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ProSense

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:39 PM Mar 2013

Republican Senator Filibusters Obama's CIA Nominee Over Drones [View all]

Republican Senator Filibusters Obama's CIA Nominee Over Drones

—By Adam Serwer

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Paul has been pressing the Obama administration for weeks to answer if it believes the president has the authority to order a drone strike on American soil. On Tuesday, Paul received a letter from Attorney General Eric Holder stating that, in certain "extraordinary circumstances," such as the attack on Pearl Harbor or the 9/11 attacks, military force could be used domestically. Sens. Mike Lee (R-Utah), Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Jon Cornyn (R-Texas), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) joined Paul's filibuster, although Wyden reiterated his intention to vote for Brennan's confirmation. The administration recently agreed to allow senators on the intelligence committee access to the legal memos justifying the use of lethal force against American terror suspects.

"That Americans could be killed in a café in San Francisco, or in a restaurant in Houston, or at their home in Bowling Green, Kentucky, is an abomination," Paul said. "It is something that should not and can not be tolerated in our country…Has America the beautiful become Alice's Wonderland?" Paul also criticized the use of signature strikes—lethal operations targeted at anonymous individuals abroad who are believed to be terrorists based on a "pattern of behavior."

During a Senate judiciary committee hearing held earlier Wednesday, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) asked Holder whether he believed that it would be constitutional for the president to order a drone strike on an American citizen suspected of terrorism in the United States who was "sitting quietly at a café." After a lengthy back and forth, during which Holder said that he did not think it would be "appropriate" to use lethal force in such a circumstance, and Cruz pressed him on whether that meant "unconstitutional," Holder acknowledged that he did not think it would be constitutional. "Translate my 'appropriate' to 'no,'" Holder said. "No." Holder said he didn't believe the letter he had sent to Paul was inconsistent with that answer.

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"What I worry about are the people who say America is a battlefield," Paul said during his filibuster. "They're saying they want the laws of war to apply here."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/republican-senator-filibusters-obamas-cia-nominee-over-drones

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In this PBO is worse that W Vincardog Mar 2013 #1
Yeah, especially if you take Rand Paul seriously. ProSense Mar 2013 #2
I am referring to the administrations claimed power to kill US citizens based on "Suspicion" Vincardog Mar 2013 #3
The administration made no such claim. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #4
Then where are these people getting that Cha Mar 2013 #9
The President has claimed the power just google it. "Obama Kill US Citizens Without review" Vincardog Mar 2013 #14
I read Holder's statement.. Cha Mar 2013 #19
The NY Times seem to think so, Link here Vincardog Mar 2013 #11
Got a link referencing your comment? Thanks. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #8
see my last post or follow this link Vincardog Mar 2013 #12
The editorial board of the NY Times thinks a lot of things, but.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #15
Paul's entire "filibuster" is based on a straw man onenote Mar 2013 #5
Pfft, details! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #7
thanks onenote for clarity and reality. Cha Mar 2013 #10
So are those who have been raging on Cha Mar 2013 #6
I think there's a big difference in people's mind between this and a quorum filibuster Recursion Mar 2013 #20
I think it is a good thing such questions are being asked. Skip Intro Mar 2013 #13
+1000! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2013 #16
I approve this filibuster. The President claims overly vague authority to kill in the US. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #17
Too bad the Rs decided to filibuster trampling of citizens' rights over 10 years too late ... zbdent Mar 2013 #18
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