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In reply to the discussion: The marginalization of "The Left" through the years. Not hearing us now at all. [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)167. Eisenhower started the war. Soundbytes sound nice, but are very misguided, dontchathink?
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The marginalization of "The Left" through the years. Not hearing us now at all. [View all]
madfloridian
Mar 2013
OP
Let's get one thing straight from the get-go: What the MSM calls "The Left" is the middle.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2013
#1
what they call the 'far left' is the middle. what they call the left is the center-
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#7
+1 It is the American People, the 99 percent, who have been sold out.
woo me with science
Mar 2013
#77
In 2004 they delivered a slap in the face to huge numbers of caring people.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#65
As Molly Ivins said he was a "fighting centrist". Not one who shut out a whole part of the party.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#70
"stop assigning them more power than they have" I'd like to suggest part of how that mistake is
patrice
Mar 2013
#182
During the buildup to the IWar, the centrist couldnt wait to kiss Bush's behind.
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#209
I think the oligarch overlords have politics right where they want it. We have a wacko right wing
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#221
"If liberal Democrats stood up and fought hard, the Party could be made to move left. Playing the
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#103
simply, you've been anti Dem since Dean flamed out (though it wasn't his fault, it was the media).
dionysus
Mar 2013
#128
Truth about the shellackings of leftish Presidential candidates........
socialist_n_TN
Mar 2013
#163
You are correct: The Powell Manifesto set out the entire plan. Nixon's appointee to
loudsue
Mar 2013
#83
Don't forget the "think tanks" and the Federalist Society. They've gone about a very successful
SleeplessinSoCal
Mar 2013
#22
I've got a wee bit of hope owing to the very dedicated base of Occupy Wall Street
SleeplessinSoCal
Mar 2013
#18
only a couple weeks ago I heard one of the Sunday morning infotainment
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#20
I like your screen name. I may have to change mine to include socialist.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#93
The Leninist model is the only one that has been proven to actually.....
socialist_n_TN
Mar 2013
#159
yes the Leninist model is the only model that has actually taken capitalism down and was able to
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#172
I think the true American Left was tied to Unions and economic issues, now they mostly represent
whathehell
Mar 2013
#23
I don't recall anyone promoting that dichotomy, and it's definitely a wrongheaded idea,
whathehell
Mar 2013
#41
Guess what? Those like Elizabeth Warren, who voted for Ronald Reagan & 41 killed the unions
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#30
Guess what?...I was a living, breathing, thinking adult during that time and no one I knew
whathehell
Mar 2013
#40
Yes, and as I understand it, she was quite liberal in college but that's changed.
whathehell
Mar 2013
#49
Any discussion of the 1980 election that does not include the words "hostage crisis" and...
JHB
Mar 2013
#51
Yes...In fact it was not long ago at all that BOTH parties called Social Security "The 3rd Rail"...
whathehell
Mar 2013
#215
Yes, I think you're right. I'm a member of Progressive Democrats of America
whathehell
Mar 2013
#219
If it is liberal democrats' fault for social justice issues losses, who's fault is it that we have
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#33
you better believe actions have consequences and just as you blame me for social issue losses I
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#35
JFK so truely said "Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do"
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#39
Liberals could make that demand of centrists if Liberals/the Left could SUCCEED. They don't succeed
patrice
Mar 2013
#198
I remember too. & If HHH had won, Nixon wouldn't have split Labor & choked all of the poorer unions
patrice
Mar 2013
#199
A lot of us in my generation remember how the unions were largely pro-Vietnam war
Fumesucker
Mar 2013
#32
Considering my age and where I live the likelihood of me ever being in a union is nil
Fumesucker
Mar 2013
#95
I think he said pretty clearly that the unions were for the Vietnam war....
socialist_n_TN
Mar 2013
#72
The Democratic party will continue to swing to the right as long as the left lets them,
MadHound
Mar 2013
#44
They are the victim. The people quoted in the OP made them victims. Deliberately.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#59
+1 THAT's what keeps what calls itself "the Left" marginalized & hence from becoming what would
patrice
Mar 2013
#203
When the left fights back by not voting for the centrists the centrists claim 'victimhood".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#119
K&R The Democratic party now seems like just a branch of the Republican party.
forestpath
Mar 2013
#48
oh, wow. I have heard of the progressive caucus but had no idea there were 70.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#88
They have been trying to communicate about their budget proposal. Petition link in my post #205
patrice
Mar 2013
#206
Yet, the 3rd Way/DLC types still expect us to vote for their candidates and blame us when they lose.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#75
The democratic party has left the poor people behind and they embrace corporate
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2013
#85
Reed: "Our next challenge is to deliver on that promise (to the middle class)"
progressoid
Mar 2013
#99
Alex Cary documented the 'leveraged buy-out' of Mass Media in his History of Propaganda...
Octafish
Mar 2013
#102
Maria Gilardin is TOPS and TUC Radio is an amazing resource, an antidote to MSM...
Octafish
Mar 2013
#180
I loved Kucinich. Everyone laughed at him but he was one of the only ones with the courage
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#108
Democrats know that they do not have to earn our vote...that it's already locked in
davidn3600
Mar 2013
#124
Pres.Obama is the #1 greatest president since LBJ.MOST democratic voters LOVE HIM
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#151
"Hey, Hey, LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?" Weren't words of love for a "great" president.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#166
Eisenhower started the war. Soundbytes sound nice, but are very misguided, dontchathink?
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#167
And, your "liberal" hero escalated it to the point of killing millions and refused to end it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#170
What a whitewashing of history. LBJ was far to the left of McCarthy & McGovern put together.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#175
Oh, right. LBJ was a real peacenik. "Losing was not an option." But, he did lose.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#185
1968 showed what happened (prior to 2000) when some 3rd party ruined things.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#207
Very well done, thank you for posting on this issue, you missed very little, the Koch connection
Dragonfli
Mar 2013
#137
What is described here is just the latest installment of purging the left from US politics.
limpyhobbler
Mar 2013
#142
I believe the military has been running the country since Truman stood up to
mountain grammy
Mar 2013
#179
AGREE! That was demonstrated also because Henry Wallace lost the nomination to Truman.
patrice
Mar 2013
#183
Not that Al From cares, but liberals hold him in even more contempt than he holds us
Samantha
Mar 2013
#191
The marginalization of the left is made easy by rigid, zealous ideologues...
Generation_Why
Mar 2013
#204