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Deep13

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12. Here's the text.

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:19 PM

Feb 2013

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

Treason is not giving aid or comfort or weakening the country in some abstract way. It has to be an act of war.

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What is treason? [View all] mia Feb 2013 OP

Ralph Nader and Ron Paul graham4anything Feb 2013 #1

Really? Then explain this whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #3

You forgot clinton and obama. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #4

Why? Are you against the Democratic Presidents of the United States? I am not. graham4anything Feb 2013 #5

Are they not just as guilty of shipping jobs oversees? Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #6

So are you against the Democratic Party? graham4anything Feb 2013 #8

When it goes against me. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #10

You are either with the Democratic party or against it. Me, I am for it. graham4anything Feb 2013 #13

Sounds like you have a credibility problem then. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #14

name calling is a sign of losing the argument. graham4anything Feb 2013 #15

I have not named called. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #16

you may be smarter than that guy, but your anti-dem crap stinks up the joint. nt dionysus Feb 2013 #34

Anti Dem? LOL. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #39

I am anti-burn it down radical without realizing what will come the day after. graham4anything Feb 2013 #60

so am i, i apologize for inadvertantly dissing you. dionysus Feb 2013 #63

Interesting. Did you favor or oppose the Republican Bloomberg who ran against... Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #24

I live in New Jersey therefore, I don't vote in NY since before 1990. graham4anything Feb 2013 #29

blind faith, 'my party, right or wrong', kool-aid drinking etc, come to mind Mutatis Mutandis Feb 2013 #59

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #61

the allegiance to The Party mentality creeps me out too. Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #58

If they give comfort to an enemy of U.S. citizens they are just as much to blame. n/t mia Feb 2013 #11

So be it. n/t mia Feb 2013 #7

The south in the Civil War graham4anything Feb 2013 #2

They lost for good reason. n/t mia Feb 2013 #9

Here's the text. Deep13 Feb 2013 #12

Who needs war when you have a criminal cabal or coup. Lint Head Feb 2013 #17

Speaking of cabals... mia Feb 2013 #25

"It has to be an act of war." mia Feb 2013 #18

That's not was war means. Deep13 Feb 2013 #45

Victor vs. victim. mia Feb 2013 #48

You can call it what you want, but it's not what "war" means. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #53

And I call that "Snickerdoodle-Skiddlywamps" -- my term means as much as yours. n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #47

Except that "Snickerdoodle-Skiddlywamps" aren't known to be harmful. n/t mia Feb 2013 #50

They do however, sound delicious. Separation Feb 2013 #54

That text is the ONLY answer in America and the only path to declaring someone as such. TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #21

Thank you. mia Feb 2013 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author TheMastersNemesis Feb 2013 #19

Are you suggesting that President Obama has committed treason? Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #20

Treason? Seems to fit. mia Feb 2013 #26

Anyone who doesn't agree with me treestar Feb 2013 #22

The battlefield has been extended beyond notions of "land". mia Feb 2013 #35

Getting kinda dicey expanding the definition so far... TreasonousBastard Feb 2013 #23

If war is never legally declared, can the Constitutional definition ever be properly applied? Occulus Feb 2013 #28

Wasn't this all explored when we fooled around with the American Taliban... TreasonousBastard Feb 2013 #43

Corporations weren't people in Cicero's time either. mia Feb 2013 #46

No, but the means of production and most wealth was held by... TreasonousBastard Feb 2013 #49

Trade was important then as it is now. mia Feb 2013 #52

Nothing new here. Back in Andrew Jackson's time... TreasonousBastard Feb 2013 #55

Not again! This is so TIRED cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #27

Thank you! I agree with you. n/t aristocles Feb 2013 #31

Offense is welcomed. mia Feb 2013 #38

We're not at war with our trading partners, that's the critical difference here. leveymg Feb 2013 #30

"If you have to, attack the real problem - mia Feb 2013 #42

It's treasonous for Congress to approve the overseas sales of weapons without tracking their ancianita Feb 2013 #32

Ah, having the Supreme Court appoint the loser President! Coyotl Feb 2013 #36

The first of many examples. mia Feb 2013 #51

Ah the treason thread. Phlem Feb 2013 #37

Just googled "Norman Goldman" mia Feb 2013 #41

Actually Phlem Feb 2013 #56

Is Thomas Jefferson a traitor for saying this? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #40

Thomas Jefferson responded to the rights of the of the citizens, mia Feb 2013 #44

Treason is a very specific crime, with a very specific MineralMan Feb 2013 #57

Treasons definition should be very strict in its understanding. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #62