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ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
115. Is there no middle ground in your world?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 02:05 PM
Feb 2013

He's either a hero or villain? But to answer your question, I don't get worked up over speculation and assumptions. I get worked up by actual results. Cheney's results were 2 illegal wars, which then meant that everything he did prior was viewed in an entirely new light.

Here's my stance on the pipeline: I'm neutral. I see hypocrisy in car driving protesters who imply that only third world countries should be exposed to the dangers and pollution involved in oil extraction. Nobody seems to give a damn about the huge oil spills off the coast of Africa and/or S. America. Just don't let it happen in the US. I have a problem with that type of thinking. That being said, we should be moving away from oil and not digging in deeper... but in the meantime, millions of cars still need oil to run... So that's why my overall stance is neutral on the whole thing.

I don't see anything wrong with doing business while golfing lunatica Feb 2013 #1
Ha-ha-ha! joeybee12 Feb 2013 #12
I know you're trying to insult me, but you missed your mark lunatica Feb 2013 #99
Sweetie, you keep digging your hole deeper...much business is done joeybee12 Feb 2013 #104
Um, you have no idea what they talked about do you? So YOU are actually making shit up. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #114
You're obviously projecting. lunatica Feb 2013 #116
Just plain old mean ... Trajan Feb 2013 #130
STOP PICKING ON PRESIDENT OBAMA. Hotler Feb 2013 #131
I agree. You can have very frank and private conversations on a golf course. cbayer Feb 2013 #16
HA HA!! I love it. !! pangaia Feb 2013 #57
Of course you don't. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #64
Do you know me? lunatica Feb 2013 #100
I have business dealings everyday with people who I don't agree with on much. So what? nt bluestate10 Feb 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #3
Obama has to talk to them. What good does it do to be adversarial? Avalux Feb 2013 #4
What's an example of something you think he might have said to them during the golf? limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #58
BP joeybee12 Feb 2013 #107
so what? Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #5
This isn't about his privacy issue. It's about his palling around with oil men while limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #59
Look. If you want to fuck somebody up, you have to actually meet them. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #6
You can't kiss an ass unless you get close to it. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #60
You did, you fixed it! NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #89
He is the President of all the people and all points of view. No big deal..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #7
I did notice Michael Moore and ... GeorgeGist Feb 2013 #23
+1 progressoid Feb 2013 #43
It is a big deal. It's offensive. Dance with who brung ya. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #63
I agree...Obama who is usually so "careful" really F'd up on this one... KoKo Feb 2013 #78
When is he going to be the President of those protesters then? TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #110
The responses here would be MUCH different if a Repub Prez had done this. n/t magellan Feb 2013 #8
When a republican president does it, it's not even news. n/t Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #18
Since repukes deny climate change even exists, Zoeisright Feb 2013 #51
Since Repubs deny climate change exists magellan Feb 2013 #102
Ya think? UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #62
I fear you are absolutely right about that. n/t Laelth Feb 2013 #101
The NEVER ENDING apologist propaganda. Getting real tiresome at this point. I wonder... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2013 #108
My favorite is that he invited them so he could discuss climate change with them. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #109
The other side already attacks the President for golfing... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #9
He's not being attacked for golfing... Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #25
The President was also playing golf grntuscarora Feb 2013 #10
interesting Enrique Feb 2013 #21
No, the golf trip was planned around Presidents' Day/weekend. babylonsister Feb 2013 #30
If I knew 40,000 of the people that voted for me grntuscarora Feb 2013 #49
+1 limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #65
He's probably breaking the bad news that Keystone XL will be delayed a couple more months. progressoid Feb 2013 #11
He could have been giving them good news. Autumn Feb 2013 #31
Wow...the apologist comments here are amazing... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #13
Because they don't agree with you? nt babylonsister Feb 2013 #32
And when Dick CHeney had that energy meeting we know joeybee12 Feb 2013 #34
Oh please; he played golf with them. Why are you babylonsister Feb 2013 #36
Stop making shit up! Honestly...that's why women are so angry about exclusive golf joeybee12 Feb 2013 #105
LOL! Zoeisright Feb 2013 #52
Amazing, you know exactly what happened and you tell me to grow up... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #103
I agree with you Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #48
President Obama has a track record of standing up to the... Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #14
...fucking retarded? hay rick Feb 2013 #50
Of course, he's their President too. Autumn Feb 2013 #17
Correction: he's their president Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #19
So be their president the day AFTER the rally. lbrtbell Feb 2013 #22
