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sinkingfeeling

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44. Well, maybe he could have stabbed her to death through a locked door? Of course, having a
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:45 AM
Feb 2013

gun immediately at hand is the reason people get killed during arguments.

This whole gun control debate reminds me of Freshman year Logic class livetohike Feb 2013 #1
Guns make everyone safe. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #2
Yep, sure worked out well for her, didn't it? calimary Feb 2013 #67
Maybe it wasn't the gun. Maybe it was Pistorious. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #3
Parse each word I wrote. Carefully. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #6
I did and it makes no sense. You can't seriously suggest she would be alive if the gun was not prese Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #10
You can't possibly be suggesting... dairydog91 Feb 2013 #18
If he did not have his prosthetic legs on... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #27
Well remind me to only date bi-lateral amputees and make sure to hide his prosthetics Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #36
Come on... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #42
Violence is violence is violence. I wouldn't want to be attacked by gun, bat or bare hand. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #46
Did you read the part... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #70
No, it isn't. atufal Feb 2013 #82
I wish I could share in the salient humor you offer. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #33
As that particular fictional bullet point applies towards everyone rather than simply women LanternWaste Feb 2013 #50
She was locked in the bathroom. He couldn't have gotten to her without a gun. SharonAnn Feb 2013 #48
And the gun + dark was a tempting cover story.... bettyellen Feb 2013 #54
Except he DID get to her -- he beat the door in obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #69
I think he did after he shot... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #99
She had to come out sometime Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #129
In that situation every second matters treestar Feb 2013 #89
Not that I believe the boyfriend but.... Walk away Feb 2013 #4
I am sure the number of accidental shooting death are a not a... iandhr Feb 2013 #37
I wish someone would do some statistical research on that. Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #51
The NRA lobby has made sure the CDC do no such research for years now. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #56
About 600 accidental gun deaths per year. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #104
Excellent point. Reminds me of an incident. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #97
He would have used his hands or the cricket bat obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #5
Conjecture. Unlike the OP, which is an undeniable fact. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #7
Nope, same thing as your OP obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #9
hmm. not even close. much more conjecture and opinion than fact cali Feb 2013 #16
I agree. HappyMe Feb 2013 #8
He could have killed her with the bat n2doc Feb 2013 #14
To paraphrase someone downthread obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #28
that's not true either. guns do make it easier to kill cali Feb 2013 #79
He was the bullet in the chamber obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #115
If the bat worked then why did she scream out between shots... Walk away Feb 2013 #117
If not for the bullet in the gun. graham4anything Feb 2013 #11
He was the bullet in the chamber obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #29
The gun/bullet is responsible. Clint Eastwood in Gran Tarino showed why graham4anything Feb 2013 #31
Right, and Oscar was the bullet obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #32
The gun fired. Bullets, NOT in the constitution, should all be banned. graham4anything Feb 2013 #47
You do realize sarisataka Feb 2013 #57
"Arms" has always been interpreted to include ammunition hack89 Feb 2013 #59
This was in South Africa obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #66
The Supreme Court says you're wrong. Bake Feb 2013 #85
Chief Justice Obama will in a few years render quite a different opinion. graham4anything Feb 2013 #91
Even Democrats won't do it. Bake Feb 2013 #94
90% of the public used to smoke. 90% of the public now doesn't smoke. graham4anything Feb 2013 #95
It's actually more like 80% don't smoke. Bake Feb 2013 #98
Ammunition is a part of an arms and is covered by 2A. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #105
The 2nd did not apply to the streets, but to a cannon in a private home. graham4anything Feb 2013 #109
You got a loooong wait coming. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #110
neither does a gun that isn't fired. no clicked finger and the gun is just an object. cali Feb 2013 #38
yes obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #40
This thread took a LOT longer than I thought. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #12
Julius Caesar called. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #106
et tu Brute? n/t cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #116
Good thing OJ didn't have a gun. NoPasaran Feb 2013 #13
Fortunately he didn't, so Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman are still alive. dairydog91 Feb 2013 #20
+1 obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #22
Too bad the terrorist, Dorner,the corrupt ex-cop had a gun. OJ was found 100% innocent. graham4anything Feb 2013 #52
He was found Not Guilty sarisataka Feb 2013 #60
