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patrice

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19. I forget what the breakdown is but those Islamic religious tribes in the region are living in at
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:45 AM
Feb 2013

least 3 different countries, Iran, Iraq, & Saudi Arabia, and their ties as religious factions are stronger than their national ties, since those national borders were drawn by the British after WWI. So the smallest but most radical fundamentalist contingent, of the Shia, I believe, are living in Saudi Arabia, where they are a pain in the ass to the royal family, because being religious fundamentalist they criticize the hell out of the religiously corrupt house of Saud in the press and the royals can't do much about it because its religious matters. The War on Iraq united those transnational factions against us, got the radical off of the house of Saud's back, for a while anyway, and gave the Sauds plenty of opportunities to look like the sympathetic neighbor, thus pressuring Iran to improve its own status by sabre rattling at Israel.

Some of that is in (DU's and Truthout's) William River's Pitt's book War on Iraq and some of it Seymour Hersh published in 2003 or '04.

It was clear at the time, to anyone who paid attention, elleng Feb 2013 #1
Yes. Lugnut Feb 2013 #3
Q: Why didn't Ted Koppel mention the 1953 US/UK Iran coup d'etat even once in 444 days? green for victory Feb 2013 #2
I recently found this guest opinion article Koppel wrote for the Wash. Post in 2011. alp227 Feb 2013 #6
Sowell is a lying cheap labor liar RobertEarl Feb 2013 #4
he doesn't do it cause he's dumb and needs education. he does it because he's a paid shill. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #9
He needs an education RobertEarl Feb 2013 #10
whatever else sowell is, he didn't come from privilege. at least judging from his bio, he's HiPointDem Feb 2013 #12
Sowell is a lying piece of ..(R$^^&(*% RobertEarl Feb 2013 #13
it's not concern; i just don't think he's in need of, or susceptible to, 'education'. i thought HiPointDem Feb 2013 #18
He doesn't need to be educated? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #21
Of course, it wasn't a coincidence. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #5
Reagan's boys eventually started selling the Iranians weapons during the Iran-Contra affair. Selatius Feb 2013 #7
That's referred to as the October Surprise, but there was another one before this one and it patrice Feb 2013 #8
And another one RobertEarl Feb 2013 #11
Which set the stage for 9/11 and the War on Iraq, to grab the oil and to act as a proxy attracting patrice Feb 2013 #15
I forget what the breakdown is but those Islamic religious tribes in the region are living in at patrice Feb 2013 #19
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, in my last series of posts to you: the KOCH bros were in the IRAN patrice Feb 2013 #24
He plays it whenever discussing Iran/Contra or 1980. alp227 Feb 2013 #14
Of course it waasn't WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2013 #16
Interesting also how conservatives jump to blame Carter for the rescue attempt's failure... pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #17
Has everyone forgotten Iran - Contra? Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #20
Yeah RobertEarl Feb 2013 #22
No, this is the October Surprise. sofa king Feb 2013 #23
Thanks very much for reminding us!! about Reagan SUBVERTING THE CONSTITUTION patrice Feb 2013 #26
See! Cons aren't dumb or stupid, just incredibly SLooooooOW. Festivito Feb 2013 #25
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