I can't argue with that. Autumn Feb 2013 #24
Protesters can't get anywhere near him now thanks to HR347 Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #38
Funny, that's what Fox News' Judge Andrew Napolitano says in this video: DevonRex Feb 2013 #54
Just a tweak here and there. And before you know it Autumn Feb 2013 #81
Corporate Profits Have Grown By 171 Percent Under Obama -- Highest Rate Since 1900 Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #20
The 1% is loving it limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #69
Pure coincidence, you left-wing loony Obama h8r! Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #72
This is an example of money talking. Selatius Feb 2013 #26
It sure looks that way. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author DearHeart Feb 2013 #27
Then how did we get the above picture of Obama golfing with the oil giants? blue neen Feb 2013 #28
How clever you are to point that out DearHeart Feb 2013 #37
I have no proof of what the President was wearing on Sunday, blue neen Feb 2013 #42
fwiw, it's an old picture. nt babylonsister Feb 2013 #46
Yep. blue neen Feb 2013 #47
instead of protesting, the environmentalists should be working on their golf game Enrique Feb 2013 #29
"Most of his golf is business related" joeybee12 Feb 2013 #35
Common practice many places to do deals at the golf courses. glinda Feb 2013 #41
Putt putt? limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #71
President Obama is a politician first and foremost. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #33
Golly gee and schazam! sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #39
Yeah. Obama was on vacation. Deal with it. DevonRex Feb 2013 #40
I alerted on this. I don't really want an ongoing personal dialog with you. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #73
"I alerted on this." Scurrilous Feb 2013 #79
They voted to leave it. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #119
could you post the alert results in Meta? snooper2 Feb 2013 #92
Curious pattern there, eh?...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #122
One DevonRex Feb 2013 #129
Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #44
Yet another Obama-hater thread on DU. Shocker. No, really! nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #45
It's not like he's making it hard. Fuddnik Feb 2013 #53
It was just a matter of time ... Summer Hathaway Feb 2013 #56
I'm sorry that you perceive it that way. I don't hate Obama, but I am offended by his choice of golf limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #74
Tiger Woods is ranked the 2nd best golfer in the world ( we know he is the best) why add known Pisces Feb 2013 #55
OMG, he played golf with a known philanderer????? The article says that, too? ROFL!!!!!!! DevonRex Feb 2013 #61
Whatever. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #75
+1 CheapShotArtist Feb 2013 #95
some folks like to project the worse on the President spanone Feb 2013 #66
Apparently the call went out on the BOG PMWire. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #67
Apparently you don't like it when people disagree with you. Neither does the OP. DevonRex Feb 2013 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #82
Funny, but you're the one complaining about people having their say. Implying nefarious things. DevonRex Feb 2013 #84
I'm not complaining about anything, your group are the ones getting their panties all twisted over Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #85
What group? I am an individual. You are seriously mistaken if you think there are more of me. nt DevonRex Feb 2013 #86
LOL! You are aware that your profile is readily available, aren't you? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #87
Why, yes. And? Is it bad? nt DevonRex Feb 2013 #88
Bad? That's a matter of opinion. It does clearly show where you, and the rest, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #90
Oh dear. You seem upset. It's not good for you, you know. nt DevonRex Feb 2013 #93
I know history, so I'm not upset at all. You will inevitably experience the consequences of your Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #112
Yeah, didn't think you'd have one. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #113
What? We're all still waiting for some explanation of this strange coincidence... n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #117
Apparently the call went out to the "Rec the cheap shot Anti-Obama thread" crew too... SidDithers Feb 2013 #125
Still waiting for one of you to actually address the issue. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #126
Post #67 was addressing the issue?... SidDithers Feb 2013 #127
Not at all, I have absolutely no expectations from any of the faithful beyond mild amusement Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #128
That figures, since those are the only kind of people he pays attention to. forestpath Feb 2013 #68
Golfers are the only people Obama pays attention to? Scurrilous Feb 2013 #80
I'm sure those oil giants appreciate your defense. forestpath Feb 2013 #83
I like that picture. Appears to be a real moment. egduj Feb 2013 #76
He also wears pants. JUST LIKE CHENEY!!! NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #91
This is really petty, IMO ecstatic Feb 2013 #94
No, it's not petty. alarimer Feb 2013 #98
+1... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #106
Is there no middle ground in your world? ecstatic Feb 2013 #115
OH NOES. Hekate Feb 2013 #97
The apologists are incoherent: "So what? He's their president too!" Romulox Feb 2013 #111
Keep trying...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #120
Keep trying what? limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #121
So transparent... SidDithers Feb 2013 #123
What's transparent? limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #124
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