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In reply to the discussion: So, what should replace the F-35? [View all]sir pball
(4,726 posts)64. From the get-go maybe
That's what I would have rather seen done originally, at least with the 35 (the 22 development goes back to the 80s, Cold War Mania!) but at this point, especially with the 22, I'd rather have something to show for the hundreds of billions already sunk as well as questioning the development costs of upgrading the teen series with advanced electronics and supermanuverability. Scrap the VTOL, or let the UK pay for it since we don't really need it, and get the basic aircraft up - or even better and vastly cheaper, put a tail hook on the 22 and restart production, at least that's a developmentally complete project.
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Conservatives claim that leaving the money with the public creates more growth and jobs
Kolesar
Feb 2013
#2
Nothing. The JSF is not the problem, it is a symptom. Few people can really grasp just how
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#5
Buying overpriced hardware built by incompetent numbnuts won't help fix that problem.
bemildred
Feb 2013
#51
If you can get out of the absurd mindset that has been fostered, you would also consider
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#52
The next gen of air superiority and ground attack will be remotely piloted vehicles.
leveymg
Feb 2013
#6
Actually, human lag time is worse. Pilots take longer than automonous drones in decision-making
Ikonoklast
Feb 2013
#56
How would the Su-30 and Mig-29 do against the Patriot missile -- which is an autonomous drone?
FarCenter
Feb 2013
#61
The patriot is not a drone. A drone is a weapons platform, not a weapon. A patriot is a weapon. nt
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#74
A drone is any unmanned vehicle under its own guidance and optionally remote guidance
FarCenter
Feb 2013
#76
I disagree. Even with the rapid communication links we have now, a pilot is quicker.
Gorp
Feb 2013
#46
The drones will rapidly become autonomous -- there is no need for a pilot on the ground
FarCenter
Feb 2013
#55
I dont know how rapidly we will be able to build the following AI into a drone...
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#58
And that is easier said than done in terms of identifying what is an enemy target at that range.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#71
That's a good point. Even in chess there are a limited amount of possible moves.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#73
And that's before the subjectives like rules of engagement and other shades of gray
Posteritatis
Feb 2013
#75
Yeah, that is another reason not to implement artificially intelligent killing machines...
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#70
Reforestation would sequester the CO2 as would algae growth from dumping iron powder into the sea
Kolesar
Feb 2013
#25
Yes, it is probably too late and too costly to salvage the Air Force and Navy versions
FarCenter
Feb 2013
#24
Well said, but with one minor correction. For the cost of the F-35, it would be WAY more than 140K.
Gorp
Feb 2013
#47
As an act of patriotism I'll offer my '93 Toyota pickup and put on fresh duct tape.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2013
#34
More F-15s. They're proven, highly effective, reliable, and relatively inexpensive.
Gorp
Feb 2013
#41