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In reply to the discussion: Gun deaths vs. gun laws [View all]

Jeff In Milwaukee

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29. I hear what you're saying....
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:31 PM
Feb 2013

Better social services and better education are key factors in reducing violence of all types, including both homicide and suicide by firearm. Strong gun laws play a role, but not the ONLY role and possibly not even the DEFINING role.

Gun deaths vs. gun laws [View all] BainsBane Feb 2013 OP
Generally, it seems that stricter gun laws can be correlated with fewer deaths per capita. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1
well, it shows a correlation BainsBane Feb 2013 #2
I'd argue that the causal relationship between stricter gun laws and fewer deaths cannot be made. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #4
the key factor is numbers of guns BainsBane Feb 2013 #6
I don't see "number of guns" listed as one of the data points. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #8
here is chart BainsBane Feb 2013 #10
Interesting. krispos42 Feb 2013 #17
why multiple homicide rates? BainsBane Feb 2013 #18
I was curious to see if multiple victim homicides were affected by... krispos42 Feb 2013 #19
Did you happen to see the Nova episode BainsBane Feb 2013 #25
Thom Hartmann calls testosterone something like... krispos42 Feb 2013 #33
Huge drop-off in 1997 when the first post Roe v. Wade cohort turned 14 Recursion Feb 2013 #22
a criminologist told me BainsBane Feb 2013 #27
I hear what you're saying.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #29
actually BainsBane Feb 2013 #34
Oh dear... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #35
he should probably clarify BainsBane Feb 2013 #36
And the non-gun-death rate? krispos42 Feb 2013 #9
sure, of course that's an important point BainsBane Feb 2013 #12
Generally speaking, there should be a correlation between gun ownership and gun-related death krispos42 Feb 2013 #16
The linear regression is a bad fit, though Recursion Feb 2013 #23
May I send you a friendly PM? nt pintobean Feb 2013 #3
no, you may not BainsBane Feb 2013 #5
You're welcome to post it pintobean Feb 2013 #7
okay BainsBane Feb 2013 #11
You're welcome. pintobean Feb 2013 #32
Keeping secrets from DU? JVS Feb 2013 #13
Two observations: Loudly Feb 2013 #14
the question of how they rate gun laws BainsBane Feb 2013 #15
Yeah, that was my big question Recursion Feb 2013 #21
No, I'm afraid not BainsBane Feb 2013 #24
the chart lists the Daily Beast as a source BainsBane Feb 2013 #26
Interesting. I'm not convinced you can assign "strength of gun laws" a single number Recursion Feb 2013 #20
Message auto-removed 2k05gt Feb 2013 #28
don't pretend you care about facts BainsBane Feb 2013 #30
38,000 people die from guns every year BainsBane Feb 2013 #31
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