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antigone382

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22. Interesting points, thanks! I think that general time off for family issues should be compensated.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:43 PM
Feb 2013

This should include child bearing, child rearing, and care taking, as well as other things I may not be thinking of. As far as who should do it, I am more in favor of such things being tied to the government than to employment, since our society requires that a certain number of people be unemployed even in the best of times--some of those people are going to be pregnant women. However, I'm not asserting that this would hands-down be the best arrangement.

I certainly think that such time should be available to men as well; there are certain European nations that have paternity leave as well as maternity leave and I think that is a fair and humane choice for both genders. For one thing, I think the pressures of the "ladder of success" are disproportionately placed on men, and that this is a factor in shorter life expectancy.

I think that is a key thing, as well; our current gender arrangements place disproportionate burdens on both men and women, to the detriment of both. I don't think of it as a zero-sum game where men have to give up quality of life in order for women to gain it.

P.S., congratulations and best of luck to your daughter!

shameless kick. n/t antigone382 Feb 2013 #1
Hi, I'm an RN (female) and I'd like to address a couple of points in your post Heddi Feb 2013 #2
Yes, the article mentions that there are important educational distinctions between the two. antigone382 Feb 2013 #3
if the per hour rates are the same roxy1234 Feb 2013 #4
The point is that women face disproportionate barriers. antigone382 Feb 2013 #6
Well the women I work with who are CNA's Heddi Feb 2013 #5
Those are very interesting insights into the world of nursing. antigone382 Feb 2013 #7
A long term fix to our economy... valiberal26 Feb 2013 #8
As an environmentalist, I don't necessarily agree with that. antigone382 Feb 2013 #9
And then when those children grow up, they would also need to have 6 or 7 kids too? How many people uppityperson Feb 2013 #10
Like I said, in an ideal world... valiberal26 Feb 2013 #11
Overpoulation issues aside, I have no desire to subsidize large families. Peter cotton Feb 2013 #12
It is unfortunate to me that the discussion of compensating women for reproduction... antigone382 Feb 2013 #13
That was my point actually. valiberal26 Feb 2013 #17
I don't know that we need to encourage it to the point of six children per family. antigone382 Feb 2013 #18
We already subsidize breeding through the tax code customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #27
ZPG=zero population growth? antigone382 Feb 2013 #31
You are correct customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #33
I believe this conversation is about Texasgal Feb 2013 #16
Post #8 advocated having the government encourage women to have half a dozen children or more. Peter cotton Feb 2013 #23
No not clear Texasgal Feb 2013 #26
Interesting question, but not one I addressed. Peter cotton Feb 2013 #28
The problem I may have is that Texasgal Feb 2013 #29
Why should one stay on topic for the entirety of a thread? Peter cotton Feb 2013 #30
Or we could look at immigration laws gollygee Feb 2013 #14
What! The last thing we need is more overbreeding. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #15
Long term fix... valiberal26 Feb 2013 #19
Two words: "Carrying capacity". Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #21
Only if your model has unlimited resources and opportunity TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #24
I've read your OP and your responses. I believe I understand your points. maggiesfarmer Feb 2013 #20
Interesting points, thanks! I think that general time off for family issues should be compensated. antigone382 Feb 2013 #22
thanks for picking up the humble brag about my daughter, maggiesfarmer Feb 2013 #25
It sounds like you have a good reason to be proud. antigone382 Feb 2013 #32
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