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Gun ownership vs. gun deaths, by state [View all] michigandem58 Feb 2013 OP
Correlation will be ignored and refuted with anecdotal excuses and stories. Sheepshank Feb 2013 #1
I can't figure out where Washington state falls, appears to be missing its dot. freshwest Feb 2013 #2
It's there. enlightenment Feb 2013 #29
I hate those kind of graphs. Percentages not that great for WA, although freshwest Feb 2013 #31
over what period of time? cali Feb 2013 #3
Are those rates increasing or decreasing? nt hack89 Feb 2013 #4
Include suicides? Crepuscular Feb 2013 #5
Are people who commit suicide any less dead? Major Nikon Feb 2013 #7
Suicides are not generally a danger to other people. FarCenter Feb 2013 #8
Let's hope you never get depressed when there's a gun handy. nt valerief Feb 2013 #11
Suicides inflict great damage on individuals and society No Vested Interest Feb 2013 #14
With youth- one suicide is sometimes followed by others loyalsister Feb 2013 #36
You Think, Sir, There Are No Consequences To Others Owing To Suicide? The Magistrate Feb 2013 #15
Suicides do not increase one's risk of having death or injury inflicted on them by someone else FarCenter Feb 2013 #25
That Is a Very Narrow View Of Risk, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2013 #30
A failure to properly categorize and evaluate risks leads to bad policy FarCenter Feb 2013 #37
Suicide Is A Major Risk Of Gun Ownership, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2013 #41
they still count as gun deaths treestar Feb 2013 #18
yea, fuck YOUR family & end it................ kooljerk666 Feb 2013 #21
This post was alerted on. By a vote of 3/3 it is allowed to stand. ohiosmith Feb 2013 #54
suicides Crepuscular Feb 2013 #56
I'm not sure what purposes that would serve other than obfuscation Major Nikon Feb 2013 #59
Guns kill better than pills Loudestlib Feb 2013 #17
that is irrelevant - as you are only counting gun related deaths in the first place. But srican69 Feb 2013 #22
removing suicide data will not invalidate the correlation ... let me explain srican69 Feb 2013 #20
I don't think a constant 70% ratio is correct FarCenter Feb 2013 #32
I do not. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #33
Wyoming and Montana are not hotbeds of anything. EOTE Feb 2013 #35
Distance to medical help Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #45
Ahh, so the states with loads of guns ONLY have higher rates of gun deaths... EOTE Feb 2013 #46
No, was referencing those two states only Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #48
Again, there are plenty of high gun violence states EOTE Feb 2013 #58
So, now Wyoming and Montana has morphed into Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #61
So suicides don't count? Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #49
OK, upon further research, the MJ chart isn't really useful cali Feb 2013 #6
In 2010 there were 7 murders in Vermont. Only 2 of those murders were committed with guns. cali Feb 2013 #9
Good attempt at obfuscation. baldguy Feb 2013 #26
that doesn't even make any sense, sweetie. cali Feb 2013 #42
I'm sure those folks who died accidentally from guns have so much relief that they weren't murdered. EOTE Feb 2013 #47
That's one datapoint. DanTex Feb 2013 #55
So relatively speaking, Minnesota has responsible gun users treestar Feb 2013 #10
30% ownership in Nevada seems like a helluva lot of gun owners to me! valerief Feb 2013 #12
I was thinking more along the lines of correlation treestar Feb 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Feb 2013 #27
Thanks. I'm using Friday brains today. valerief Feb 2013 #53
You're not doing the math right. adieu Feb 2013 #38
can you provide a link to the article? DeadEyeDyck Feb 2013 #13
more gun ownership means more gun deaths right? samsingh Feb 2013 #19
The standard deviation seems to be wider than the underlying regression Recursion Feb 2013 #23
You're over-reading the graph adieu Feb 2013 #40
Most all the the red states are above the trend line Flagrante Feb 2013 #24
That's a hell of an interesting observation michigandem58 Feb 2013 #51
The right hand side of the chart is a powerful argument for mental health reform hack89 Feb 2013 #28
Murder rated have been declining, while suicide rates have been increasing FarCenter Feb 2013 #39
Exactly Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #50
gun ownership melm00se Feb 2013 #34
Thank you for posting this! It shows clearly the correlation of gun deaths and gun ownership. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #43
Be interesting to see each state by city/county. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #44
Indeed markgee Feb 2013 #52
Message auto-removed year of the cat Feb 2013 #57
Seems to be a distinct correlation between gun deaths per capital and red states, but indepat Feb 2013 #60
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