert	Feb 2012	#16
yeah, he handled it well. nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#21
She may be racist.	countingbluecars	Feb 2012	#18
Silly Sally Went To Town	MissB	Feb 2012	#19
yes, as i said - it has two meanings nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#22
Did she ask him to show his teeth?	grasswire	Feb 2012	#24
I've had non-racist cause to do so; very few other people have.	Donald Ian Rankin	Feb 2012	#26
My daughters and wife learned some of the classic jigs and reels	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#41
Hard to tell	RZM	Feb 2012	#27
come to east texas some time - it is still used here behind the pine curtain. nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#47
I'm not saying it's not out there	RZM	Feb 2012	#60
you are right and your anecdote is just like many stories i could tell	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#64
Well I wouldn't be too hard on the guy in my story	RZM	Feb 2012	#75
Why are people in this thread trying so hard to dismiss this obvious racial slur?	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2012	#72
Anyone else remember this MAS*H classic?	KansDem	Feb 2012	#28
I remember that	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#45
I had completely forgotten that	bigtree	Feb 2012	#62
is "gettin jiggy wit it" racist?	frylock	Feb 2012	#30
is asking a black man to dance a "jig" racist?	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#36
thank you . nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#51
the etymology of the word "jig" is a part of this discussion..	frylock	Feb 2012	#113
Do you think it's now ok to ask a black person to dance a jig	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#119
no	frylock	Feb 2012	#177
let you in on a secret - words can have more than one meaning.	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#49
I'd bet the farm that 'jiggy' originated from 'jig'	RZM	Feb 2012	#69
From 'jig', but not necessarily from the derogatory meaning	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2012	#109
Only if he's Irish. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#43
Obama actually has some traceable Irish roots	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#74
Alright Arely. The jig is up. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#46
..................."and GONE." That's a line from History of The World.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2012	#178
Bruce Willis can be blamed for reviving the word. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#180
Actually, I thought it was an Irish term....as in an Irish Jig....	a kennedy	Feb 2012	#55
and asking a black man to dance for you is...?	eShirl	Feb 2012	#63
It doesn't look good...	ecstatic	Feb 2012	#56
i missed the repub from texas part the first time - i am from and currently in texas	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#61
This reminded me of a hilarious scene in one of the "Ocean"	quinnox	Feb 2012	#67
Bernie Mac?	eShirl	Feb 2012	#82
I sure thought it was	jsmirman	Feb 2012	#68
K & R!	lonestarnot	Feb 2012	#79
She could have avoided this entirely	Generic Brad	Feb 2012	#81
I also know I wouldn't ask someone for help finding a job AND	jsmirman	Feb 2012	#83
Maybe she is taking it back	joeglow3	Feb 2012	#84
i haven't seen that in years - i didn't even remember wanda sykes being in it. nt	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#87
This is just my opinion	The Genealogist	Feb 2012	#88
+1	Gormy Cuss	Feb 2012	#150
If you have to ask, it's ALWAYS racist.	saras	Feb 2012	#90
That is a ridiculous standard...	JSnuffy	Feb 2012	#95
"but only with 2+ people in the within direct line of sight?"	HangOnKids	Feb 2012	#163
Yes.	ellie	Feb 2012	#91
If it wasn't racist, it was surely the most demeaning, rude thing ...	frazzled	Feb 2012	#93
We are Irish, it wouldn't be a slur... but I have no idea why anyone even if they were Irish would	NotThisTime	Feb 2012	#98
This message was self-deleted by its author	redqueen	Feb 2012	#102
Yes	Chill Keney	Feb 2012	#100
Would that woman have asked any other president to "dance" for her?	City Lights	Feb 2012	#101
Ehhh... Big big reach.	chrisa	Feb 2012	#103
yes. it is just kinda a joke amongst the white. why are the blacks being so sensitive	seabeyond	Feb 2012	#108
It was a weird comment, but I'm not getting what people are seeing here.	chrisa	Feb 2012	#114
Yes.	redqueen	Feb 2012	#104
Maybe she had just watched "The Last Boy Scout"? nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#105
Yes...	joeybee12	Feb 2012	#106
He is.	Donald Ian Rankin	Feb 2012	#123
I think asking him to sing and dance reveals a racist presumption on her part	deutsey	Feb 2012	#107
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#129
They asked him to go on American Idol and sing with Al Green.	Major Hogwash	Feb 2012	#130
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#131
I don't know if you were hasty or not, I just saw it on the Yahoo News page is all	Major Hogwash	Feb 2012	#135
I don't know about that	deutsey	Feb 2012	#133
Please. Nobody asked or commanded him to sing at the Apollo.	redqueen	Feb 2012	#142
Is corporate calling the tune, again, lol?	T S Justly	Feb 2012	#110
This message was self-deleted by its author	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#136
I've never heard the term jig used in a racist way..	octothorpe	Feb 2012	#111
That woman was anti-Obama all the way--I sometimes wonder if she was a set up	WI_DEM	Feb 2012	#112
She could be a troll. Who knows.	chrisa	Feb 2012	#115
Well given that it's an Irish folk dance	treestar	Feb 2012	#116
Yes n/t	Spazito	Feb 2012	#118
I always thought dancing a jig was an Irish thing....	Marrah_G	Feb 2012	#120
I don't know, but it was disrespectful.	Quantess	Feb 2012	#124
Pres. Obama is not renowned for either British folk dancing or fly-fishing	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#125
Now that is a word I have not heard in a long time.	Rex	Feb 2012	#127
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#128
Defending racist Republicans	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#138
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2012	#140
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#147
Keep making excuses for this Racist Pig	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#159
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#165
Sycophants are now people who don't defend racism like yourself.	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#166
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#168
It's clear where your POV on this matter is coming from.	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#169
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#170
Lol. I'm closeminded to racism. You're doing a great job at keeping your mind open.	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#171
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#172
Who is this "we" you're talking about?	redqueen	Feb 2012	#143
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#144
Way more people than just DUers are pissed at this racist BS. nt	redqueen	Feb 2012	#145
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#151
And sometimes a question is not just a question	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#152
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Feb 2012	#167
That must be it...	BklnDem75	Feb 2012	#181
I was just on a jury with the 'JIG' - I was wondering why...	LynneSin	Feb 2012	#132
Jon Stewart did the best riff on this.	Cleita	Feb 2012	#134
Interesting how some of the bigger Obama haters around here are ok with this	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#137
What are you talking about? Care to show some proof?	slay	Feb 2012	#149
Kaw KaKaw Kaw KaKaw	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#156
I hear ya	slay	Feb 2012	#158
You're ok in my book slay	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#162
You know the bigger Obama haters around here?	HangOnKids	Feb 2012	#155
Yeah I do	Son of Gob	Feb 2012	#157
Testy Testy Testy	HangOnKids	Feb 2012	#160
Why share your lists with everyone?	pecwae	Feb 2012	#183
To dance a jig is not racist.	BeeBee	Feb 2012	#161
Why not just ask him to dance then? Or dance the macarena?	slay	Feb 2012	#164
You know, I thought I was just a little sensitive when I heard that idiot say that...	Ecumenist	Feb 2012	#173
For what it's worth, it looks like that girl from Texas has decided to vote for Obama...	Drunken Irishman	Feb 2012	#175
good news..hearts can change...maybe there was some self-evaluation	arely staircase	Feb 2012	#176
leaving racial overtones aside, for a moment ....	marasinghe	Feb 2012	#179
at the time i thought so	SwampG8r	Feb 2012	#182
I've never heard that term in reference to race.	pecwae	Feb 2012	#184

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