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In reply to the discussion: Burning The US Flag Is Akin to Displaying the Confederate Flag [View all]Lionessa
(3,894 posts)15. The trend for the past 30 years has not been positive.
So sorry you can't grasp what I'm saying. And judging by your responses, you don't even grasp the realities facing so many today, again regardless of race or gender, though stats do show that race and gender are still heavily effecting one's chances of survival here in the USA.
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Thank you. I am an atheist and think that religion has a lot to answer for. I don't burn Bibles. n/t
renie408
Feb 2012
#4
Please read about civil rights movements. The class you ask me to teach you can't be done here.
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#39
That answers the question about whether or not you can have a discussion without being insulting.
renie408
Feb 2012
#44
Or how about we use burning it to represent our dissatisfaction that it doesn't represent what it
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#5
You are wrong if you think 'wingers' are the only people who care about flag burning.
renie408
Feb 2012
#21
Can you have a straight discussion about this without insulting the person you are talking to?
renie408
Feb 2012
#33
No, not really because you are becoming responsible for grandizing idea that it's offensive
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#37
Not being cowed into revering a piece of fabric that represents a regime elevates the conversation.
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#60
It allows intelligent folks the opportunity to explain to their family and peers why
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#85
So what does burning a flag represent to OWS? What is the message I am suppose to get? nt
hack89
Feb 2012
#86
America is broken, breaking, falling, no longer worthy of the respect it demands.
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#92
A sense of moral and intellectual superiority is what every successful social movement is built on
hack89
Feb 2012
#104
Because, yeah, the civil liberties situation in 1861 was SO much the same as now
jberryhill
Feb 2012
#6
Really??? You're that ignorant? You can't fathom what "these days" mean in the context of
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#78
it's CRAZY to suggest that burning the U.S. flag doesn't alienate the vast majority of working class
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#31
I 100% support OWS and consider it the most promissing social movement in a at least a generation
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#111
it's not a matter of whether it offends me or not - it offends almost all working class Americans
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#110
everyone who has any exposure to working class Americans knows very well that the
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#117
Harm vs good can only be determined in hindsight, which we have not enough of regarding
Lionessa
Feb 2012
#64
Well, if they don't understand what a perfect political statement flag burning really is
nobodyspecial
Feb 2012
#26
The Reason Burning The Flag Is Dumb Is Because You Are Alienating The Very People You Want To Reach
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2012
#36
You Are Attributing A Level Of Political Sophistication To The Average American That Never Existed
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2012
#42
They're not going to get "sophisticated" by playing to their fears of not conforming.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#54
I concede that point. That is why symbols are powerful and why they are used.
morningfog
Feb 2012
#66
what then is the precise form of protest which will not antagonize and provoke anger in anyone?
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#70
i dont agree with the first part of your argument, but do agree with the second part
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2012
#71
That's the thing about flags if the United States were to lose a war to China, and
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#95
I only have a problem with you not reading what I write before responding.
JackRiddler
Feb 2012
#106
Actually, your point seems to be to pin "OWS" neurotically to a flag-burning incident in Oakland...
JackRiddler
Feb 2012
#108
So quite a lot of Southerners aren't "average everyday Americans"? Right then
Spider Jerusalem
Feb 2012
#115