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BlueStreak

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56. They aren't "earned" benfits. They are PURCHASED benefits
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:07 PM
Mar 2013

We all paid real money to fund these programs. We bought it. We expect to get what we paid for.

Entitlements also refer to benefits that are not 'earned' such as medicaid Freddie Stubbs Mar 2013 #1
self-delete pnwmom Mar 2013 #5
And cutting benefits is only giving into conservative upaloopa Mar 2013 #2
An entitlement is a thing to which you are entitled by exchange or by contractual agreement Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #3
+1 Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #37
They are called entitlements because we are ENTITLED to them because we earned them. pnwmom Mar 2013 #4
my thoughts... liberal_economist Mar 2013 #6
Okay, following your line of reasoning, do you have the right to drive on that portion.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #19
yes liberal_economist Mar 2013 #26
I'm in favor of a Government that has a constitution that begins with the words,..... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #49
i'm a very liberal minded person. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #52
Your words.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #54
it actually does fall under the definition of liberal liberal_economist Mar 2013 #57
infact liberal_economist Mar 2013 #58
and if you choose not to drive -- which many city-dwellers do choose -- magical thyme Mar 2013 #90
Ever heard of FICA? treestar Mar 2013 #88
So you DON'T feel you're entitled to these benefits? DemocratsForProgress Mar 2013 #7
philosophy liberal_economist Mar 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Mar 2013 #24
bwahahahahahaaa spanone Mar 2013 #25
ok liberal_economist Mar 2013 #30
As an economist, you should enjoy reading this paper Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #42
of course not... samrock Mar 2013 #12
thats not a good arguement liberal_economist Mar 2013 #18
No I earned the money that I pay as SS tax and medicare tax.. samrock Mar 2013 #20
youre right (kindof) liberal_economist Mar 2013 #29
No, thats not it. He is entitled to the returns on 40-50 years of investments. That is a lot of stevenleser Mar 2013 #47
So you are saying that 45 years DiverDave Mar 2013 #89
Entitlement comes off as weak only if you let conservatives sell it that way. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #39
Wrong. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #8
philosophy liberal_economist Mar 2013 #13
It is not like saying that at all. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #31
no liberal_economist Mar 2013 #36
You are correct, they are entitlements timdog44 Mar 2013 #32
another thought liberal_economist Mar 2013 #9
That's such a ridiculous distortion of reality that I can't take you seriously muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #67
I am glad you put this person in place. timdog44 Mar 2013 #73
none of thats true liberal_economist Mar 2013 #80
This is what marks you out as a right wing libertarian with no idea about economics muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #81
Perhaps rather than slapping strangers you could learn what the word means cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #11
I am retired now and receiving my Social Security ENTITLEMENT. RebelOne Mar 2013 #14
They're entitlements... PoliticAverse Mar 2013 #15
Social Security is a MANDATED insurance program. Downwinder Mar 2013 #16
hmm liberal_economist Mar 2013 #21
Do we have a right to other people's property? Sure, in a lot of situations Recursion Mar 2013 #40
thats just question begging. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #44
Of course some people can vote to take away the property rights of others Recursion Mar 2013 #45
i understand that that is what government do. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #48
do you know timdog44 Mar 2013 #63
yes liberal_economist Mar 2013 #65
Like when I buy a house timdog44 Mar 2013 #69
And you address 2 things. timdog44 Mar 2013 #70
Why taxation is not theft Purplehazed Mar 2013 #78
You say you are a "liberal economist," yet you believe that redistribution is theft. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #79
So what you are saying is that property rights trump everything Progressive dog Mar 2013 #60
basically, yes. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #64
You realize that this makes you on the RW side of the Repuplicans Progressive dog Mar 2013 #66
Thank you for saying that. timdog44 Mar 2013 #72
Your property is defined by government laws, and you obtained it with government help muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #68
yes, and we're entitled to those earned benefits. spanone Mar 2013 #17
Entitlement is the correct word. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #22
Entitlements s the term used in the legislation nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #23
The right has done another fine job of framing things to their favor liberal N proud Mar 2013 #27
They are insurance products for which we have been paying premiums. riqster Mar 2013 #28
not really, since insurance is only claimed when you 'need' it. social security, at least, is not. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #35
That's a bit broad IMHO riqster Mar 2013 #46
they may, but need is not the criterion for benefits. an important point since so many on the HiPointDem Mar 2013 #51
I'm not seeing how your two posts preclude the insurance designation riqster Mar 2013 #53
I think it's clear. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #59
No doubt you do. riqster Mar 2013 #62
That's not true. Insurance is also used as an investment vehicle. stevenleser Mar 2013 #50
and the meaning of "entitlement" = something one is entitled to. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #33
Let's just call them "Social Security and Medicare". dawg Mar 2013 #34
The fourth Wednesday of each month an amount to which I am 'entitled' is deposited into my bike man Mar 2013 #38
That second bit is the one a lot of people screw up on Recursion Mar 2013 #41
Many years ago Johnny Carson asked a very elderly guest what was the secret bike man Mar 2013 #43
When you have a Pres. nominee stating that FOOD AND HOUSING are entitlements, well, yay, U.S. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #55
They aren't "earned" benfits. They are PURCHASED benefits BlueStreak Mar 2013 #56
Entitlements ARE "earned benefits" duffyduff Mar 2013 #61
We are entitled to these benefits... 99Forever Mar 2013 #71
Agree! ananda Mar 2013 #74
It has a legal definition union_maid Mar 2013 #75
nobody is entitled to receive SS - earned or not alc Mar 2013 #76
Many of those benefiting pay little to no taxes. Zax2me Mar 2013 #77
liberal_economist is being claimed by FReepers as one of their own Loup Garou Mar 2013 #82
Thanks for bringing us a reference to that website. :sarcasm: MineralMan Mar 2013 #84
Why would you assume that? Loup Garou Mar 2013 #86
OK. As you say. MineralMan Mar 2013 #87
What a bunch of idiots. aptal Mar 2013 #85
"Entitled" means that you have a right to it Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #83
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