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In the discussion thread: The problem isn't that they burned it, its that they STOLE it! [View all]

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:20 PM

renie408 (9,193 posts)

27. Ok, there we can agree.

I didn't understand the tone of your post. Yes, I think the police response is over the top in some cities and Oakland has been a repeat offender in that regard. I guess that is what bugs me about this. As long as OWS protesters kept things civil and legal, the police looked SO bad in their response. That also makes me wonder if possibly the police WERE involved in what happened. But that just feels so convoluted and conspiracy theorish. Mainly I feel like it doesn't do anybody any good to say that any kind of stealing or vandalism is OK just because it is stealing and vandalism for the cause you believe in (not YOU 'you').

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61 replies	Author	Time	Post
The problem isn't that they burned it, its that they STOLE it! [View all]	renie408	Jan 2012	OP
Stealing a flag and burning it is not on the same level as the atrosities	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#1
Because OWS was wrong.	TheWraith	Jan 2012	#2
I'm willing to bet	unionworks	Jan 2012	#8
Your line about OWS is wrong is equally getting old. You seem ok when	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#13
Occupy is dead	2pooped2pop	Jan 2012	#34
And yet you seem to ignore everything wrong that Obama does just fine	slay	Jan 2012	#55
Because I am an agent provocateur...duh.	renie408	Jan 2012	#7
It has nothing to do with me. Explain if you will, how a Democrat can disparage OWS?	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#10
I am not disparaging OWS. I am disparaging the acts of a few people involved in the OWS movement.	renie408	Jan 2012	#21
It doesnt sound like you understood my post. I did not condone the behavior. I stated	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#22
Ok, there we can agree.	renie408	Jan 2012	#27
What I am trying to preach is to maintain perspective. The Corp-Media	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#31
You know what is REALLY funny?	renie408	Jan 2012	#32
I agree.	Life Long Dem	Jan 2012	#45
I condone it!	2pooped2pop	Jan 2012	#35
Thank you. It is responses like these that can only make my point for me.	renie408	Jan 2012	#38
That's what I've been saying - protestors or infiltrators is one issue. Theft and destruction,...	HopeHoops	Jan 2012	#3
the problem is	unionworks	Jan 2012	#4
OMG	2pooped2pop	Jan 2012	#36
Yep. The cops at City Hall stood by and did NOTHING. Meanwhile their fellow officers...	Luminous Animal	Jan 2012	#51
Is that the problem? Was anything else stolen?	morningfog	Jan 2012	#5
They didn't "steal" anything	MattBaggins	Jan 2012	#6
A 100 year old scale model	unionworks	Jan 2012	#9
+1!	Luminous Animal	Jan 2012	#52
But Big Corporations Busting Into American Lives And STEALING EVERYTHING Is Ok?	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#11
So anything they do is OK because there are corporations that do WORSE?	renie408	Jan 2012	#17
Just curious: How do you steal something your tax dollars pay for?	justiceischeap	Jan 2012	#12
If theirs were the ONLY tax dollars spent, you might have a point.	renie408	Jan 2012	#15
Sure that line of 'logic' works, you just don't accept it	justiceischeap	Jan 2012	#19
No, actually I don't know enough about that to speculate or say that you are wrong in	renie408	Jan 2012	#23
They only burned 99% of it.	morningfog	Jan 2012	#24
Finally someone says what I've been thinking! Thank You!	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2012	#18
Cool, I can take police cars now!	jberryhill	Jan 2012	#28
Oh, man...maybe I can get behind that 'logic'. Can you imagine how much faster	renie408	Jan 2012	#30
go for it	2pooped2pop	Jan 2012	#41
And their guns!	pintobean	Jan 2012	#56
Actually, I was hoping a German Shepherd	jberryhill	Feb 2012	#60
So if a bunch of tea partiers break into an army base and take a tank	onenote	Jan 2012	#49
Obama memorabilia equals American flag?	Starry Messenger	Jan 2012	#14
Yes. Obviously they are exactly equivalent and that was the precise point I was trying to make.	renie408	Jan 2012	#16
The DNC is not supported by public funding.	Starry Messenger	Jan 2012	#20
So, the KKK can destroy stuff in the MLK memorial because they are taxpayers and it was	renie408	Jan 2012	#25
Female prisoners in Saturday's arrests were made to pee in front of male OPD	Starry Messenger	Jan 2012	#33
In the list of logical argument fallacies, this would be	renie408	Jan 2012	#37
Your priorities are now out here for everyone to see.	Starry Messenger	Jan 2012	#39
And so are your evasive and inflammatory debate tactics.	renie408	Jan 2012	#43
lolololol	Starry Messenger	Jan 2012	#44
The police are an organized gang with orders to brutalize, humiliate, violently attack, and arrest..	Luminous Animal	Jan 2012	#50
The only problem I have with it is that...	Kalidurga	Jan 2012	#26
I can agree with this also.	renie408	Jan 2012	#29
No, the problem is that this ridiculous non-issue is dominating the discussion	sibelian	Jan 2012	#40
And the near unanimous disregard for the 100s of PEACEFUL protesters who were arrested.	Luminous Animal	Jan 2012	#48
Just prior to this stupid flag incident	Joe Shlabotnik	Jan 2012	#42
There were far more that 400. 400 is the number of PEACEFUL protesters who were kettled & arrested.	Luminous Animal	Jan 2012	#47
+1	slay	Jan 2012	#54
Fuck it if I am going to smear thousands with the actions of a few. Yes. It was wrong.	Luminous Animal	Jan 2012	#46
The way things are going - stealing a flag compared to fighting against a dismal future	slay	Jan 2012	#53
can you prove that it was stolen?	donheld	Feb 2012	#57
Expensive flag. Guys wearing army boots. No long hair. 90s clothes. No one arrested.	sudopod	Feb 2012	#58
But somebody told me that somebody said, they knew him.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#61
This thread deserves to be trashed for comparing Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Klan.nt	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#59

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