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In reply to the discussion: The US Invasion of Iraq Was a Crime and Its Perpetrators Are Murderers [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)52. Defector admits to WMD lies that triggered Iraq war
Man codenamed Curveball 'invented' tales of bioweapons
Iraqi told lies to try to bring down Saddam Hussein regime
Fabrications used by US as justification for invasion
Martin Chulov and Helen Pidd in Karlsruhe
The Guardian, Tuesday 15 February 2011 07.58 EST
The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed Curveball by German and American intelligence officials who dealt with his claims, has told the Guardian that he fabricated tales of mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories in an attempt to bring down the Saddam Hussein regime, from which he had fled in 1995.
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[font color="red"]Janabi claimed he was first exposed as a liar as early as mid-2000,[/font color] when the BND travelled to a Gulf city, believed to be Dubai, to speak with his former boss at the Military Industries Commission in Iraq, Dr Bassil Latif.
The Guardian has learned separately that British intelligence officials were at that meeting, investigating a claim made by Janabi that Latif's son, who was studying in Britain, was procuring weapons for Saddam.
That claim was proven false, and Latif strongly denied Janabi's claim of mobile bioweapons trucks and another allegation that 12 people had died during an accident at a secret bioweapons facility in south-east Baghdad.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war
PS: Thank you, raccoon! Weird how little coverage of any kind this issue gets on this side of the Atlantic.
Iraqi told lies to try to bring down Saddam Hussein regime
Fabrications used by US as justification for invasion
Martin Chulov and Helen Pidd in Karlsruhe
The Guardian, Tuesday 15 February 2011 07.58 EST
The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed Curveball by German and American intelligence officials who dealt with his claims, has told the Guardian that he fabricated tales of mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories in an attempt to bring down the Saddam Hussein regime, from which he had fled in 1995.
SNIP...
[font color="red"]Janabi claimed he was first exposed as a liar as early as mid-2000,[/font color] when the BND travelled to a Gulf city, believed to be Dubai, to speak with his former boss at the Military Industries Commission in Iraq, Dr Bassil Latif.
The Guardian has learned separately that British intelligence officials were at that meeting, investigating a claim made by Janabi that Latif's son, who was studying in Britain, was procuring weapons for Saddam.
That claim was proven false, and Latif strongly denied Janabi's claim of mobile bioweapons trucks and another allegation that 12 people had died during an accident at a secret bioweapons facility in south-east Baghdad.
CONTINUED...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war
PS: Thank you, raccoon! Weird how little coverage of any kind this issue gets on this side of the Atlantic.
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The US Invasion of Iraq Was a Crime and Its Perpetrators Are Murderers [View all]
Octafish
Mar 2013
OP
He wouldn't be CIA if he is trying to defend Bush. Bush threw the CIA under the bus for his acts.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#22
He ''covers'' CIA for TIME. As for what TIME Inc and the Media do on behalf of CIA...
Octafish
Mar 2013
#35
None of that means anything in this context. The CIA probably hates Bush. They would not cover for
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#37
It absolutely does. The real bosses stay in power, no matter who sits in the Oval Office.
Octafish
Mar 2013
#39
That's pretty milquetoast. I thought you said the CIA was pro-Bush and pro-Republican.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#44
It's milquetoast because it doesnt rise to the level of what I thought you were suggesting
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#50
The CIA had actual 'reporters' planted in the media. Were you around during the Bush years btw?
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#56
In what way did he throw them under the bus? He awarded Tenet the medal of freedom. nm
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#54
Bush 'cleansed' the CIA and remolded it to his liking. He made sure to replace any dissenters
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#53
I think he got some help from Cheney, but I guess that goes without saying.
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#55
Lol, well as we all know, Cheney was the real president. Bush probably just did as he was told.
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#57
Wait, wait! Saddam offered to leave for $1 billion? And we spent TRILLIONS on war to oust him?
tclambert
Mar 2013
#46
Here's an historic photo of a Japanese officer who oversaw water-boarding Allied POWs...
Octafish
Mar 2013
#51
I'd much rather see them incarcerated at Gitmo for the rest of their miserable lives. nt.
OldDem2012
Mar 2013
#8
It must be, as said with so many other issues, "It's all the fault of the Republicans."
AnotherMcIntosh
Mar 2013
#62
Remember Mark Lombardi, librechik? The artist connected bin Laden And Bush with his Art.
Octafish
Mar 2013
#58
And what do they tell us ordinary folks with no "on tap" high powered attorneys? Ignorance
shraby
Mar 2013
#32
+1, it's not like billions worldwide and clearly here in many cities didn't protest this action.
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#10
The statement that we are a nation dedicated to the rule of law is incorrect
mindwalker_i
Mar 2013
#12
These ticky fine points of law and humanity matter nary a whit to post-WWII America
indepat
Mar 2013
#29
It's a good thing we ratified joining the ICC and the killers can be brought to trial...oh, wait.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#38