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In reply to the discussion: "We Owe to Our Sons What We've Given Our Daughters" [View all]liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)70. yeah it's not so much the teachers that I blame as the school administrations, the school boards,
and the politicians who set these horrible policies and don't properly fund our schools and you are so right about the problems facing special education. Thank you for the encouragement.
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generally, physically also. it is a hoot in middle school watching the tall 5, 6, 7 grade girls
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#130
It helps if they can teach the kids how to sit instead of just expecting them to and then punishing
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#145
he has always been active. and he likes his down time. he was fun because he would read,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#162
this is my issue with this theory. education was no different 3, 4 decades ago when men were the
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#125
No, it isn't the test - it's the classroom structure that is a response to the test
gollygee
Mar 2013
#17
personally i think all of society is attacking our boys and without a lot of work in the home front,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#5
And yet these boys, when they come of age and are still boys...as presented, and I agree...
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#42
they are also pretty lonely, messed up, hurting themselves in many ways. it is not healthy.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#48
I work mostly with boys, since I'm a speech-language pathologist, and most of the kids with
phylny
Mar 2013
#110
so if a boy learns at a slower pace we should just force him to learn faster?
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#112
I think the reason my autistic son misbehaved was because he has always seen home as a sanctuary.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#202
Oh my good point. I had a young (5-6 yo) that wouldn't keep his hands off my equip last
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#120
Good for you for doing everything you think is right. However, you only raised girls
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#182
Girls who are good at math have a tough time of it. You will just have to trust me on that.
JDPriestly
Mar 2013
#80
are we allowed to have a discussion about the dysfunctionality of masculinity
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#10
Masculinity, just like Femininity, has been hijacked and defined by the Advertising Industry
Taverner
Mar 2013
#44
yup. jobs are changing, that requires staying in school longer and longer.
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#62
no. i hear that often. i hate it. we had no expectation and we did not direct. allowing activity
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#91
I think that many here are (sometimes not so) privately giddy about the failures of male children in
leeroysphitz
Mar 2013
#13
really? you think people here root for failure of young black boys in education?
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#20
I KNOW some do and no, I'm not going to call them out and no I wasn't lumping you in there. n/t
leeroysphitz
Mar 2013
#24
i drew the qualifier because the article focussed on black boys and so i did too. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#32
The problem is more acute among black boys, but not unique to them. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#34
seriously Jeff? Instead of whining about feminists, men could and should learn a lot!
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#81
I'm serious about what I said. It sounds as if you read something else. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#90
No. I feel like my kids are being attacked. I'm mostly indifferent to personal attacks.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#88
this conversation seems to be just like the one about benevolent sexism and the Pope
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#92
who would that be? i fight for my boys continually and for years have been putting up info
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#33
Fair enough, I'm semi-guilty. I'm not giddy, but I got no sympathy either since
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#43
It's a little harder to come to that conclusion when you have both a boy and girl as children.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#51
I have a boy and a girl, both grown now, but I do not find the same as you, both did just fine.
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#76
Oh, and don't forget, should your son and daughter happen to choose the same profession...
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#79
oh, my gosh you think I don't know that? You think she doesn't know that?
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#83
I get it, I'm just saying that certainly mitigates any sympathy I might otherwise have for
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#84
That's okay. I have enough sympathy for all of them. So do many others.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#86
leeroy, might want to take note. post after post of ours addressing the issue. thinking, listening
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#124
When I was 12 I started thinking school was stupid, I expected to be cannon fodder
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#39
2000 buscho masho'ism really projected this for our boys. middle school is where
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#50
from what i hear, the kids are certainly feeling their future is beyond their control for sure.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#61
they aren't alone. I think there is no debt crisis, but the ads on the Ed Show
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#67
As a teacher I would agrue that the problem goes to serious and important issues in education
jimlup
Mar 2013
#22
Not that many years ago, people were very concerned about the lag among girls.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#30
Exactly my point! And because teachers don't like normal little boy behavior, the get medicated.
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#98
Partly because of the suspicion heaped upon any man looking to work with kids.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#147
I have also heard of cases where the innocent sue and get the decisions reversed.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#152
I had a casual acquaintance who killed himself because of apparently unfounded allegations.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#154
gay people sometimes kill themselves too. That does not stop other from fighting.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#155
That is true. That does not mean they should allow others to tell them they can't teach
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#158
i have done a lot fo research on this, that is not true. it is what is being promoted, also paying
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#164
Could you name things that girls are in fact good and frankly much better at then boys?
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#36
I'm hoping he just means that boys and girls have different learning styles
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#41
hmmm. my kids are freshman and senior. lol. so not like i have been out of the middle school
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#65
I sometimes I forget that I'm not talking to colleagues who all know this data well...
jimlup
Mar 2013
#96
I think there are ways of addressing the problems without seperating the sexes
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#122
Single sex classrooms are not correllated with reduced academic performance among girls.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#126
i hear ya on that. and i found it interesting myself. i am all for what works.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#184
but think about this. this is so fuckin' interesting. i said in a post above that studies show boys
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#132
my autistic son had fewer and fewer tantrums the more he could verbalize how he felt
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#144
absolutely liberal. this is what i have found with the kids. it is always trying things out,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#169
because they have been working so hard to turn our boys into savages with huge wallets--
librechik
Mar 2013
#26
boys love of video games and parents focus on sports for their boys is a big part of the problem
Fresh_Start
Mar 2013
#37
boys can be active and visual learners without turning into over masculinized monsters
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#46
and i have two boys that must learn thru reading, not listening. we know our kids. we can give
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#54
I agree parents have to participate but it is hard when you have a special education
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#63
you child is the one being most lost in the cracks of the system that has been created.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#69
yeah it's not so much the teachers that I blame as the school administrations, the school boards,
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#70
I suppose the guy who deserves scruitiny is the author, Mark Sherman, PhD
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#60
i agree. i had one child that was always ahead in the milestones. i had one that was always behind
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#135
One year out of college, female teachers earn 89 percent of what male teachers earn.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#136
wrong. the first year out.... many are not in coaching positions and if it were so obvious,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#168
bookmark for tomorrow. so tired, but i want to watch. thanks. luv this stuff. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#173
American education is in crisis. Most problems stem from lack of funding.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#115
evo... 3, 4 decades ago school was more structured. and yet, boys overwhelmingly graduated
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#138
dont even go there. i am not suggesting hitting a child. i will read your post in a bit
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#142
I've re-read that post 3 times, it sure sounds like that is the point she's trying to make.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#178
'what I know'.. heh. She regularly makes arguments about the 'decadent, worsening culture'
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#180
it is simply the truth. talking about the differences in the system then and now. not a whole lot
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#185
I expressed my opinion on part of what I think may be happening in an earlier thread.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#192
your opinion that my stating the paddle in the past means i advocate paddling. to the fact i do not
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#195
I acknowledged that. My use of "opinion" in the prior post was in regard to what I wrote in HoF
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#196
thanks. believing their own PR. seemed to be the meme to say. regardless of only having men
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#191
having some college debt makes staying in college more likely for both men and women.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#187
We do? Then do something about the ancient American tradition of anti-intellectualism
eridani
Mar 2013
#188