Of course OJ was guilty -- he got away with domestic murder obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #68
Civil cases have no basis in a conversation of a criminal trial. graham4anything Feb 2013 #87
You contradict yourself. First you say it's undeniable fact that she would not be dead, cali Feb 2013 #15
I loved the "your conjecture is conjecture" meme that was being born in this thread Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #21
The contradictory title and body show a desire for an argument. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #23
Maybe not. It looks like the op has left his thread cali Feb 2013 #34
. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #49
brilliant response to my points, stinky! cali Feb 2013 #76
That wasn't a reposnse to your points Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #88
Incorrect. If it was murder, he'd have found a way. JVS Feb 2013 #17
Exactly -- you stated it better than I did upstairs obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #24
Don't play coy and write a different post from what your title clearly states. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #19
And the cricket bat he beat her with? He was going to kill her one way or another. This isn't .... marble falls Feb 2013 #25
Another thing to think about. If she'd only been armed in the bathroom... Bucky Feb 2013 #26
He was the bullet in the chamber obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #30
"Undeniable Fact". If Oscar Pistorius had not been there, she would not be dead. nt jmg257 Feb 2013 #35
Bingo obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #39
There remains a non-zero probability that someone else would have killed her. JVS Feb 2013 #113
I think the only thing that is certain pipi_k Feb 2013 #41
I wouldn't say it's a fact, but it's likely. DanTex Feb 2013 #43
Well, maybe he could have stabbed her to death through a locked door? Of course, having a sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #44
He broke the door down. Abusive men kill women in other ways cali Feb 2013 #45
No, just that its a lot easier with a gun. Therefore, bettyellen Feb 2013 #55
Your post contradicts itself OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #53
Your last line is . . . . Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #58
yet another non-response to the claims you cali Feb 2013 #77
You do realize he bashed her head in too B2G Feb 2013 #61
he could've used lawn furniture... KG Feb 2013 #62
You assume the shooting was accidental. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #63
My handguns are in a fire safe (family heirlooms) and I have no ammo for them. Gorp Feb 2013 #64
Your edit is a pretty lame backpedal. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #65
So? What conclusion can we draw from that? FBaggins Feb 2013 #71
A murderer will use whatever weapon or means available pediatricmedic Feb 2013 #74
Yes this is definitely a case of domestic violence. Kalidurga Feb 2013 #72
I'm sick of people claiming it is their right! ybbor Feb 2013 #73
Uh, this was South Africa. B2G Feb 2013 #75
What's your point? ybbor Feb 2013 #80
What right are you being deprived of exactly? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #93
Seems to me the only way she would be alive is if she had shot him first. dkf Feb 2013 #78
So obviously, let's ban ALL handguns. Hell, ban ALL guns, period. Bake Feb 2013 #81
Right. Every fucking one of them. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #83
And then what do we do about the deaths where the victim could not defend him/herself? Bake Feb 2013 #84
Oh stop it. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #86
a gun never saved anybody who couldn't have saved oneself using ones wits to do the same graham4anything Feb 2013 #111
Pretty absolute statement sarisataka Feb 2013 #118
Really? You know this for an actual fact, or are you just making shit up (again)? Bake Feb 2013 #120
So, those controllers who say "No one wants to take your guns" are wrong? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #112
+1 obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #114
I've posed this rhetorical question in some form 3 times today. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #119
Yeah, but we knew that already. Bake Feb 2013 #121
Interesting that so many are jumping all over your statement. MineralMan Feb 2013 #90
"She'd almost certainly still be alive." See now, that is a ridiculous statement based on nothing. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #92
It is far more difficult to kill someone MineralMan Feb 2013 #96
Probably because the statement in the headline is nonsense. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #100
Whatever you say, Lizzie. MineralMan Feb 2013 #101
No worries. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #122
whoa there. I jumped all over the contradictions in the op cali Feb 2013 #103
As with the OP, I'm with you up to the last line OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #108
These two sentences are not consistent. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #102
Refer to Post #53 OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #107
"I am really at a loss to understand the shitty-toned replies to my OP" - You attacked the precious apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #123
I completely disagree FreeJoe Feb 2013 #124
First of all, why would an intruder be locked in your bathroom? smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #125
The statistics are all on your side Warpy Feb 2013 #126
+1. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #127
Solution - Outlaw Private Gun Ownership - Stiff Punitive Measures For Violators cantbeserious Feb 2013 #128
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