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Veri1138

(61 posts)
16. ACA will be excepted by many Democrats...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:23 AM
Feb 2013

...because it is simply more than they have now. Despite the obvious flaws in ACA, they will accept it and the explanation of President Obama's 11th-dimensional chess playing that will result in single-payer in the future (sure, in the future when you are on the verge of open rebellion).

14 of 18 members, including those that President Obama appointed, of the Cat Food Commission are in favor cutting Social Security, chained-CPI, and raising the retirement age. The structure of the Cat Food Commission was convenient in that it allowed the stacking of deficit hawks-"Cat Food for Seniors" onto the Catfood Commission.

Nothing says solidarity with Republicans in cutting Social Security like President Obama's commitment to appointing people who want to cut Social Security. What Democrats have to worry about is that Congress, their Congress, passed ACA - a rehash of Heritage Foundation and Republican ideas from 1996 in response to HillaryCare. Oops.

How far will Democrats in Congress go in implementing Republicans and President Obama's Social Security benefits cuts depends on Congressional Critter Democrats, who already passed a Republican health care plan. So far, the rhetoric indicates, "not very far". Then again, we've been down that road before.

Now, where did Democrats put our single-payer?

CORRECT Skittles Feb 2013 #1
ACA will be excepted by many Democrats... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #16
settling for mediocre and calling it progress seems to be a theme Skittles Feb 2013 #36
Republicans would not cut it because... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #43
You know none of these privileged fatcats ever goes to bed hungry MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #2
"So elect progressive candidates!" HOW??? HughBeaumont Feb 2013 #3
are you talking to me specifically? cause i didn't say 'elect progressive candidates" & i don't HiPointDem Feb 2013 #4
Oh sorry, no; it's just a general thing people tend to say in threads like these. HughBeaumont Feb 2013 #17
true, that. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #24
If you run for Congress, you generally don't want to piss off the wealthiest/powerful constituents. Selatius Feb 2013 #7
That is why we have to change our economic system fasttense Feb 2013 #11
The more money that makes it's way to the top, the worse it's going to get. HughBeaumont Feb 2013 #21
The ugly truth? Veri1138 Feb 2013 #18
How does cutting Social Security "Fix the Debt?" It has never contributed one penny to the debt. tclambert Feb 2013 #5
It depends how you look at it madville Feb 2013 #6
The Treasury would simply monetize those bonds, the way I understand it. Selatius Feb 2013 #9
If nothing is done it will snowball madville Feb 2013 #13
"in turn pays interest on it back to Social Security if it needs it" -- no, it pays interest HiPointDem Feb 2013 #27
It's pretty simple madville Feb 2013 #31
it's pretty simple. but that's not how it works. the Trust Fund gets REGULAR interest payments HiPointDem Feb 2013 #32
It is paid out only when it's needed madville Feb 2013 #33
you said: "it in turn pays interest on it back to Social Security if it needs it" HiPointDem Feb 2013 #34
Which is correct madville Feb 2013 #37
The TF is credited whether it's 'needed' or not, whether they 'pay out' or not. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #42
Well, another scenario... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #20
George Carlin was right....... lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #8
Which is exactly why I loathe Rendell. Skidmore Feb 2013 #10
and considering ed rendell DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #38
Slashing SS is the #1 goal of the 1%... because their taxes will go up big time otherwise. reformist2 Feb 2013 #12
Social Security represents... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #22
K&R forestpath Feb 2013 #14
Notice mtasselin Feb 2013 #15
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2013 #19
rec n/t Autumn Feb 2013 #23
K&R for a truth nobody can afford to deny anymore. nt woo me with science Feb 2013 #25
The one good thing about having Republicans in charge of the government Yavin4 Feb 2013 #26
true, that. it was funny how that just went away as an issue under the reign of bush. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #28
Fix the Debt: privatize the shit out of everything so the billionaires don't have to pay taxes. Initech Feb 2013 #29
Yeah, "bipartisan" in the same sense as a gang rape is "bipartisan". Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #30
Good one! Cleita Feb 2013 #35
K&R hay rick Feb 2013 #39
Flip the Debt octoberlib Feb 2013 #40
kick limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #41
I am officially off the Villaraigosa for Governor bandwagon KamaAina Feb 2013 #44
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