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Gormy Cuss

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42. As an economist, you should enjoy reading this paper

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Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:31 PM

Mar 2013

http://darp.lse.ac.uk/papersdb/Fong_(JPubE_01).pdf

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They should not be called entitlements.. they are earned benefits!! [View all] samrock Mar 2013 OP

Entitlements also refer to benefits that are not 'earned' such as medicaid Freddie Stubbs Mar 2013 #1

self-delete pnwmom Mar 2013 #5

And cutting benefits is only giving into conservative upaloopa Mar 2013 #2

An entitlement is a thing to which you are entitled by exchange or by contractual agreement Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #3

+1 Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #37

They are called entitlements because we are ENTITLED to them because we earned them. pnwmom Mar 2013 #4

my thoughts... liberal_economist Mar 2013 #6

Okay, following your line of reasoning, do you have the right to drive on that portion.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #19

yes liberal_economist Mar 2013 #26

I'm in favor of a Government that has a constitution that begins with the words,..... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #49

i'm a very liberal minded person. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #52

Your words.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #54

it actually does fall under the definition of liberal liberal_economist Mar 2013 #57

infact liberal_economist Mar 2013 #58

and if you choose not to drive -- which many city-dwellers do choose -- magical thyme Mar 2013 #90

Ever heard of FICA? treestar Mar 2013 #88

So you DON'T feel you're entitled to these benefits? DemocratsForProgress Mar 2013 #7

philosophy liberal_economist Mar 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Mar 2013 #24

bwahahahahahaaa spanone Mar 2013 #25

ok liberal_economist Mar 2013 #30

As an economist, you should enjoy reading this paper Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #42

of course not... samrock Mar 2013 #12

thats not a good arguement liberal_economist Mar 2013 #18

No I earned the money that I pay as SS tax and medicare tax.. samrock Mar 2013 #20

youre right (kindof) liberal_economist Mar 2013 #29

No, thats not it. He is entitled to the returns on 40-50 years of investments. That is a lot of stevenleser Mar 2013 #47

So you are saying that 45 years DiverDave Mar 2013 #89

Entitlement comes off as weak only if you let conservatives sell it that way. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #39

Wrong. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #8

philosophy liberal_economist Mar 2013 #13

It is not like saying that at all. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #31

no liberal_economist Mar 2013 #36

You are correct, they are entitlements timdog44 Mar 2013 #32

another thought liberal_economist Mar 2013 #9

That's such a ridiculous distortion of reality that I can't take you seriously muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #67

I am glad you put this person in place. timdog44 Mar 2013 #73

none of thats true liberal_economist Mar 2013 #80

This is what marks you out as a right wing libertarian with no idea about economics muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #81

Perhaps rather than slapping strangers you could learn what the word means cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #11

I am retired now and receiving my Social Security ENTITLEMENT. RebelOne Mar 2013 #14

They're entitlements... PoliticAverse Mar 2013 #15

Social Security is a MANDATED insurance program. Downwinder Mar 2013 #16

hmm liberal_economist Mar 2013 #21

Do we have a right to other people's property? Sure, in a lot of situations Recursion Mar 2013 #40

thats just question begging. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #44

Of course some people can vote to take away the property rights of others Recursion Mar 2013 #45

i understand that that is what government do. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #48

do you know timdog44 Mar 2013 #63

yes liberal_economist Mar 2013 #65

Like when I buy a house timdog44 Mar 2013 #69

And you address 2 things. timdog44 Mar 2013 #70

Why taxation is not theft Purplehazed Mar 2013 #78

You say you are a "liberal economist," yet you believe that redistribution is theft. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #79

So what you are saying is that property rights trump everything Progressive dog Mar 2013 #60

basically, yes. liberal_economist Mar 2013 #64

You realize that this makes you on the RW side of the Repuplicans Progressive dog Mar 2013 #66

Thank you for saying that. timdog44 Mar 2013 #72

Your property is defined by government laws, and you obtained it with government help muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #68

yes, and we're entitled to those earned benefits. spanone Mar 2013 #17

Entitlement is the correct word. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #22

Entitlements s the term used in the legislation nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #23

The right has done another fine job of framing things to their favor liberal N proud Mar 2013 #27

They are insurance products for which we have been paying premiums. riqster Mar 2013 #28

not really, since insurance is only claimed when you 'need' it. social security, at least, is not. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #35

That's a bit broad IMHO riqster Mar 2013 #46

they may, but need is not the criterion for benefits. an important point since so many on the HiPointDem Mar 2013 #51

I'm not seeing how your two posts preclude the insurance designation riqster Mar 2013 #53

I think it's clear. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #59

No doubt you do. riqster Mar 2013 #62

That's not true. Insurance is also used as an investment vehicle. stevenleser Mar 2013 #50

and the meaning of "entitlement" = something one is entitled to. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #33

Let's just call them "Social Security and Medicare". dawg Mar 2013 #34

The fourth Wednesday of each month an amount to which I am 'entitled' is deposited into my bike man Mar 2013 #38

That second bit is the one a lot of people screw up on Recursion Mar 2013 #41

Many years ago Johnny Carson asked a very elderly guest what was the secret bike man Mar 2013 #43

When you have a Pres. nominee stating that FOOD AND HOUSING are entitlements, well, yay, U.S. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #55

They aren't "earned" benfits. They are PURCHASED benefits BlueStreak Mar 2013 #56

Entitlements ARE "earned benefits" duffyduff Mar 2013 #61

We are entitled to these benefits... 99Forever Mar 2013 #71

Agree! ananda Mar 2013 #74

It has a legal definition union_maid Mar 2013 #75

nobody is entitled to receive SS - earned or not alc Mar 2013 #76

Many of those benefiting pay little to no taxes. Zax2me Mar 2013 #77

liberal_economist is being claimed by FReepers as one of their own Loup Garou Mar 2013 #82

Thanks for bringing us a reference to that website. :sarcasm: MineralMan Mar 2013 #84

Why would you assume that? Loup Garou Mar 2013 #86

OK. As you say. MineralMan Mar 2013 #87

What a bunch of idiots. aptal Mar 2013 #85

"Entitled" means that you have a right to it Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #83